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Topic: Haleigh Marie Cummings #35 4/22/10 - 5/04/10 (Read 348903 times)
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Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #35 4/22/10 -
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 24, 2010, 09:22:06 AM
Very interesting thanks Grama
wow, I agree, great article and analysis.
Yesterday, I saw the jail house recording with Misty speaking to Hank Sr. And in that tape Misty has internalized the outcome. If you watch this again you will see it clearly. Misty has moved on. Sure, she's making it hard to conclude the case, but to me it's rather obvious that she killed Haleigh. Years ago, I may not have believed that a young girl could pull this off, but then there was Susan Smith and of course, Casey Anthony. So, it's easy to see that a young girl can kill a child.
In that tape she and Hank are talking about why she didn't listen to Hank and now she in this big mess. She then says and I paraphrase - 'but why do they have to screw up my / our lives'. She does her crying routine. And I just rolled my eyes.
To me, that was a very very powerful admission. In a sense- look, what's done is done and why do I have to suffer over all this.
This is clearly someone who has never been held to any responsible for any of her actions. She cries and gets whiny and gets her way - and she did it to Hank in the jail house video. She did it to Ron when she came back from the sex / drug binge. This is how she operates. And she thinks that a few fake tears and her whiny little voice is going to get her out of killing a child.
One question I have never seen mentioned and if it has been - please forgive me, but while Misty was on her sex / drug binge - who watched the children? Wasn't Ron working a few of those days at a minimum?
Good morning all -
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Good morning, I also wondered who was watching the kids while Misty was on her three day binge. I don't know if Ron worked the weekends, but if he didn't I just assumed he did.
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Good morning, I also wondered who was watching the kids while Misty was on her three day binge. I don't know if Ron worked the weekends, but if he didn't I just assumed he did.
I'm sure it's been discussed. It would have been a huge question at some point. Oh and I think I meant while Ron was working NIGHTS, not days.
I wonder why the GGMS didn't mention this? or did she? Or did someone else admit to the care of the kids? I have no idea.
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Quote from: Rob on April 24, 2010, 09:39:08 AM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 24, 2010, 09:22:06 AM
Very interesting thanks Grama
wow, I agree, great article and analysis.
Yesterday, I saw the jail house recording with Misty speaking to Hank Sr. And in that tape Misty has internalized the outcome. If you watch this again you will see it clearly. Misty has moved on. Sure, she's making it hard to conclude the case, but to me it's rather obvious that she killed Haleigh. Years ago, I may not have believed that a young girl could pull this off, but then there was Susan Smith and of course, Casey Anthony. So, it's easy to see that a young girl can kill a child.
In that tape she and Hank are talking about why she didn't listen to Hank and now she in this big mess. She then says and I paraphrase - 'but why do they have to screw up my / our lives'. She does her crying routine. And I just rolled my eyes.
To me, that was a very very powerful admission. In a sense- look, what's done is done and why do I have to suffer over all this.
This is clearly someone who has never been held to any responsible for any of her actions. She cries and gets whiny and gets her way - and she did it to Hank in the jail house video. She did it to Ron when she came back from the sex / drug binge. This is how she operates. And she thinks that a few fake tears and her whiny little voice is going to get her out of killing a child.
One question I have never seen mentioned and if it has been - please forgive me, but while Misty was on her sex / drug binge - who watched the children? Wasn't Ron working a few of those days at a minimum?
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Hi Sunny
Good Morning Rob!! Every morning I come here to read, get caught up and hopefully get some clarity.........hasn't happened yet! I so admire those of you that keep trying to make some sense of the fuster cluck!! I think they need to tie them hand and foot and throw them in the damn river and see who talks first!
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I think Misty as some sort of detachment syndrome. I'm not qualified to really make any kind of judgment - she understand right and wrong and there is no doubt about that but then there is the punishment and accepting responsibility for her actions. It's like that's where the train comes off the tracks.
somehow in her mind, she knows what she does is wrong, but punishment and responsibility are for others, even if they didn't commit the crime. I don't know if it's all because she is young, but any 17 year old should know that there is right and wrong and consequences for your actions.
She has some sort of cognitive disassociation disorder in my humble opinion.
In other words - she's whacked.
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Good morning, I also wondered who was watching the kids while Misty was on her three day binge. I don't know if Ron worked the weekends, but if he didn't I just assumed he did.
Morning nrcg! So why do WE have to wonder...why in the heck hasn't that been answered and verified.
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Quote from: Rob on April 24, 2010, 10:01:39 AM
I think Misty as some sort of detachment syndrome. I'm not qualified to really make any kind of judgment - she understand right and wrong and there is no doubt about that but then there is the punishment and accepting responsibility for her actions. It's like that's where the train comes off the tracks.
somehow in her mind, she knows what she does is wrong, but punishment and responsibility are for others, even if they didn't commit the crime. I don't know if it's all because she is young, but any 17 year old should know that there is right and wrong and consequences for your actions.
She has some sort of cognitive disassociation disorder in my humble opinion.
In other words - she's whacked.
rob, I know you have seen Ron's record...can you give any explanation why he keeps getting 'off'? He walks away from charges that would put you or I in jail for years! Some think he may have been a drug snitch..........
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Quote from: SunnyinTX on April 24, 2010, 10:02:00 AM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 24, 2010, 09:46:59 AM
Good morning, I also wondered who was watching the kids while Misty was on her three day binge. I don't know if Ron worked the weekends, but if he didn't I just assumed he did.
Morning nrcg! So why do WE have to wonder...why in the heck hasn't that been answered and verified.
This may have been answered, and I don't remember, but I'm sure someone here knows this answer. I was even trying to remember if Crystal had the kids that weekend. There is so much info, I'm forgetting some of this. I think Misty is whacked also Rob, I don't really know terms for different mental disorders, except for a few, so I'll go with whacked. There is a part of me that can't help but feel sorry for all three of those kids, having to deal and live with Hank and Lisa couldn't have been easy. Though it does seem when Misty was with Flo she was doing okay, but then how does one believe that, when everyone lies.
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rob, I know you have seen Ron's record...can you give any explanation why he keeps getting 'off'? He walks away from charges that would put you or I in jail for years! Some think he may have been a drug snitch..........
<stumped> like everyone else. ((shrugs))
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Quote from: SunnyinTX on April 24, 2010, 10:06:31 AM
rob, I know you have seen Ron's record...can you give any explanation why he keeps getting 'off'? He walks away from charges that would put you or I in jail for years! Some think he may have been a drug snitch..........
<stumped> like everyone else. ((shrugs))
by the way Sunny, I hope things are all going better for you
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Quote from: SunnyinTX on April 24, 2010, 10:06:31 AM
Quote from: Rob on April 24, 2010, 10:01:39 AM
I think Misty as some sort of detachment syndrome. I'm not qualified to really make any kind of judgment - she understand right and wrong and there is no doubt about that but then there is the punishment and accepting responsibility for her actions. It's like that's where the train comes off the tracks.
somehow in her mind, she knows what she does is wrong, but punishment and responsibility are for others, even if they didn't commit the crime. I don't know if it's all because she is young, but any 17 year old should know that there is right and wrong and consequences for your actions.
She has some sort of cognitive disassociation disorder in my humble opinion.
In other words - she's whacked.
rob, I know you have seen Ron's record...can you give any explanation why he keeps getting 'off'? He walks away from charges that would put you or I in jail for years! Some think he may have been a drug snitch..........
As soon as I see people that have done something to animals that is wrong, I'm done with a person, my logic is if you hurt an animal it wouldn't be a big stretch to hurt a human. That one charge with a deer and Ron
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Quote from: Rob on April 24, 2010, 10:08:44 AM
Quote from: SunnyinTX on April 24, 2010, 10:06:31 AM
rob, I know you have seen Ron's record...can you give any explanation why he keeps getting 'off'? He walks away from charges that would put you or I in jail for years! Some think he may have been a drug snitch..........
<stumped> like everyone else. ((shrugs))
by the way Sunny, I hope things are all going better for you
all is good..........and you too I hope
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Quote from: Rob on April 24, 2010, 10:08:44 AM
Quote from: SunnyinTX on April 24, 2010, 10:06:31 AM
rob, I know you have seen Ron's record...can you give any explanation why he keeps getting 'off'? He walks away from charges that would put you or I in jail for years! Some think he may have been a drug snitch..........
<stumped> like everyone else. ((shrugs))
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Natalee, We will never forget.
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TTYL...............have a good day!!
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Very interesting thanks Grama
Thanks Grama.. Interesting article
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Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 24, 2010, 09:46:59 AM
Good morning, I also wondered who was watching the kids while Misty was on her three day binge. I don't know if Ron worked the weekends, but if he didn't I just assumed he did.
I'm sure it's been discussed. It would have been a huge question at some point. Oh and I think I meant while Ron was working NIGHTS, not days.
I wonder why the GGMS didn't mention this? or did she? Or did someone else admit to the care of the kids? I have no idea.
What I find now that is interesting .. Misty stated the blanket was peed on Monday so does that mean the children were at the home on the weekend. Now GGranny does the wash for the children.. Did she only do the clothes? If Haleigh wet the bed at night or some times at night you would think GGranny would check the sheets and blankets to see if they needed to be washed.. Just Thinking Out Loud...
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Haleigh Cummings: Issues 4/23/10 Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MfvNGBc4Pk
Haleigh Cummings: Issues 4/23/10 Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDv75wGlI3Y
Haleigh Cummings: Issues 4/23/10 Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDIFBZxikgI
Haleigh Cummings: Issues 4/23/10 Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Odxy8jDRTM
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Good morning, I also wondered who was watching the kids while Misty was on her three day binge. I don't know if Ron worked the weekends, but if he didn't I just assumed he did.
Hi
no rose
We may be bald today from pulling out all our hair but ... that run in the rain yesterday really did relieve some of the frustration in regards to this case. We'll have to do it again.
Hey ... could it be that Grandma Sykes had been watching the kids in Misty's absence and ... this is the reason she was returning the "laundry". Something does not seem right in regards to the explanation she provided to NG in regards to the "laundry".
IMO
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Nancy Grace - April 22, 2010
ANNETTE SYKES, HALEIGH`S GREAT-GRANDMOTHER: I stopped by about 7:30 to drop off some laundry that I had done. I always did the children`s laundry just because it`s something I`ve always done. And the children were on the front porch with Misty. They were eating supper. And when we drove up, Haleigh jumped out of her chair and come running up and gave me a hug. And Junior came out and gave me a hug, and I gave them a kiss. And Misty walked out. She helped carry some of the clothes into the house and got the children`s shirts on, and they got back up to eat supper. I gave them a kiss, told them good-bye, and I got back in the car and left.
GRACE: So all along, Ms. Sykes, Misty Croslin has told us that that evening she spent that evening doing laundry, doing the kids` laundry. So that`s not true.
You did the laundry?
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She did hers and Ronald`s and the household laundry, but I did the children`s clothes because I didn`t like them -- I didn`t like them to have stains or anything on them. I`m real -- I just always did their laundry, the children`s laundry. They did their own...
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/22/ng.01.html
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 24, 2010, 10:52:15 AM
Quote from: no rose colored glasses on April 24, 2010, 09:46:59 AM
Good morning, I also wondered who was watching the kids while Misty was on her three day binge. I don't know if Ron worked the weekends, but if he didn't I just assumed he did.
Hi
no rose
We may be bald today from pulling out all our hair but ... that run in the rain yesterday really did relieve some of the frustration in regards to this case. We'll have to do it again.
Hey ... could it be that Grandma Sykes had been watching the kids in Misty's absence and ... this is the reason she was returning the "laundry". Something does not seem right in regards to the explanation she provided to NG in regards to the "laundry".
IMO
Janet
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Nancy Grace - April 22, 2010
ANNETTE SYKES, HALEIGH`S GREAT-GRANDMOTHER: I stopped by about 7:30 to drop off some laundry that I had done. I always did the children`s laundry just because it`s something I`ve always done. And the children were on the front porch with Misty. They were eating supper. And when we drove up, Haleigh jumped out of her chair and come running up and gave me a hug. And Junior came out and gave me a hug, and I gave them a kiss. And Misty walked out. She helped carry some of the clothes into the house and got the children`s shirts on, and they got back up to eat supper. I gave them a kiss, told them good-bye, and I got back in the car and left.
GRACE: So all along, Ms. Sykes, Misty Croslin has told us that that evening she spent that evening doing laundry, doing the kids` laundry. So that`s not true.
You did the laundry?
SYKES:
She did hers and Ronald`s and the household laundry, but I did the children`s clothes because I didn`t like them -- I didn`t like them to have stains or anything on them. I`m real -- I just always did their laundry, the children`s laundry. They did their own...
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/22/ng.01.html
I'm already mostly grey haired
so might as well pull out some as well. If we could only get a straight answer for simple questions that would help, who really picked up Haleigh from the bus stop would be great. Now I wouldn't doubt that great grandma did the kid's laundry, but I just don't believe anyone. And maybe great grandma did take care of the kids that weekend that Misty was off getting into trouble. I've never seen such a mess, everybody covers their butt.
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=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
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=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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