Haleigh Marie Cummings #35 4/22/10 - 5/04/10

[cw618]

I hate to even bring this up, but I hope no one in Flo's family deliberately did something to her and that is why she is in the hospital  I have to go to bed, but I'm almost afraid in the morning we may hear something like that, I sure hope not 

i had the same thought, some of those people seem like they can be very cruel

[Heart]

Also Levi lives very close to where Flo does

that explains levi LOL

 

I'm wondering if he is related. 

[d in texas]

Hearing Flo is in the hospital and sure this is in no way true or accurate just my thoughts....!!  but the first thing that came to my mind was "hope no one poisened the lady"

I do believe Flo was telling the truth the first night, I think from that point she was fed bits and pieces by people (meaning well) but just causing chaos in the end.   
It was confirmed that she did indeed call g.gm sykes what Misty had just told her and which blows my mind, they don't call the police (TN, g.gm sykes) and report, verify the information just relayed to them.   Heck no they go search the woods themselves that blows my mind two gals out in the woods looking for WHAT????? 

[cw618]

Also Levi lives very close to where Flo does

that explains levi LOL

 

I'm wondering if he is related. 

im checking to see if he is related to me, i have relatives name page from KY
i know he is in TN,hop, skip, jump, as they say LOL
if he is ill need lots of these lol
 

[Heart]

Hearing Flo is in the hospital and sure this is in no way true or accurate just my thoughts....!!  but the first thing that came to my mind was "hope no one poisened the lady"

I do believe Flo was telling the truth the first night, I think from that point she was fed bits and pieces by people (meaning well) but just causing chaos in the end.   
It was confirmed that she did indeed call g.gm sykes what Misty had just told her and which blows my mind, they don't call the police (TN, g.gm sykes) and report, verify the information just relayed to them.   Heck no they go search the woods themselves that blows my mind two gals out in the woods looking for WHAT????? 

Skykes said when she and TN got to the river, LE would not tell them anything. And after not being told or informed of the reason for the search, her and TN walked around looking in the woods but did not find anything.

SYKES: Well, evidently, they had some tip. Somebody called them. And they were down there searching. And I went down there early that morning and didn`t -- you know, they wouldn`t tell me anything. And I wasn`t -- I knew what they were searching -- you know, I knew they were looking for something participating (SIC) to Haleigh, but I didn`t really know what.

HOLLARS: I was the one that called you and told you that.

SYKES: Yes, she did. Ms. Hollars called me and told me -- she certainly did -- that she had called down here and told them what Tommy had told her. And Teresa and I went and -- over to that area and walked around all afternoon and looked in the woods over there. But of course, we didn`t find anything.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/22/ng.01.html

[cw618]

whew, i checked our Ancestry tree my cuz set up
our page is fron NC to KY, i feel a lot better now
scared myself LOL

[cw618]

SYKES: Well, evidently, they had some tip. Somebody called them. And they were down there searching. And I went down there early that morning and didn`t -- you know, they wouldn`t tell me anything. And I wasn`t -- I knew what they were searching -- you know, I knew they were looking for something participating (SIC) to Haleigh, but I didn`t really know what.

HOLLARS: I was the one that called you and told you that.[/quote]

Somebody called them
why did sykes not say who when she knew who
HOLLARS,I was the one that called you

[Heart]

whew, i checked our Ancestry tree my cuz set up
our page is fron NC to KY, i feel a lot better now
scared myself LOL

lol cw618!

[cw618]

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7616.msg1121593#msg1121593

whoops in my own box, hope you understand what im saying

Somebody called them
why did sykes not say who when she knew who
HOLLARS,I was the one that called you

[Lake Erie Princess]

When Misty gets sentenced for the drug charges, and realizes where she is going, I think she will spill her gut at that time.
She keeps insisting she did not do anything, so they can't break her.

Could her IQ be so low that she is not realizing her situation ?
50 and lower is a problem. I am being serious. What does everyone think ?

[Jerseygirl345]

Hope Case coming up.. Renea is her sister..

UCN: 542010CF000143XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE   
Defense Atty: BEECHING, MARCELLA ANN 

Defendant
SYKES, HOPE A 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/13/10) 

2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A 

2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 14 GRAMS LESS 

2010-01-21 1 THAN 28 GRAMS 

2010-01-21 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $150.000.00 

2010-01-22 3 ARREST REPORT: TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (1/20/10) 

2010-01-22 4 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 

2010-01-22 4 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING 

2010-01-22 4 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2010-01-22 4 $150,000.00 SECURED BOND SET 

2010-01-22 5 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS 

2010-01-22 6 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2010-01-22 7 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF 

2010-01-22 7 BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S 

2010-01-22 7 RELEASE ON BAIL ("NEBBIA HEARING") 

2010-01-22 8 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-01-22 8 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL ("NEBBIA HEARING") 

2010-01-22 8 PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S RELEASE ON BAIL 

2010-01-22 9 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED 

2010-02-03 10 INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (14G-28G) 

2010-02-03 11 MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIVISION 52 

2010-02-03 12 ORDER OF TRANSFER TO DIVISION 52 

2010-02-03 13 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL 

2010-02-08 14 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AND APPOINT REGIONAL CONFLICT 

2010-02-08 14 COUNSEL 

2010-02-09 15 ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE 

2010-02-10 16 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-02-18 17 ARR MIN:DEFT PRES,ADJ INS P D APPT (MARCELLA BEECHING) 

2010-02-18 17 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY - PRE TRIAL SET 03/31/2010 

2010-02-18 17 CONFLICT COUNSEL APPOINTED MARCELLA BEECHING 

2010-02-18 18 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS 

2010-02-18 19 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2010-02-18 20 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010 

2010-02-18 21 APPOINTING REGIONAL CONFLCIT COUNSEL 

2010-02-19 21 ORDER ALLOWING PUBLIC DEFENDER TO WITHDRAW AND 

2010-02-22 22 MOTION TO WITHDRAW 

2010-03-01 23 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT 

2010-03-01 24 WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-01 25 DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE 

2010-03-01 26 ORDER ALLOWING THE OFFICE OF CRIMINAL CONFLICT AND 

2010-03-01 26 CIVIL REGIONAL COUNSEL WITHDRAW 

2010-03-01 27 CERTIFICATION OF CONFLICT BY OFFICE OF REGIONAL 

2010-03-01 27 CRIMINAL AND CIVIL CONFLICT, 5TH DISTRICT 

2010-03-02 28 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE, WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT 

2010-03-02 28 ENTRY OF PLEA, AND REQUEST FOR JURY TRIL 

2010-03-02 29 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY: MARCELLA BEECHING 

2010-03-02 30 RECIPROCAL WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-02 31 DISCOVERY DEMAND 

2010-03-03 32 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010) 

2010-03-11 33 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-31 34 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY MARCELLA BEECHING 

2010-03-31 34 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO THE OFFENSE OF 

2010-03-31 34 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE 14-28 GRAMS 

2010-03-31 34 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 30 YRS DOC &/OR $15,000 FINE 

2010-03-31 34 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING SET 04/27/2010 

2010-04-07 35 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (04-27-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-04-07 36 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (04-27-2010) 

2010-04-19 37 DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: 

2010-04-19 37 RENEA WHITMORE 

[Heart]

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7616.msg1121593#msg1121593

whoops in my own box, hope you understand what im saying

Somebody called them
why did sykes not say who when she knew who
HOLLARS,I was the one that called you

I don't see why she should or should not have unless asked by the host.

[cw618]

i work with adults with developmental disabilities
and from 70 IQ and below, she may not have the capacity to understand her situation
but at 70 and with training and support she knows right from wrong
a person with developmental disabilities,is dependent on training and support
to function, maybe she needs to be tested again, im sure she was tested, at some point
because she said she dropped out with a 7th grade ed., and was in a dummies class
or something like that she said
sure hope we are not giving her lawyer any ideas

[cw618]

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7616.msg1121593#msg1121593

whoops in my own box, hope you understand what im saying

Somebody called them
why did sykes not say who when she knew who
HOLLARS,I was the one that called you

I don't see why she should or should not have unless asked by the host.

i think the host did ask, but why didnt sykes just say who, when she knew who called
if id been asked, i would have said hollars told me, like no big deal, in saying who
or am i miss understanding

[Lake Erie Princess]

i work with adults with developmental disabilities
and from 70 IQ and below, she may not have the capacity to understand her situation
but at 70 and with training and support she knows right from wrong
a person with developmental disabilities,is dependent on training and support
to function, maybe she needs to be tested again, im sure she was tested, at some point
because she said she dropped out with a 7th grade ed., and was in a dummies class
or something like that she said
sure hope we are not giving her lawyer any ideas

IMO Misty appears to NOT realize the seriousness of this situation. She mentions boot camp,  etc ???
That is why I wondered if she was born with a low IQ ? Do any of these people have at least a high school education ?

[islandmonkey]

Just found this on twitter and IIRC Trinity worked for KP, this is all in response to a stmt from the Orange one which I always take with a box of salt, BUT thought I'd put it out there anyway 

Someone confronted Ron at a gas station about his inconsistancy, and Ron said everyone will know the truth when they pull her up from the river.

@Maven2379 really, he shouldn't have said that. he knows some stuff from the early months that shouldn't be released. now, just knows bs.
9 minutes ago via web in reply to Maven2379
 
Reply    @pt_aracruz ok...go kirllos. switch to private.
10 minutes ago via web
Reply    @Maven2379 yes, i know what was said. doesn't matter, really now, does it?
12 minutes ago via web in reply to Maven2379
 
Reply    @Maven2379 Yes. it was said. LE has it. Art knows very little, second hand from a friend. It was given to LE. Witness in sworn intererview.
13 minutes ago via web in reply to Maven2379
 
Reply    @Maven2379 Art probably just remembered it. He has no other info on that, and can't get it. He knows that. That's all you'll ever hear.
15 minutes ago via web in reply to Maven2379
 
Reply    @Maven2379 Doubt it. Art didn't talk to the source. It came from a confidential source that he never spoke to. He knows it second hand. 15 minutes ago via web in reply to Maven2379
 

 

Reply    @Maven2379 Ron said, "They'll know what happened when her body floats up from under the water." AH misquoated the source. Typical....
18 minutes ago via web in reply to Maven2379

 

[cw618]

i work with adults with developmental disabilities
and from 70 IQ and below, she may not have the capacity to understand her situation
but at 70 and with training and support she knows right from wrong
a person with developmental disabilities,is dependent on training and support
to function, maybe she needs to be tested again, im sure she was tested, at some point
because she said she dropped out with a 7th grade ed., and was in a dummies class
or something like that she said
sure hope we are not giving her lawyer any ideas

IMO Misty appears to NOT realize the seriousness of this situation. She mentions boot camp,  etc ???
That is why I wondered if she was born with a low IQ ? Do any of these people have at least a high school education ?

im not familiar, with the board of mental health, in fl, but to my understanding boot camp is not an effective method, for redirection, with or with out developmental disabilities,and is
definitely not a place for someone with developmental disabilities
IMO good values, start in the home, with a solid understanding by the parent/s of life skills
and values, to be imparted to the child, then the child young adult would not be faced
with the prospect of boot camp

[cw618]

Reply    @Maven2379 Ron said, "They'll know what happened when her body floats up from under the water." AH misquoated the source. Typical....
18 minutes ago via web in reply to Maven2379

not trying to be cruel, mean,ect. but if Haleigh is somewhere in the water in fl, and
not in a container, she will not be floating up,unless released from a container
its been 14 months, not much left of a body in the water,that long,and in fl prob no
body, youd be lucky to find bones, in fl water

[cw618]

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7616.msg1121608#msg1121608

im sorry i meant to put a LOL after,,,,sure hope we are not giving her lawyer any ideas
 i meant it as a joke,
if misty has, developmental disabilities, thats a whole new ball game

sure hope we are not giving her lawyer any ideas

see link

[Tamikosmom]

Granted ... Flora Hollars seems to be all over the place in her speculations.  However ... there appears to be an effort to discredit Flora Hollars in regards to what she claims she was told by her grandkids in conversations from the jail in regards to the happenings of that fateful night when Haleigh Cummings went missing.

Why  have recordings yet to be released by LE ... recording which could affirm or dispute Flora Hollars claims?

It was immediately following Tommy and Misty's Sunday night calls to their grandmother that all H--- broke loose.  The investigators were on a mission.

1.  The river search was ongoing day and night for three days.
2.  Cinder blocks were discovered in the designated search area.
3.  Misty's was taken to the dock by LE.
4.  A forensic van was on standby by the dock.
5.  The status of the case was reclassed as a homicide.
6.  Persons of interest were identified by LE.
7.  Joe Overstreet's midnight interrogation.
8.  Tommy's attorney confirmed his client was the source behind the river search.

Janet

++++++++


ANNETTE SYKES

Nancy Grace - April 22, 2010

ANNETTE SYKES, HALEIGH`S GREAT-GRANDMOTHER: ... Ms. Hollars called me and told me -- she certainly did -- that she had called down here and told them what Tommy had told her. And Teresa and I went and -- over to that area and walked around all afternoon and looked in the woods over there. But of course, we didn`t find anything.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/22/ng.01.html


FLORA HOLLARS

Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell – April 15, 2010

FLORA HOLLARS, MISTY`S AND JOE`S GRANDMOTHER: Because of the way that Tommy talked to my -- I brought Tommy down Sunday night on the telephone. And that`s when he started telling me, and I toad him, I says, "Hey, Tommy, you failed your lie detector test. Now, I`m fixing to ask you right now. I know in my heart who I think did it."

He says, "Who did you think, Nanny?"

I said, "I think Joe."

He says, "You`re right. Joe is the one that did it."

<snipped>

HOLLARS: What Tommy told me when I broke him down was the fact that Joe stated to him that, if he opened his mouth and said anything, that he would bring a gun back down there and kill his whole family. And Misty stated that he had put a knife to her throat that night, which I know Joe does have knives, and I know Joe does have guns in his house out there.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/15/ijvm.01.html


Nancy Grace – April 15, 2010

FLORA HOLLARS, MISTY`S AND JOE`S GRANDMOTHER:  What I was told by Misty this morning was that Tommy and Joe took Haleigh and wrapped a yellow rope around her and carried her to the dock and tied a brick around the bottom -- the other end of the rope and throwed her into the river. Now, that come from Misty`s mouth into my ear ....

GRACE: She just said that Joe Overstreet killed Misty -- killed Haleigh?

HOLLARS: He and Tommy -- she said Joe Overstreet and Tommy wrapped the rope around Haleigh and carried her to the dock at the St. John`s River and put a block around the other end of the rope and throwed her in the river.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/15/ng.01.html


Nancy Grace - April 22, 2010

NANCY GRACE: Isn`t it true that there has been a scenario put out there, and it had to come from behind bars, that Misty Croslin heard the child in the next room screaming?

FLORA HOLLARS: Yes.

GRACE: And my question is, where did that story come from?

HOLLARS: It came from Misty.

GRACE: What did she say?

HOLLARS: That she heard Haleigh in there crying.

<snipped>

GRACE: And what, if anything, did Misty Croslin do to take care of Haleigh?

HOLLARS: According to what she told me when all this was going on, she`d already had been threatened by Joe, and she grabbed Junior and got into bed, and they covered up their heads completely. And when she took the covers off of her head, Haleigh was gone.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/22/ng.01.html


Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell - April 21, 2010

CALLER: Yes. Why did she wait so long to come out with this? Obviously, they told her earlier on. And so she`s known this for a while, and she waited until they all got arrested on the drug charges to come out with this.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Flo?

FLORA HOLLARS: Who waited?

CALLER: You did.

HOLLARS: I just heard this last week.

<snipped>

HOLLARS: No, ma`am, because 15 minutes after Tommy called me, Misty called me. I told her what he said and she was crying and all she could say is, "Nanny, I`ve told them this all along." Misty didn`t tell me until the following Monday about the rope and the bricks in the St. John`s River.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/21/ijvm.01.html


Nancy Grace - April 15, 2010

FLORA HOLLARS, MISTY`S AND JOE`S GRANDMOTHER:  There`s three grandkids of mine that`s involved in this, and I don`t know why! But I`d sure like to know why. They have no remorse or something. But nobody decided to say anything until I broke Tommy on the phone Sunday. And yes, I`m the one that called the detectives. And yes, I`m the one that sent them to the river!

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/15/ng.01.html


JAMES WERTER

Attorney: Tommy Croslin Gave Investigators Tip
Sun., April 18, 2010

An attorney said Friday that his client, Hank "Tommy" Croslin Jr., led investigators to the St. Johns River in the latest search for Haleigh Cummings.

Attorney James Werter said Croslin met with investigators for over an hour before leading Florida Department of Law Enforcement officials and Putnam County deputies to the river.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36604607/ns/local_news-orlando_fl/


Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell - April 23, 2010

JAMES WERTER, ATTORNEY FOR TOMMY CROSLIN: I will tell you that I feel comfortable with Tommy and representing Tommy. ...

I can tell you this. I had a discussion with Tommy twice, and when he called to get in touch with myself and Steve Brown, he did not talk to Flo Hollars about what happened that night. ...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So you`re saying Grandma Flo is making up this entire story out of whole cloth, because you`re saying Tommy has said to you flat- out, "I did not tell Grandma Flo anything about who did what to Haleigh"?

WERTER: This is what Tommy told me. ...

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: In other words, did Tommy ever implicate Cousin Joe, or could there be somebody else involved?

JAMES WERTER, ATTORNEY FOR TOMMY CROSLIN: Well, I can`t answer the latter part of that question. What I did say was Tommy did not discuss this case with Flo Hollars. ...

MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Well, again, since we know that there was a phone call from Tommy to Flo Hollars, most likely it was tape recorded by the Putnam County sheriffs. Have you heard the content of that exact phone call yet?

WERTER: No, I haven`t. They`re kind of slow on releasing those kind of things.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/23/ijvm.01.html


RICHARD HERMAN

Nancy Grace - April 22, 2010

RICHARD HERMAN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: It`s incredible, Nancy. And the caller is right. I mean, these are jailhouse phone calls. They`ve been recorded. Law enforcement has listened to them.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/22/ng.01.html


LOGIC DICTATES
 
Issues with Jane Velez-Mitchell - April 21, 2010

MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: And Jane, I really don`t think also that law enforcement would have gone to all this trouble and this whole dive operation, had they not thought that the information they got was very credible.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes.

JAYNE WEINTRAUB, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Especially to stay all night on a river. I mean, it`s really -- it`s unheard of. ...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/21/ijvm.01.html