Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 - 6/4/10

[klaasend]

Death penalty in Peru????? Many countries won't extradite perps who may be subject to the death penalty.  In any case, Peru just HAS to be tougher on murderers than The Netherlands or Aruba!

I was looking today. It appears that Peru doesn`t have the death penalty.

...but their prisons are so rough... you`ll wish you did.

I can't imagine he last a day and half in one of their prisons!

Thats what I have been reading.  Very bad conditions.  Also prisoners are known to kill people like him within a few days.  Pity.  lol.

[klaasend]

They should watch internet cafes. He will want to know what's being done.

Good point PV

[texasmom]

Bill O'Reilly....that WEASEL Joran van der Sloot!

That's all I heard, lol

He's on the oil spill right now, I'm sure he'll follow up on it shortly.

[Keepthefaith]

To hell with the Cahulawassee River Wreck,Rob,BillB,Carpe.....Anyone up for The Amazon....................

[SuzieQ]

Do we know what years Joran was in Thailand? Found this.

http://whatismatt.com/swedish-woman-murdered-in-phuket/

March 16th, 2008 by The Lost Boy
Swedish national Hanna Charlotta Backlund, 26, was found murdered at Mai Khao in Phuket on Saturday. According to reports, the body was dressed in a swimsuit and her throat had multiple stab wounds. There were also lacerations to her back, midriff and hands.

Police said that this was an attempted rape. When looking for a motive for an attack on someone wearing nothing but a swimsuit and with no valuables on them, this is clearly not an attempted mugging. Police also said that a group of three or four people are responsible.

“Emma [Hanna’s friend] left the resort to buy some water and she told Hanna that she will join her sunbathing later. About 30 minutes later, she returned to find Hanna dead,” police told the Gazette.

Emma, told police that the pair often sunbathed topless. Although she said that they normally did it when no-one was around, it’s open to speculation whether this played a part in Hanna’s tragic death.

This is eerily reminiscent of the Katherine Horton incident in which the British tourist was raped and murdered on Samui in 2006. When that happened, Thaksin made a song and dance about catching the killers because of the potential impact such a case could have on tourism. Now that we have another young woman murdered in a possible botched rape, there really is nothing the current government can do to prevent a backlash.

With no witnesses and a recent spate in Phuket of unsolved cases involving murdered foreigners, this could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. At least in the case of Katherine Horton her killers were brought to justice and given the death penalty.

At the moment, the Post, Nation and, obviously, the Gazette have picked up this story along with IHT.

Addendum: CNN has also picked this up.

Addendum II: Remember what I said about Thaksin stepping in to speed up the case after Katherine Horton was murdered? Well, we have a similar situation with this case. From The Nation:

Tourism and Sports Minister Weerasak Kowsurat visited Phuket late Sunday night to ask police to speed up probe into the murder of a tourist on a popular beach of this island province.

[Frijole]

They should watch internet cafes. He will want to know what's being done.

Good point PV

I agree.  He is going to want to check out the net and watch some TV coverage.  If he had two suitcases he is gonna have to dump them and go with a backpack or something light.  Hope the police and interpol are on to all of this.  It is time.

[Dihannah1]

I heard/read Peru's prisons consist of concrete beds, no mattress, no windows, but steel rods open letting the cold in.  They have to wash there own clothes in freezing water and the cells are 6 1/2 by 10 ft, with 2 men sharing.   Not a very pleasant place and a perfect place for him.

[Frijole]

I heard/read Peru's prisons consist of concrete beds, no mattress, no windows, but steel rods open letting the cold in.  They have to wash there own clothes in freezing water and the cells are 6 1/2 by 10 ft, with 2 men sharing.   Not a very pleasant place and a perfect place for him.

Sounds perfect.  Better than the death penalty IMHO.  Better not reach for the soap. Oops.

[Port Valerie]

I think this is the website for the hotel. $16.00 day. Explains why no maids entered and discovered the girl between Sunday and Wednesday.

http://www.guiahostal.com/lima/hotel_tac.htm

[cecilita]

I think this is the website for the hotel. $16.00 day. Explains why no maids entered and discovered the girl between Sunday and Wednesday.

http://www.guiahostal.com/lima/hotel_tac.htm

OMG that hotel is or people just go there to have sex .....they just pay for hours.....nasty that area is very dangerous..I though that guy had money

[San]

I heard/read Peru's prisons consist of concrete beds, no mattress, no windows, but steel rods open letting the cold in.  They have to wash there own clothes in freezing water and the cells are 6 1/2 by 10 ft, with 2 men sharing.   Not a very pleasant place and a perfect place for him.

No plumbing either.  Just a hole in the floor.

[Dihannah1]

I heard/read Peru's prisons consist of concrete beds, no mattress, no windows, but steel rods open letting the cold in.  They have to wash there own clothes in freezing water and the cells are 6 1/2 by 10 ft, with 2 men sharing.   Not a very pleasant place and a perfect place for him.

Sounds perfect.  Better than the death penalty IMHO.  Better not reach for the soap. Oops.

I'm sure that makes good conditions for really grumpy men to boot.   And his size sharing a cell?  LOL  I'd hate to be his roomie...   KARMA BABY!

[Curly]

Death penalty in Peru????? Many countries won't extradite perps who may be subject to the death penalty.  In any case, Peru just HAS to be tougher on murderers than The Netherlands or Aruba!

It was said somewhere that they only use the DP for acts of treason.
Their prison system is just like the DP if you ask me.

[klaasend]

Do we know what years Joran was in Thailand? Found this.

http://whatismatt.com/swedish-woman-murdered-in-phuket/

March 16th, 2008 by The Lost Boy
Swedish national Hanna Charlotta Backlund, 26, was found murdered at Mai Khao in Phuket on Saturday. According to reports, the body was dressed in a swimsuit and her throat had multiple stab wounds. There were also lacerations to her back, midriff and hands.

Police said that this was an attempted rape. When looking for a motive for an attack on someone wearing nothing but a swimsuit and with no valuables on them, this is clearly not an attempted mugging. Police also said that a group of three or four people are responsible.

“Emma [Hanna’s friend] left the resort to buy some water and she told Hanna that she will join her sunbathing later. About 30 minutes later, she returned to find Hanna dead,” police told the Gazette.

Emma, told police that the pair often sunbathed topless. Although she said that they normally did it when no-one was around, it’s open to speculation whether this played a part in Hanna’s tragic death.

This is eerily reminiscent of the Katherine Horton incident in which the British tourist was raped and murdered on Samui in 2006. When that happened, Thaksin made a song and dance about catching the killers because of the potential impact such a case could have on tourism. Now that we have another young woman murdered in a possible botched rape, there really is nothing the current government can do to prevent a backlash.

With no witnesses and a recent spate in Phuket of unsolved cases involving murdered foreigners, this could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. At least in the case of Katherine Horton her killers were brought to justice and given the death penalty.

At the moment, the Post, Nation and, obviously, the Gazette have picked up this story along with IHT.

Addendum: CNN has also picked this up.

Addendum II: Remember what I said about Thaksin stepping in to speed up the case after Katherine Horton was murdered? Well, we have a similar situation with this case. From The Nation:

Tourism and Sports Minister Weerasak Kowsurat visited Phuket late Sunday night to ask police to speed up probe into the murder of a tourist on a popular beach of this island province.

WOW, I believe Joran was there then

[Frijole]

I think this is the website for the hotel. $16.00 day. Explains why no maids entered and discovered the girl between Sunday and Wednesday.

http://www.guiahostal.com/lima/hotel_tac.htm

OMG that hotel is or people just go there to have sex .....they just pay for hours.....nasty that area is very dangerous..I though that guy had money

I think Joran tried to ACT like he had money.  Just a druggie without a job that played poker for play money.  His family has some money but not Joran.  So what is the word in Lima?  Anything different from what we are hearing or anything new?

[cecilita]

I think this is the website for the hotel. $16.00 day. Explains why no maids entered and discovered the girl between Sunday and Wednesday.

http://www.guiahostal.com/lima/hotel_tac.htm

OMG that hotel is or people just go there to have sex .....they just pay for hours.....nasty that area is very dangerous..I though that guy had money

it is in Miraflores

[Dihannah1]

I heard/read Peru's prisons consist of concrete beds, no mattress, no windows, but steel rods open letting the cold in.  They have to wash there own clothes in freezing water and the cells are 6 1/2 by 10 ft, with 2 men sharing.   Not a very pleasant place and a perfect place for him.

No plumbing either.  Just a hole in the floor.

Maybe he will fall in!  LOL

[wreck]

.....and Tacopina already on record that 'Joran was falsley accused in Natalee's case' and 'we shouldn't jump to conclusions!!' --- geeeesh!!!!

[Magnolia]

I think this is the website for the hotel. $16.00 day. Explains why no maids entered and discovered the girl between Sunday and Wednesday.

http://www.guiahostal.com/lima/hotel_tac.htm

OMG that hotel is or people just go there to have sex .....they just pay for hours.....nasty that area is very dangerous..I though that guy had money

it is in Miraflores

You know Joran had to haved drugged that poor girl to even get her to go to that sleezy hotel.
Wasn't her car left at the casino?

[Dihannah1]

.....and Tacopina already on record that 'Joran was falsley accused in Natalee's case' and 'we shouldn't jump to conclusions!!' --- geeeesh!!!!

All I can is DUMBA$$