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« Reply #1120 on: June 03, 2010, 10:26:59 PM »

Today's search and capture would not have happened if Beth and Dave had not hammered and hammered and put Joran's face in front of the whole world.


That's correct! 

I agree.  Beth and Dave were very successful with the very worst that was given to them.
It seems tha the entire world wanted Joran to get captured....AND...he did!!!

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« Reply #1121 on: June 03, 2010, 10:27:20 PM »

I am curious about what happened to Joran on May 14th that caused both
Anita and Julia Renho to offer up encouragment on facebook.

In retrospect, now with all that's happened, and knowing when he left Aruba - I think that was his mother's final farewell to him.  I think she had finally had enough, and that was her Adios.

Maybe so.  I think something was up and he was depressed.  I think he planned to come back to
Aruba though.  She obviously didn't share any of her inheirentence from Paulus with him, if there was
any money to inherit.

I heard somewhere today that he couldn't find a "good" job (yeah right), and had gambled away some money...I was wondering after hearing that if she had given him money and he'd lost it gambling.

Wonder what he did with the 15 grand?

dyed his hair.


LMAO!!!!  The extra 5 grand was for the eyebrow job.  I think he ought to demand a refund.

Seriously tho Mags, bought date rape drugs, alcohol, cocaine?  Funded the two weeks he spent in that hotel before he murdered again?  Plane ticket to Colombia?
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« Reply #1122 on: June 03, 2010, 10:28:59 PM »

Alberto's latest rant

Add as Friend Alberto Groeneveldt: And here we go once more....,,, Nancy Grace with her shit about Aruba..... Joran is Joran blame him ... why continue with banning Aruba.... He just screwed up again and this time God knows if he is quilty what will be the outcome... but dam Nancy have a freeking kit kat bar get a man or something and make the news hot with Joran and leave the Arubans ALONE....... Getting tired of all this ...27 minutes ago
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« Reply #1123 on: June 03, 2010, 10:29:32 PM »

Greta's report on Joran on next.

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« Reply #1124 on: June 03, 2010, 10:30:43 PM »


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« Reply #1125 on: June 03, 2010, 10:30:50 PM »

<----------------- smoking a big old cigar    (  been waiting over 5 years )

i quite smoking cigs almost 2 years ago  but i have been saving a nice ol cigar for this DAY



the fat ugly pig son of satan is toast  and all of the FAT PIGS in aruba and the netherlands that
did nothing can go straight to hell


tomorrow i will wear a new T SHIRT to the airport that says ( The pig is in the cage
dont go to aruba it sucks  )



puff puff puff puff 


lol.  Do you still go to the airport after all this time?  Good to see you again.
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« Reply #1126 on: June 03, 2010, 10:31:20 PM »

Alberto's latest rant

Add as Friend Alberto Groeneveldt: And here we go once more....,,, Nancy Grace with her shit about Aruba..... Joran is Joran blame him ... why continue with banning Aruba.... He just screwed up again and this time God knows if he is quilty what will be the outcome... but dam Nancy have a freeking kit kat bar get a man or something and make the news hot with Joran and leave the Arubans ALONE....... Getting tired of all this ...27 minutes ago

Ohhhhhhhhh Alberto!  Don't even get me started about "getting tired of all this".  Buddy, just how much bullsh*t did YOU cause Beth?  What was that again about you changing your story about her flight?  What.....3,4 times?  Was that for money?  Or was that just because you are an ass!
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« Reply #1127 on: June 03, 2010, 10:31:39 PM »

I want to see Joran in Peru.  Then, and only then will I feel settled.

The Netherlands sent a delegation to visit Joran.  Is it mandatory to do this when a Dutch citizen is incarcerated in another country?  tia.


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I do not know but I find it suspicions.  Could i be that considering an arrest warrant has yet to be issued by Peru ... the Dutch/Arubans are attempting to get Joran back to Holland/Aruba by being first to issue an arrest warrant ... an arrest warrant pertaining to the extortion and wire fraud criminal complaint filed against Joran by US Attorney Joyce Vance.

Think about it.  The jurisdiction where that crime took place is most likely Holland or Aruba.

Janet

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June 3, 2010 | 1:23 PM ET

As you know doubt know, I have been making calls to Aruba to find out what people know about the latest Joran van der Sloot news.

I have learned - and this is rather curious - that Holloway family lawyer John Q. Kelly has been spotted twice in the last 30 days in Aruba.

His presence (twice in the last 30 days) in Aruba is notable and peculiar since the Aruban authorities have said they have shut down the Natalee investigation and yesterday made a statement that they have nothing to do with this latest Peru investigation for murder.

http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-update/



As you say Janet, this scares me!  Perhaps it's my general lack of trust, cynicism and disappointments that we've all witnessed so often in the past.

I won't feel right, until he is in the hands of Peruvian LE.

 

Me too.

Janet


The US attorney said in her statement that they were attempting to extradite him to the US
for prosecution.
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« Reply #1128 on: June 03, 2010, 10:32:13 PM »

Someone asked a few pages back about Joran's FB friends - it looks like he has lost about 13 "friends" in the last 2 days.

Melody has a new friend today...Aline Hibbert
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1129 on: June 03, 2010, 10:32:48 PM »


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« Reply #1130 on: June 03, 2010, 10:35:28 PM »

Hi Monkeys!  I knew we would be discussing POS again.  I am sorry another "angel" had to die.  I hope Peru keeps this monster off the streets forever!
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« Reply #1131 on: June 03, 2010, 10:35:37 PM »


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« Reply #1132 on: June 03, 2010, 10:35:37 PM »

I want to see Joran in Peru.  Then, and only then will I feel settled.

The Netherlands sent a delegation to visit Joran.  Is it mandatory to do this when a Dutch citizen is incarcerated in another country?  tia.


Can

I do not know but I find it suspicions.  Could i be that considering an arrest warrant has yet to be issued by Peru ... the Dutch/Arubans are attempting to get Joran back to Holland/Aruba by being first to issue an arrest warrant ... an arrest warrant pertaining to the extortion and wire fraud criminal complaint filed against Joran by US Attorney Joyce Vance.

Think about it.  The jurisdiction where that crime took place is most likely Holland or Aruba.

Janet

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June 3, 2010 | 1:23 PM ET

As you know doubt know, I have been making calls to Aruba to find out what people know about the latest Joran van der Sloot news.

I have learned - and this is rather curious - that Holloway family lawyer John Q. Kelly has been spotted twice in the last 30 days in Aruba.

His presence (twice in the last 30 days) in Aruba is notable and peculiar since the Aruban authorities have said they have shut down the Natalee investigation and yesterday made a statement that they have nothing to do with this latest Peru investigation for murder.

http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-update/



As you say Janet, this scares me!  Perhaps it's my general lack of trust, cynicism and disappointments that we've all witnessed so often in the past.

I won't feel right, until he is in the hands of Peruvian LE.

 

Me too.

Janet


The US attorney said in her statement that they were attempting to extradite him to the US
for prosecution.

Do you think the U. S. extradition attempt will take precedence over the
Peruvian authority?
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« Reply #1133 on: June 03, 2010, 10:36:27 PM »

Someone asked a few pages back about Joran's FB friends - it looks like he has lost about 13 "friends" in the last 2 days.

Melody has a new friend today...Aline Hibbert

This Aline?  This Aline that apparently is living under a rock since mid-day today?  LOL

I think she and Melody could have some good stories to share with one another.

Aline Hibbert

I've called u like crazy, i have send u mailss, messages everywhere! if you get a chance to get to a computer and see them pls call me,email me, message me whatever!!
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« Reply #1134 on: June 03, 2010, 10:36:31 PM »

First you have to have a friend before you can give them a HI 5 star.

I looked it up on TOS!
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« Reply #1135 on: June 03, 2010, 10:37:47 PM »

Alabama charges van der Sloot with extortion in Holloway case
Posted: Jun 03, 2010 2:34 PM PDT
Updated: Jun 03, 2010 2:45 PM PDT


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I, William K. Bryan, the undersigned complainant, being duly sworn, state the following is true and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief: Count One

That on or about May 10, 20lO, the defendant, Joran van der Sloot, did obstruct, delay, and affect commerce and the movement of any article or commodity in commerce, by extortion and attempts to do so, in that, the defendant did knowingly and wilfully cause another person to wire transfer a partial payment of money ($15,000) from a financial institution in Birmingham, Alabama, to a financial institution in the Netherlands, after representing to the other person that he would provide the location ofNata lee Holloway's remains in Aruba and information regarding the circumstances of her death, upon receipt of $250,000 from the other person, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1951(a).

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http://www.wmbfnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=12591373
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« Reply #1136 on: June 03, 2010, 10:38:22 PM »



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« Reply #1137 on: June 03, 2010, 10:38:32 PM »


Do you think the U. S. extradition attempt will take precedence over the
Peruvian authority?

Hi can!  I personally think there is some pretty good cooperation (and possibly some wheeling and dealing) going on between the US, Chile, Interpol and Peru.  IMO, there is a reason he wasn't handcuffed today, and there is a reason an international arrest warrant has not been issued.
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« Reply #1138 on: June 03, 2010, 10:38:42 PM »

Alberto's latest rant

Add as Friend Alberto Groeneveldt: And here we go once more....,,, Nancy Grace with her shit about Aruba..... Joran is Joran blame him ... why continue with banning Aruba.... He just screwed up again and this time God knows if he is quilty what will be the outcome... but dam Nancy have a freeking kit kat bar get a man or something and make the news hot with Joran and leave the Arubans ALONE....... Getting tired of all this ...27 minutes ago

Ohhhhhhhhh Alberto!  Don't even get me started about "getting tired of all this".  Buddy, just how much bullsh*t did YOU cause Beth?  What was that again about you changing your story about her flight?  What.....3,4 times?  Was that for money?  Or was that just because you are an ass!

I agree jen!  He's infuriating!

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1139 on: June 03, 2010, 10:41:10 PM »

LOL Carpe!
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