Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 - 6/4/10

[cecilita]

REMNDER - FLASHBACK

Posted in the old SM forum by NATIVELINGO late at night/morning.  This was back before I knew how to do screen captures so I just copied what was said and put it in wordpad:

Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:56 pm   
Nativelingo posted some interresting information about Joran early this morning:

1.  Joran has/had emotional problems and is a patient of a local pediatric/juvenile psychiatrist (fact).
2.  The incident where Joran killed his dog and blamed it on someone else is fact
3.  That bullying friends and the dog issue are the least of Joran's problems (according to reliable sources)
4.  His HOBBY is Criminal Law (fact)

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=83858&highlight=pediatric+paediatric#83858

For some reason i think that he wanted to be caught

[Tamikosmom]

In spite of all the recent PR about Aruba helping the FBI, I wonder what would have happened if Joran Had been arrested in Aruba. I'm thinking, possibly nothing. Aruba would have found some way to protect him and let him off, so he could proceed to kill some other unsuspecting soul. Maybe the FBI wanted him out of Aruba before they charged him with something.

Sorry I just can't believe Aruba  helped with anything  except to maybe give Joran a heads' up that made him leave and go off to Peru.

Blonde ... I agree.

The Dutch/Arubans' credibility were in the balance.  They did not have any choice but to cooperate with a sting when the FBI informed them of Joran's attempt at extortion on American soil.  However ... I believe the Aruban/Dutch cover-up gang who have had an agenda to protect Joran and Paulus from the getgo ... forwarned Joran that he better get out of town if he did not want to be extradited to the US on extortion and wire fraud.

Thank about it.  The US Attorney addressed the issue as soon as it was revealed that Joran was in a Chilean jail.

Janet

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Federal charges in Alabama will await van der Sloot, if he is not charged in murder case in Peru
June 03, 2010, 8:22PM

If Joran van der Sloot is not charged in the death of a woman in Peru, federal prosecutors in Birmingham say the Dutchman will be brought to Alabama on charges of fraud and extortion announced here today in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Holloway, a Mountain Brook teen, disappeared in May 2005 while on a high school graduation trip to Aruba. Van der Sloot has been a long-time suspect in that case, but does not face charges.

He is being detained in Chile in connection with the death of a 21-year-old woman, found on Sunday in Peru.

The U.S. Attorney's office and FBI said that on May 10, van der Sloot extorted $15,000 as a partial payment from an individual in exchange for information he would provide on the location of Natalee Holloway's remains and the circumstances of her death.

U.S. Attorney Joyce White Vance said that van der Sloot had provided false information during his scheme. She declined to say who van der Sloot had extorted or what he is alleged to have told them.

Federal authorities said the extortion charge from Birmingham was coincidental to the case in Peru.

"I want to stress at the outset that our case is not related in any way to the ongoing murder investigation in Peru,"  Vance said at a press conference in Birmingham.

But if authorities in Peru don't charge van der Sloot then he would be brought to the U.S. to face the charges waiting for him in Birmingham, FBI and U.S. Attorneys office officials said. [/color]

Aruban authorities were helpful to the FBI in its extortion investigation, Vance said.

"We are committed to protecting citizens from unscrupulous individuals who attempt to financially exploit a person's deepest fears and greatest loss," Vance said in a prepared statement. If convicted on the two charges from Birmingham, van der Sloot could face a maximum sentence of 30 years on the wire fraud count and a maximum of 20 years on the extortion charge.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/06/federal_charges_in_alabama_wil.html

[Northern Rose]

Ricardo Flores was questioned about her disappearance Stephany

At present, the police come asking the hotel receptionist, who recorded the arrival of the Dutchman with the young Peruvian, 14 May.
 
The businessman and racer Ricardo Flores paid for more than two hours his statement at the Homicide Division Dirincri, located on Avenida Spain.

The businessman was questioned about the circumstances in which her daughter disappeared Stephany Flores Ramirez (21), who was found dead in a hotel in Miraflores on Wednesday last.

Speaking to reporters, said he will not declare until the police moved to the Netherlands, the main suspect in the murder of the girl.

Homicide Division also questioned the Albanian citizen, who Stephany won five thousand dollars in a poker game in the Atlantis casino.

At present, the police come asking the hotel receptionist, who recorded the arrival of the Dutchman with the young Peruvian, 14 May.

Until near the police headquarters national and international journalists arrived.

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2010-06-04-ricardo-flores-fue-interrogado-sobre-desaparicion-de-su-hija-stephany-noticia_269991.html

[caesu]

i just hope the prison guards won't allow him TV interviews.
so he can get money that way.
and become some kind of leader in that prison.

but i am sure someone will protect him in prison for a certain kind of 'services'...

[SunnyinTX]

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THAT SWEATSHIRT he is wearing  is it a popular brand or familiar one?

Or is this something from a particular business?

Please, can anyone tell me if this is a popular brand sweatshirt like Banana Republic or Target or something???? OR not?????

KERMIT, I have no idea...sorry....I do not remember seeing it before seeing it on him

[MisGivings]

Posted by Glenda/Julia Renfro at RU, the American traitor and all around SL**:

Glenda wrote:

So, "who" financed Joran's trip to Peru resulting in the death of a 21 year old girl. Sad

Oh, Gee, you doofus, who enabled his behavior all these year by covering up for him???

[seemeatthebeach]

this is from earlier

Authorities took his red belt that was holding his pants up yesterday. LMAO
Yep, he'll be ripe for the plucking when he gets to hell with his britches down around his ankles.

[O4Bull]

this is from earlier

is that his short and curlies showin?  or is this migraine affecting my vision?

[Ono]

In spite of all the recent PR about Aruba helping the FBI, I wonder what would have happened if Joran Had been arrested in Aruba. I'm thinking, possibly nothing. Aruba would have found some way to protect him and let him off, so he could proceed to kill some other unsuspecting soul. Maybe the FBI wanted him out of Aruba before they charged him with something.

You could very well be right.  I think that most of the PR about Aruba helping the FBI, has come from Aruba publications. 

The Federal prosecutor in B'ham stated yesterday that Aruba was a big help-I was stunned that Aruba would actually assist!

[caesu]

have fun in Peru!

[JE]

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THAT SWEATSHIRT he is wearing  is it a popular brand or familiar one?

Or is this something from a particular business?

Please, can anyone tell me if this is a popular brand sweatshirt like Banana Republic or Target or something???? OR not?????

Could be from a company called CIRCA, clothing aimed at skaters

KERMIT, I have no idea...sorry....I do not remember seeing it before seeing it on him

[SunnyinTX]

ABC video:

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thanks Klaas....I don't let too much 'get to me' but when Stephany's father said he (joran) laughed at his crime in Aruba......whew...........

[JE]

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THAT SWEATSHIRT he is wearing  is it a popular brand or familiar one?

Or is this something from a particular business?

Please, can anyone tell me if this is a popular brand sweatshirt like Banana Republic or Target or something???? OR not?????

KERMIT, I have no idea...sorry....I do not remember seeing it before seeing it on him

Could be from a company called CIRCA, clothing aimed at skaters

srry messed up

[Northern Rose]

this is from earlier

Authorities took his red belt that was holding his pants up yesterday. LMAO
Yep, he'll be ripe for the plucking when he gets to hell with his britches down around his ankles.

pants on the ground... pants on the ground

[Kermit]

Posted by Glenda/Julia Renfro at RU, the American traitor and all around SL**:

Glenda wrote:

So, "who" financed Joran's trip to Peru resulting in the death of a 21 year old girl. Sad

Oh, Gee, you doofus, who enabled his behavior all these year by covering up for him???

PERHAPS DEN HAAG WILL LOOK INTO YOUR SWISS BANK ACCOUNT AND DISCOVER WHY YOU HAVE A SWISS BANK ACCOUNT WHEN YOUR NOTHING BUT A HACK REPORTER

You AMERICAN TRAITOR!

[Kermit]

this is from earlier

Authorities took his red belt that was holding his pants up yesterday. LMAO
Yep, he'll be ripe for the plucking when he gets to hell with his britches down around his ankles.

pants on the ground... pants on the ground

OH MY GOSH

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Curly]

PNP = Policía Nacional del Perú

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot asked to alert his mother of his capture and deportation to Peru
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Felcomercio.pe%2F

This was pointed out to Emol Chilean police sources, the same that detailed the alien spent the night in a dungeon and guarded at all times by staff of the Investigative Police of Chile.

El subprefecto Fernando Ovalle , jefe (s) de Extranjería de la PDI, reveló que el hombre fue llevado hasta Viña del Mar, donde pasó la noche del miércoles, con el fin de requisar sus ropas y especies electrónicas, pero la diligencia se frustró porque el holandés olvidó la dirección del lugar donde durmió. The sub-prefect Fernando Ovalle , head (s) Aliens of the PDI, revealed that the man was taken to Viña del Mar, where he spent Wednesday night in order to seize their clothes and electronic species, but the coach was frustrated because Dutchman forgot the address where he slept.
A esta hora Van der Sloot se encuentra en la comisaría de La Concordia, en Tacna, desde donde será trasladado a Lima. At this time Van der Sloot is in the station of La Concordia, in Tacna, where it will be moved to Lima.

So if I'm reading this right - they did not get his clothing, laptop, cellphone?

They don't have them YET. Hopefully, during his interrogation, his memory will return.

[MisGivings]

Posted by Glenda/Julia Renfro at RU, the American traitor and all around SL**:

Glenda wrote:

So, "who" financed Joran's trip to Peru resulting in the death of a 21 year old girl. Sad

UNBELIEVEABLE!!!

Well her facebook friend has gotten away with his last heinous act...just how much did this psycho slore help him?    Is she implying that the Holloway family is responsible for giving him the funds to travel?    OMG, she best not be

http://www.facebook.com/people/Julia-Renfro/1588057630


Joran Van Der Sloot

Hey Klaas, how about putting a target on that slut's t-shirt?
The still shoot traitors, don't they?

[Kermit]

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THAT SWEATSHIRT he is wearing  is it a popular brand or familiar one?

Or is this something from a particular business?

Please, can anyone tell me if this is a popular brand sweatshirt like Banana Republic or Target or something???? OR not?????

KERMIT, I have no idea...sorry....I do not remember seeing it before seeing it on him

Could be from a company called CIRCA, clothing aimed at skaters

srry messed up

Skaters would us "BOINK ALERT"?

[seemeatthebeach]

this is from earlier

Authorities took his red belt that was holding his pants up yesterday. LMAO
Yep, he'll be ripe for the plucking when he gets to hell with his britches down around his ankles.

pants on the ground... pants on the ground

Good one Northern Rose!! LOL