Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 - 6/4/10

[Keepthefaith]

ROB,

   THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO...BRING ON THA AMAZON!

 

[Keepthefaith]

Good night, all. I hope there will be news of a capture tomorrow.

GoodNight & God Bless PV.Natalee Holloway will touch a new person each and everyday!

[Northern Rose]

"Joran paid tons to come to Peru"
(AP) - Joran van der Sloot paid two brothers converted 226 000 euros to get him to Peru. That the brothers who run a shuttle service, Peruvian radio station RPP Noticias against said. Van der Sloot is suspected of the murder of 21-year-old daughter of a businessman and race car driver in the Peruvian capital Lima.

The girl was dead Wednesday in a hotel room found that van der Sloot could be hired. She was probably killed Sunday. Van der Sloot left Sunday around noon with a shuttle service from the brothers from the Peruvian Nazca place. Monday they would have arrived in the Chilean city of Arica.

The suspect, according to the brothers wore shorts, white sneakers and had two suitcases with him. They hardly talked to him because he does not know the language.

It was already known that Van der Sloot is located in Chile. The police try to track him down.

Van der Sloot, the murdered girl, Stephany Tatiana Ramirez Flores, in a casino in the district of Miraflores familiar. He was there for a poker tournament. The woman was killed by police with stab wounds. Stephany had been missing since Friday.

Joran van der Sloot is also accused of involvement in the death of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005. Joran told inter alia that her body was dumped into the sea on the beach after she was deceased. He was in this case several times detained.

His lawyer in New York, Joe Taco Pina says he does not know where his client. He would have had no contact with him. However he warns that not too quick on Van der Sloot must be considered. "He has already been unjustly accused."

http://www.trouw.nl/nieuws/nederland/article3085130.ece/_Joran_betaalde_tonnen_om_Peru_uit_te_komen_.html

[Northern Rose]

Netherlands Peru Interpol warned that he fled to Chile

By The Nation / Agencies
La Nación (Chile)
Joran Van Der Sloot is accused of being the murder of the daughter of a well-known local businessman. It has also requested information on their legal status in Holland.

Has caused uproar in Peru's murder Stephany Flores, daughter of the businessman and racer Ricardo Flores, whose murderer would, according to the local Interpol, a young Dutchman who had fled to Chile.

The acting head of Interpol Peru, commander Zojar Ortiz, confirmed to the Peruvian media that Joran Van Der Sloot would have left the country by land through the border of Santa Rosa (Tacna) on May 31 for Chile.

Interior Ministry sources confirmed yesterday Chilean La Nacion that the suspect had entered the country on that day and that the Peruvian police had made contact with the Chilean on the subject.

Ortiz also told Radio Programas del Peru that the subject does not have a warrant for his arrest at the international level, but already sent a warning to Chile not to allow him to leave the country.

Meanwhile, the head of the Criminal Investigation Department (Dirincri) of the National Police of Peru, General Cesar Guardia, said at a news conference that had already been coordinating with Interpol Chile to achieve the preliminary detention of the citizens Netherlands.

"We are coordinating with authorities in Chile are managed (...) (...) preliminary detention is necessary to locate and capture," he said.

He stated further that already have clues about the involvement of Joran Van Der Sloot (23 years) in the murder, as the young man was seen going-on the morning of Sunday, the hotel where it was found the body of the young Stephany just in the company of Flores, 21.

"The hotel employee did not hear screams, but saw them entering together," he said. Local police declined to confirm press reports that linked to Joran Van Der Sloot in the murder of a young American woman five years ago, but the commander Zojar Ortiz said that they have applied this background to the Interpol in the Netherlands.

DETAILS OF CRIME

Ricardo Flores asked yesterday to Peruvian media that the murder of his daughter does not go unpunished and recounted some details of the crime of Stephany and its alleged perpetrator.

"Even before been involved in the murder of a teenager in Aruba, where his body disappeared into the sea with the help of a friend (...) It was free because they never found the body," he lamented.

On what happened on Saturday, Flores revealed that at 2:45 his daughter left some friends in San Isidro and returned to the premises of a casino. "She retired at 5:16 (the casino) with Mr. Joran Van Der Sloot (...) was killed on Sunday," he explained.

"I would ask the police to continue to help us (...) I know that my daughter has died stabbed (...) autopsy will determine what, I hope the authorities have completed investigations," he asked.


Joran Van Der Sloot picture-in-file arrived in Peru on May 14, from Colombia, according to local police said yesterday.

http://www.lanacion.cl/interpol-peru-alerto-que-holandes-se-fugo-a-chile/noticias/2010-06-02/214651.html

Did the father see his daughter Friday? and then she died sunday?

I believe he last saw her Friday and then thought  she had been kidnapped for ransom until they found her murdered.

[Northern Rose]

SANTIAGO, June 2 .- PDI Staff is conducting the search in the area north of the Netherlands citizen Joran Van Der Sloot, who is accused by Peruvian authorities as a dangerous criminal, accused of killing the daughter of an entrepreneur.

This was stated by Regional Head of Arica and Parinacota, prefect Douglas Rodriguez Terra.cl inspector stating that "we are working with all operating units at the regional level and the search is a priority.

As noted by the prefect, the subject was admitted on May 31 to 15 hours Chile to Peru in a vehicle with two men of that nationality.

Rodríguez specified that there is no international red notice requirement, so "we can submit it as a foreign citizen to the immigration law."

The prefect said that no more restraining order against the citizen, but once you locate the PDI, you must submit to control and is subject to administrative measures.

From there, "he warns the government of Peru should manage the international arrest warrant through the Peruvian Supreme Court. He then goes to the Chilean foreign ministry and justice issues that warrant must comply with the police to expel , which is not a quick process, "the authority.

Joran Van Der Sloot, 23, is being investigated by the death of Stephany Ramirez Flores, 21, daughter of the entrepreneur and the Peruvian racer Ricardo Flores, "rifle."

http://www.terra.cl/actualidad/index.cfm?id_reg=1432249&id_cat=302&titulo_url=PDI_confirma_busqueda_de_holandes_acusado_de_crimen_en_Peru

[Northern Rose]

'Pepe my daughter and took her'
By M. Rochabrum
"My daughter met the Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (22) in the casino when playing in a poker tournament. For the videos of the casino, him 'Pepe' my daughter and took her to the hotel," said Ricardo Flores, father of the young murdered.

She studied business administration and went to the casino 'Atlantic City', from Larco and Benavides, Miraflores, to participate in the tournament 'Latin American Poker Tour' which raises funds for the association of autistic children 'Always dawn. "

There was the Dutchman, who played before they did the football player Claudio Pizarro, who donated $ 500, and other athletes in an action of social support for children.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-02/ontractualidad1092425.html

[Northern Rose]

Netherlands kills daughter blows racer

 She was only 21 years, was a university student and daughter of a businessman and former mayoral candidate known racer. In a poker game, a game that was one of her passions, she met a young Dutchman at a casino in Miraflores. They became friends, she accompanied him to the hotel where he was staying and murdered there hitting her face and head, to finally break her neck and rob the $ 5,000 that earned her an Uruguayan playing cards.

Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez died, according to the autopsy, cervical trauma, caused by blunt item. She was the daughter of Ricardo Flores Chipoco, champion of the Inca Trail in 1991.

She met the alleged murderer, identified as Andreas Petrus Van Der Joran Sloot (23), the international poker tournament being held at the casino 'Atlantic City', in the Avenues and Benavides Pardo. On the evening of Saturday 29 May saw the couple playing cards in that local.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-02/ontractualidad1092456.html

[Northern Rose]

He paid 870 thousand suns for a ride to Tacna
 
The Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (23), alleged murderer of Stephany Flores, fled through Arica paying the driver a thousand suns 870 Jhong Aparcana Pisconte Oswaldo, who moved from Ica to Tacna, with a particular service.

The driver, who was driving the truck plate Minivan RF-3047, surrendered its manifestation in the DIVINCRI-Ica, where it was crossing the border with Chile next to the Netherlands on Monday.

On the other hand, it was learned that the alien arrived in Peru from Colombia on 14 May and was registered under his name and passport No. NWJ77F425.

Meanwhile, a Dutchman newspaper report says that the murderer would also be involved in the crime of trafficking of girls from Thailand.

"He pulled the child from Thailand to take them to Holland, dancers supposed to work, but then sold for $ 13,000 for prostitution," the report said.

In turn, Ricardo Flores said his daughter had disappeared three days, but really all that time was dead inside the hotel room Groove.

The broker pointed out that at midnight on Sunday May 30, spoke with Stephany.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-02/ontractualidad1092457.html

[billb's daughter]

Holloway Suspect Eyed in Peru Murder

HOUSTON - There's a manhunt for the main suspect in Natalee Holloway's disappearance. Joran Van der Sloot is now wanted for murder in a different case.

Exactly five years to the day Holloway went missing, a young woman has been found murdered in Peru.

Reports say Stephany Flores, 21, was stabbed to death in a hotel room registered under Van der Sloot's name. The Dutchman was in Peru for a poker tournament.

He apparently can be seen with Flores in a video taken at a Lima casino early Sunday hours before her body was found.

Tim Miller, the founder of Texas EquuSearch, says he's not entirely surprised Van der Sloot is a suspect.

Miller talked to Van der Sloot while his volunteers were in Aruba searching for Holloway.

"Joran was very, very arrogant. He was a sociopath. He controlled his entire family. If Joran Van der Sloot would have been in prison where he deserved to be, we would not have another murdered girl," said Miller.

Miller hasn't given up hope Holloway's body will be found. He wants to raise enough money to go back to Aruba with a remote underwater vehicle.

"I think we've always known and always felt as though Natalee has been put in a container taken out to sea and dumped in the sea," said Miller.

Miller says he's disgusted with Aruban authorities for not arresting Van der Sloot sooner, and for the first time is supporting a boycott of the country.

It's believed Van der Sloot is on the run in Chile. His attorney cautioned Van der Sloot has been "falsely accused of murder before" and urged the public not to rush to judgment.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/100602-holloway-suspect-eyed-in-peru-murder

Miller says he's disgusted with Aruban authorities for not arresting Van der Sloot sooner, and for the first time is supporting a boycott of the country.
I agree that Tim Miller is truly an American Hero (compliments to Rob).
I hope if there is any doubt in Tim Miller's mind on the happenings wrt the persistence efforts and what I believe was the persistence betrayal that allowed aruba to prevent Natalee's return to her family....that Tim will come forward to shed light on that event......

[Keepthefaith]

BILLB

[billb's daughter]

Atlanta Investigator Hopes for New Leads in Holloway Case

This weekend marked the five year anniversary of the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway. The Atlanta private investigator hired by Holloway's family to help find the truth said Wednesday that he hopes this latest case involving Joran van der Sloot will take them in the right direction.

Peruvian police said the young Dutchman who was twice arrested in the 2005 disappearance of Holloway is now a suspect in the slaying of a Peruvian woman.

Chief of detectives Col. Miguel Canlla said police are seeking van der Sloot in the Sunday killing of 21-year-old Stephany Flores in a Lima hotel.

The girl’s father, Ricardo Flores, says van der Sloot appeared with his daughter in video taken at a Lima casino early Sunday.

Police say they are seeking to confirm van der Sloot’s identity with the Dutch Embassy.

Peruvian immigration officials said van der Sloot departed Peru on Monday.

Private investigator TJ Ward said he hoped the Peru case will shed more light on the Holloway case. Ward said that if van der Sloot is involved in the new murder, he may have nothing to lose by telling the truth about what happened to Holloway.

Ward said he talked to the Holloway family and is reaching out to the Peru victim's family.

A spokeswoman for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty, said the family is aware of the latest developments but have no comment.

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/atlanta-investigator-hopes-for-new-leads-in-holloway-case-060210

Private investigator TJ Ward said he hoped the Peru case will shed more light on the Holloway case. Ward said that if van der Sloot is involved in the new murder, he may have nothing to lose by telling the truth about what happened to Holloway.

If Natalee is going to get justice....urine needs to be taken alive.....if not, we may never know the truth......
And I want to know that urine is rotting in a Peruvian jail for the rest of his life...

[TURBOTHINK]

Van der Sloot is headed to either Africa where he can't be extradited. He also may be going to Cuba as his father traveled there and he may have contacts there.

[TURBOTHINK]

Makes you wonder how many others have died that no one even knows about. He was always just way to calm about the whole thing to suit me. My first thought was "his father won't get him out of this one."  I have always wondered if his father was involved but I guess this one is all his................

[billb's daughter]

I bet he has his laptop with him. Hard to tell who he is contacting.

If Joran is still in deep mourning for his Dad (which he probably is) and with the anniversary of Natalee going missing, was it just too much for him and Joran went off the deep end?

 

I don't think urine is in deep mourning for his dad or anyone but himself......MOO...
I think at the end of the day urine will be tied to other murders over the last 5 years....on May 30th.....

[Northern Rose]

Dozens of relatives and friends attending the funeral of Flores Stephany (with video)

Lima Mayor Luis Castaneda, former regional president of Callao, Alex Kouri, and the Minister Rafael Rey attended the funeral in a church in Groove

With the presence of his father, entrepreneur and race car driver, Ricardo Flores, family, friends and classmates, the remnants of the young Stephany Flores Ramirez (21) are veiled in the Holy Name of Jesus parish in Groove.

She disappeared last Friday and was eventually found dead in a hotel room early Wednesday TAC, the main suspect in the crime Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (22), who already had history.

Stephany's body was removed from the Morgue of Lima this evening and later his relatives paid tribute at a funeral Mass at his home in Chacarilla.

The funeral was also attended by the candidate for mayor of Lima, Alex Kouri Lima Mayor Luis Castaneda, Defense Minister, Rafael Rey and Henry Bradley racer, said the radio station RPP.

It was learned further that the victim's remains would be buried Thursday in a cemetery located in La Molina.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/488978/decenas-familiares-amigos-acuden-al-velorio-stephany-flores

[Keepthefaith]

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY/STEPHANY FLORES

GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH

I DO!

[Northern Rose]

Dutchman is prime suspect

Yesterday police found the lifeless body of a 21-year-old in room 309 of the TAC hotel, located in block 60 of the Republic of Panama Avenue, in Miraflores, after the housing management staff would know the room was abandoned by its occupant registration, a foreigner, two days ago, but his companion was not.

Hotel staff called police upon finding the body of the young companion of the alien, half-naked and lying at the foot of the bed in the prone position. The victim was later identified as Flores Stephany Ramirez, who was reported missing Monday morning. Yesterday, we shuffled the option that she might have been abducted, it was the daughter of a businessman and race car driver, Ricardo S. Flores, however late Tuesday was ruled out this theory and began to handle the hypothesis of murder, which hours later was found.

It seems that the murderer of the young Stephany Flores Ramirez would be the citizen Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, 23 years old, who came to our country last May 14 on a flight from Colombia.

After the survey the room by staff Homicide Criminal Investigation Department (Dirincri), at noon at the headquarters there was a press conference where General Cesar Guardia gave details of what happened, indicating that the crime was would have perpetrated the early hours of May 30th. "The hotel management staff recorded income TAC Joran van der Sloot, on Monday 30, at 5:30 pm with a young woman. Both came to walk to the building and entered the room. Then, at 8:45 am the Dutchman left the room and said he would return, but carried a suitcase. It was not until the next day when the staff realizes that the companion of the alien had not left the room, so call and no response to enter, was in an advanced state of decomposition, "said the officer, head of the Dirincri.

Also detailed the preliminary forensic report said the woman had died from severe trauma to the skull. In addition, she had lacerations on the body, and bruises on his face, as well as bruising to the head, so it is presumed that the killing blows. Police have ruled it has been violated.

According to initial investigations the two youths would have known at the Atlantic City casino, located in Miraflores, where it was to develop a poker contest, in which the Dutchman was to participate. The casino security cameras record them both at various times, police sources detailed.

http://www.diariolaprimeraperu.com/online/policial/holandes-es-principal-sospechoso_63588.html

[billb's daughter]

BILLB

Still here Keepthefaith.....We will see Justice for Natalee!
so sad that urine was roaming free..........aruba...that is on YOU..........
Saw a clip on local San Diego news tonight with Steve Cohen in the background when urine was released........Steve baby....we won't forget your role either.......Blood is on their hands....

[Northern Rose]

Modus operandi of Joran Van Der Sloot would be the same in crimes of American young Stephany Flores (with video)
The Peruvian victim's father, Ricardo Flores, explained that her daughter died "savagely beaten and stabbed no


The modus operandi of the Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot to kill the young Stephany Flores would have been the same he would have also ended the lives of American Natalee Holloway in Aruba, 2005.

According to the Peruvian victim's father, businessman Ricardo Flores, the actions of Van Der Sloot is meeting with women in casinos, get drunk and kill them.

But "here was almost similar with the difference that has not drunk, but was drugged," she said of her daughter.

Unaware that his daughter went to a Casino
The race car also known as 'Rifle', reiterated that his only daughter was reunited with her friends moments before the crime and said not to have communicated with her when she was in a casino, a fact which he learned through police investigation.

Stephany also specifies that died not stabbed, but "savagely beaten" by the Dutchman.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/489051/modus-operandi-joran-van-der-sloot-seria-mismo-crimenes-stephany-flores-joven-estadounidense

[crazybabyborg]

He paid 870 thousand suns for a ride to Tacna
 
The Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (23), alleged murderer of Stephany Flores, fled through Arica paying the driver a thousand suns 870 Jhong Aparcana Pisconte Oswaldo, who moved from Ica to Tacna, with a particular service.

The driver, who was driving the truck plate Minivan RF-3047, surrendered its manifestation in the DIVINCRI-Ica, where it was crossing the border with Chile next to the Netherlands on Monday.

On the other hand, it was learned that the alien arrived in Peru from Colombia on 14 May and was registered under his name and passport No. NWJ77F425.

Meanwhile, a Dutchman newspaper report says that the murderer would also be involved in the crime of trafficking of girls from Thailand.

"He pulled the child from Thailand to take them to Holland, dancers supposed to work, but then sold for $ 13,000 for prostitution," the report said.

In turn, Ricardo Flores said his daughter had disappeared three days, but really all that time was dead inside the hotel room Groove.

The broker pointed out that at midnight on Sunday May 30, spoke with Stephany.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-02/ontractualidad1092457.html

I can't find a currency conversion for "suns". Is that the right term?