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« Reply #220 on: June 03, 2010, 02:03:13 AM »

 He said the taxi driver who exclusively took him from Nazca
Joran Van de Sloot would be looking towards Santiago de Chile
 
 | CPN RADIO - 03 JUN | The Dutchman Joran van de Sloot, accused of murdering the young Stephany Flores, was looking to get to Santiago de Chile, after traveling from Nazca to Tacna on 30 May.

He revealed exclusively to CPN Radio, the driver John Aparcana who moved more than 1500 new soles abroad.

During the program Taximanía, Aparcana Piscote revealed that Van de Sloot was nervous and kept Furman.

He said that the Highway Patrol intercepted his vehicle as he drove towards Tacna - along with his brother and another friend - but was not asked to identify their passengers.


http://www.cpnradio.pe/html/2010/06/03/11/1316.htm
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« Reply #221 on: June 03, 2010, 02:06:44 AM »

Another girl, and then Joran
But what if he is innocent?

Joran - his last name you do not even have to mention, everyone knows who you're talking about - is another topic of conversation. Five years after the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba, where he would have something to do, it was announced yesterday that Joran is the prime suspect of the murder of 21-year-old Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez in Peru. He is a fugitive, and would sit in Chile.

The tweets about Joran now flows in on Twitter:
BeccaNvk: "Wow, You Would Think Would girls stop hanging out with Joran Van Der Sloot, he kinda Has a track record."
Nibbit88: "What an idiot that Joran van der Sloot saying, sir murdered another young and innocent girl! I hope they catch him, Aargh! "
LifeofLieke: "How Can It Be That Joran van der Sloot travels so much? Does (alleged) murder That pay well? "
Franque89: "Let them that Joran van der Sloot # PLEASE quickly shut!"

Innocent until proven guilty, Joran seems not to apply. Well, Tatiana's hotel room in Lima was in his name and they are seen together. And everyone remembers the confession about Natalee disappearance that he was two years ago for the hidden camera did in the program by Peter R. de Vries, although under the influence of marijuana, and he later denied. In March this year, Joran in a broadcast by RTL 5 Terror Jaap again with a different story, but the Chief Aruba saw this primarily an attempt to evade prosecution.
 
But what if he is innocent? What if Tatiana stabbed by someone else?

Ok, it is again a young girl, there is again a casino involved and it takes place in an exotic location off AGAIN. And it is again Joran.

But nothing was proven.

http://www.nrcnext.nl/blog/2010/06/03/weer-een-meisje-en-weer-joran/
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« Reply #222 on: June 03, 2010, 02:10:20 AM »

He paid 870 thousand suns for a ride to Tacna
 
The Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (23), alleged murderer of Stephany Flores, fled through Arica paying the driver a thousand suns 870 Jhong Aparcana Pisconte Oswaldo, who moved from Ica to Tacna, with a particular service.

The driver, who was driving the truck plate Minivan RF-3047, surrendered its manifestation in the DIVINCRI-Ica, where it was crossing the border with Chile next to the Netherlands on Monday.

On the other hand, it was learned that the alien arrived in Peru from Colombia on 14 May and was registered under his name and passport No. NWJ77F425.

Meanwhile, a Dutchman newspaper report says that the murderer would also be involved in the crime of trafficking of girls from Thailand.

"He pulled the child from Thailand to take them to Holland, dancers supposed to work, but then sold for $ 13,000 for prostitution," the report said.

In turn, Ricardo Flores said his daughter had disappeared three days, but really all that time was dead inside the hotel room Groove.

The broker pointed out that at midnight on Sunday May 30, spoke with Stephany.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-02/ontractualidad1092457.html

I can't find a currency conversion for "suns". Is that the right term?
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I think NEW SOL (Peruvian currency)
306122.44070 US Dollar
870K to US dollars:
http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=%2fPENUS
I can't believe he paid $306K...maybe $30K? probably $3K?
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« Reply #223 on: June 03, 2010, 02:11:04 AM »

OH ROBOTS!!!! IF YOU'RE AROUND, I HAVE A FRESH CIGAR FOR YOU AND WOULD LOVE TO SHARE A PUFF WITH YOU!!!!!      <grin>

This is such a weird emotion for me. I'm angry that Aruba allowed and enabled Joran to harm anyone else. This is such a tragedy for that poor girl and her family! It was so preventable! My heart breaks for them!

I'm also exhilerated that Joran seems just on the brink of being held accountable! I'm happy to see the Renho's of this world squirm and twist. I'm worried for Beth because I know that the manner of death for Natalie has to be on her mind and she has to wonder if it was similar to this girl's. I don't know......... this is just hard. More than anything this is just so, so sad and tragic!
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« Reply #224 on: June 03, 2010, 02:12:44 AM »

He paid 870 thousand suns for a ride to Tacna
 
The Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (23), alleged murderer of Stephany Flores, fled through Arica paying the driver a thousand suns 870 Jhong Aparcana Pisconte Oswaldo, who moved from Ica to Tacna, with a particular service.

The driver, who was driving the truck plate Minivan RF-3047, surrendered its manifestation in the DIVINCRI-Ica, where it was crossing the border with Chile next to the Netherlands on Monday.

On the other hand, it was learned that the alien arrived in Peru from Colombia on 14 May and was registered under his name and passport No. NWJ77F425.

Meanwhile, a Dutchman newspaper report says that the murderer would also be involved in the crime of trafficking of girls from Thailand.

"He pulled the child from Thailand to take them to Holland, dancers supposed to work, but then sold for $ 13,000 for prostitution," the report said.

In turn, Ricardo Flores said his daughter had disappeared three days, but really all that time was dead inside the hotel room Groove.

The broker pointed out that at midnight on Sunday May 30, spoke with Stephany.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-02/ontractualidad1092457.html

I can't find a currency conversion for "suns". Is that the right term?
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I think NEW SOL (Peruvian currency)
306122.44070 US Dollar
870K to US dollars:
http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=%2fPENUS
I can't believe he paid $306K...maybe $30K? probably $3K?


AH!! Thank you billb!! I felt silly asking, but that never stops me for long!!  Very Happy
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« Reply #225 on: June 03, 2010, 02:18:18 AM »

He paid 870 thousand suns for a ride to Tacna
 
The Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (23), alleged murderer of Stephany Flores, fled through Arica paying the driver a thousand suns 870 Jhong Aparcana Pisconte Oswaldo, who moved from Ica to Tacna, with a particular service.

The driver, who was driving the truck plate Minivan RF-3047, surrendered its manifestation in the DIVINCRI-Ica, where it was crossing the border with Chile next to the Netherlands on Monday.

On the other hand, it was learned that the alien arrived in Peru from Colombia on 14 May and was registered under his name and passport No. NWJ77F425.

Meanwhile, a Dutchman newspaper report says that the murderer would also be involved in the crime of trafficking of girls from Thailand.

"He pulled the child from Thailand to take them to Holland, dancers supposed to work, but then sold for $ 13,000 for prostitution," the report said.

In turn, Ricardo Flores said his daughter had disappeared three days, but really all that time was dead inside the hotel room Groove.

The broker pointed out that at midnight on Sunday May 30, spoke with Stephany.

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-02/ontractualidad1092457.html

I can't find a currency conversion for "suns". Is that the right term?
CBB
I think NEW SOL (Peruvian currency)
306122.44070 US Dollar
870K to US dollars:
http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=%2fPENUS
I can't believe he paid $306K...maybe $30K? probably $3K?

"Joran paid tons to come to Peru"
(AP) - Joran van der Sloot paid two brothers converted 226 000 euros to get him to Peru. That the brothers who run a shuttle service, Peruvian radio station RPP Noticias against said. Van der Sloot is suspected of the murder of 21-year-old daughter of a businessman and race car driver in the Peruvian capital Lima.

http://www.trouw.nl/nieuws/nederland/article3085130.ece/_Joran_betaalde_tonnen_om_Peru_uit_te_komen_.html
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« Reply #226 on: June 03, 2010, 02:18:32 AM »

OH ROBOTS!!!! IF YOU'RE AROUND, I HAVE A FRESH CIGAR FOR YOU AND WOULD LOVE TO SHARE A PUFF WITH YOU!!!!!      <grin>

This is such a weird emotion for me. I'm angry that Aruba allowed and enabled Joran to harm anyone else. This is such a tragedy for that poor girl and her family! It was so preventable! My heart breaks for them!

I'm also exhilerated that Joran seems just on the brink of being held accountable! I'm happy to see the Renho's of this world squirm and twist. I'm worried for Beth because I know that the manner of death for Natalie has to be on her mind and she has to wonder if it was similar to this girl's. I don't know......... this is just hard. More than anything this is just so, so sad and tragic!
Silly CBB.... Smile
Robots is busy fixing the oil leak BP left for the Gulf coast......
If Robots does come back....I'd love to help you light his cigar!
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« Reply #227 on: June 03, 2010, 02:20:27 AM »

Joran van der Sloot on suspicion of murder Peruvian

UPDATE LIMA - Joran van der Sloot is suspected the 21-year-old Stephany Ramirez Tatiana Flores, daughter of a Peruvian businessman, have been killed in the Peruvian capital Lima. The woman was found Wednesday morning dead in a hotel room. Van der Sloot was the last person in her family saw her alive, Peruvian media reported.

Two brothers converted the Dutchman paid 226 000 euros to get him to Peru. That the brothers who run a shuttle service, Peruvian radio station RPP Noticias against said.

The girl was dead in a hotel room Wednesday found that Van der Sloot would be hired. She was probably killed Sunday. Van der Sloot left Sunday around noon with a shuttle service from the brothers from the Peruvian Nazca place.
 
Monday they would have arrived in the Chilean city of Arica.
The suspect, according to the brothers wore shorts, white sneakers and had two suitcases with him. They hardly talked to him because he does not know the language.
 
Van der Sloot, the murdered girl in a casino in the Miraflores district have come to know. He was there for a poker tournament. The woman was killed by police with stab wounds. Stephany had been missing since Friday.
 
His lawyer in New York, Joe Taco Pina says he does not know where his client. He would have had no contact with him. However he warns that not too quick on Van der Sloot must be considered. "He has already been unjustly accused."

The father of murdered woman took on Peruvian television an emotional appeal to the authorities to quickly address the offender.

Leaving the casino together
Camera images would have us that they left the casino together. Stephany had been missing since Friday. The lifeless body of the victim was on the street Tac Hotel Republica de Panama found.

Peruvian media reported that Van der Sloot on May 14 Peru entered. He would again have left Peru May 31 and are now in Chile.
 
According to a spokesperson for the Public Prosecutor (OM) in Aruba, Joran van der Sloot is a fugitive. He is now internationally identified through Interpol.

Natalee Holloway
Joran van der Sloot is still suspected of involvement in the death of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005.

Joran told inter alia that her body was dumped into the sea on the beach after she was deceased. He was in this case several times detained. (AP / MV / AK / LB)

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1012/Binnenland/article/detail/487654/2010/06/02/Joran-van-der-Sloot-verdacht-van-moord-op-Peruaanse.dhtml
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« Reply #228 on: June 03, 2010, 02:23:21 AM »

I want to know where Urine gets the money for all of his International travel. This is yet another case of parents enabling a horrible monster that continues to prey upon innocent lives.
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« Reply #229 on: June 03, 2010, 02:23:25 AM »

Who saw Joran to last? by our internet editor

AMSTERDAM - The Dutch national Joran van der Sloot, who now wanted by Interpol as the main suspect in the murder of 21-year-old Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez, remains a fugitive. He was currently staying in Chile. Have you recently had contact with Joran van der Sloot, or have you recently seen him or spoken in Peru or Chile, please contact the editor of our newspaper.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6850161/__Wie_zag_Joran_voor_het_laatst___.html?sn=binnenland
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« Reply #230 on: June 03, 2010, 02:25:06 AM »

Arica, Chile is a port city.  Wonder if Joran left by sea?

I read that Interpol has warned Chile not to let Joran leave Chile....but that warning was issued on Wednesday and Joran was in Arica long before that...so no one was looking for him.

He could have left by sea without any hinderance.  Hmmm....

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« Reply #231 on: June 03, 2010, 02:25:16 AM »

Good Night Good Monkeys....
Justice for Natalee is just around the corner......
urine is toast........paulass is burnt toast.....
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« Reply #232 on: June 03, 2010, 02:25:50 AM »

CBB, I made sure Robots knew about this and hoped he would stop by.  But at least he knows and is monitoring it all.  I haven't checked the front page to see if he has posted there or not but maybe he will come by tomorrow.
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« Reply #233 on: June 03, 2010, 02:29:29 AM »

Hate to go to sleep for fear they will catch Joran and I will miss it!

But will give it a try anyway.  I hope we all awaken to Joran arrested by Interpol and fully in custody back in Peru where he will be made to stand trial. 
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« Reply #234 on: June 03, 2010, 02:31:16 AM »

Hate to go to sleep for fear they will catch Joran and I will miss it!

But will give it a try anyway.  I hope we all awaken to Joran arrested by Interpol and fully in custody back in Peru where he will be made to stand trial. 

I am in the same place.  Waiting for an article that says he was caught or they left a tail of pieces of him as they were tying to catch him
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« Reply #235 on: June 03, 2010, 02:32:52 AM »

Anyone still awake?
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« Reply #236 on: June 03, 2010, 02:35:00 AM »

Murderer Dutchman is wanted in Chile
Stephany Flores was found dead in hotel room where he was staying abroad, who fled the Southern country. Police in both countries makes the coordination to catch. Author: ANA BRICEÑO
CompartirEnviar.La last time her parents saw her alive was the last Saturday afternoon. At that time, Stephany Tatiana Ramirez Flores, 21, took his leave saying he would come out with some friends and would return at night, but never returned to his home in Santiago de Surco. At dawn yesterday, was found dead in a hotel room of Miraflores.

Until Tuesday night, his father, Ricardo Flores racer Chipoco, kept the hope that her daughter was alive. Even thought it might be a kidnapping. However, yesterday, at 00:40 of the day, the corpse of Business Administration student was found with multiple blows to the face and body.

"I was in the prone position, thrown on the floor of the bedroom. He had no signs of having been raped. The autopsy showed cervical cranial trauma. That is, was killed with severe blows below the neck and punching, "said an expert from the Homicide Division Dirincri.

In room 309 of the TAC hotel, located in the Republic of Panama Avenue 6160, had a double bed and clothes in disarray, and the mattress was out of place.

FATAL ENCOUNTER. The only suspect in the crime is the Dutchman Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot, 22, who was locked in that room since 14 May when the country came from Colombia, to participate in an international poker tournament.

That Saturday, Stephany joined the Atlantic City casino, in Miraflores. The victim liked to play poker. It was in that place where she met her murderer, but police have not ruled that related days earlier.

"At 5 am on Sunday entered the hotel TAC in the van of the girl and, at 8:45 am, the Dutchman retired with a suitcase. He left the car in Groove "said Gen. Cesar Guardia, head of the Dirincri. A hotel employee was the one who gave notice of the discovery of the body, which was in a state of decomposition. She told police she saw the stranger entering the girl.

Escaped. The Directorate of Migration reported that Joran Andreas Petrus Van Der Sloot crossed the border into Chile on Monday 31 May. Ica Some drivers were told that the alien suns S/.1500 paid over to take him to Arica. The Chilean Investigative Police confirmed that the Dutchman is in his country, although there is as no. Interpol also works to stop overseas.

http://peru21.pe/impresa/noticia/asesino-holandes-buscado-chile/2010-06-03/276535
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« Reply #237 on: June 03, 2010, 02:35:40 AM »

5000.0 PEN = 1765.15 USD

Sooooo, that means that he paid: 174 x 5000.0 PEN to equal 870,000

therefore you would need to also multiply 1765.15 times 174. right?

That equals 307,136.10 (MONKEY SHOCK)!! DANG! Did I do that right???

Here's where I did the conversion to get the 5000.0 PEN = 1765.15 USD:

http://pen.cer24.com/usd/?q=5000
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« Reply #238 on: June 03, 2010, 02:36:58 AM »

Good Night Good Monkeys....
Justice for Natalee is just around the corner......
urine is toast........paulass is burnt toast.....

LOL!! Night billb! Sleep well and God Bless!
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« Reply #239 on: June 03, 2010, 02:40:06 AM »

Chilean Police: Joran Van Der Sloot is still in Arica
Chilean police are searching the young Dutchman, who is the prime suspect in the murder of the young Peruvian Stephany Flores, daughter of the businessman and racer Ricardo Flores.

Chilean police are searching the Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (23), prime suspect in the murder of the Peruvian Stephany Flores, daughter of businessman and racer Ricardo Flores, who fled by road to the Chilean city of Arica.

"We have deployed our security devices primarily in the Region XV. We have provided staffing at the checkpoint of which, we believe that is still in the region," said Douglas Rodriguez, head of the Arica-Parinacota police region.

Dutchman reiterated that Chile joined the afternoon of 31 May by the Chacalluta complex in a vehicle driven by two Peruvian citizens who returned home around 18:00.

Rodriguez said that information provided by bus companies and air, realize that the youth has not left the region.

"We have a strict control Whose sector (south of Arica) and we are also coordinated with the other regions, mainly in Iquique and Antofagasta where border control is also to Argentina and Bolivia", he said.

Rodriguez explained that the Chilean authorities have a location request of Van Der Sloot's whereabouts, but may not be arrested "because there is no international legal requirement, nor at the country level."

"The work we do is to be located, that put him to control migration and to determine your home with surveillance pending the Peruvian authorities to decide," ended.

The Dutchman is the main suspect in the murder of the young Flores Ramirez (21), whose body was found early Wednesday at a hotel in Lima district of Miraflores.

"We have footage and witness statements that were entering the Netherlands with the victim" at the hotel, said Gen. Cesar Guardia, head of the Criminal Investigation Department (Dirincri) of Peru.

"A hotel employee heard no screams, but saw them entering together," added Vasquez Guard.

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2010-06-03-policia-chilena-joran-van-der-sloot-aun-se-encuentra-en-arica-noticia_269565.html
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