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« Reply #320 on: June 03, 2010, 10:18:08 AM »

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Joran has to watch his back from former friends as well as his many enemies. There is a house of cards in Aruba, everyone was in on the coverup, Police, Government, Prosecuter, and many locals. They would hate for Joran to tell what he knows, it will expose them and ruin there lives and probably Aruba. Sad thing is there are some good innocent people in Aruba who have been taken for a ride. I went down there 3 times to help search for Natalee. The coverup was from the very beginning, and yes, a lot of those liars are now going to pay. Joran would be safer in Peru right now than anywhere else, at least there he knows what to expect. I feel certain a lot of people want him dead today. Get smart Joran, GIVE UP.
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« Reply #321 on: June 03, 2010, 10:18:16 AM »

I don't know if this is true, found it on google news:



First paid for transportation of 1,500 soles to Nasca Ica and then paid 280 soles to be taken to Arica, Chile. That was how would the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot left the country, Alleged murderer of the young Stephany Flores, Daughter of businessman and racer Ricardo Flores.

This happened last Sunday, according to Oswaldo Aparcana, taxi driver responsible for transporting the Nasca Dutchman who observed it and a lot of nervousness manifested in the constant consumption of cigarettes.
Pisconte Aparcana also told that the suspect was wearing shorts and white sneakers, and was in possession of two suitcases.

“We have left Nasca at 12 pm or so and have come to Arica at four in the afternoon of Monday,” he told RPP radio station.

He added that Van der Sloot also had a ticket to Cusco, where he apparently was going to run on Sunday, but that ultimately failed to do.
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« Reply #322 on: June 03, 2010, 10:19:13 AM »

Joran admitted the murder to a poker friend.
He said he killed her because he wanted media attention.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6853587/__Joran_bekende_moord_aan_pokervriend__.html

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Bullshit.... he killed her because he is a sick freak.
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« Reply #323 on: June 03, 2010, 10:20:53 AM »

Joran admitted the murder to a poker friend.
He said he killed her because he wanted media attention.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6853587/__Joran_bekende_moord_aan_pokervriend__.html

This report various sources in the circle of friends of Joran.  The meanwhile to Chili fled Van of the Ditch would have had past Tuesday contact with a Dutch poker friend.  At him will Joran told that he the girl with a knife round the life have brought.
Following the murder of Stephany would Joran pathological need for media attention have been. The girl was stabbed Sunday in Lima and was found murdered in a hotel room. That room was in the name of Joran. Sunday was exactly five years ago in Aruba Natalee Holloway disappeared.
Joran had also single weeks ago yet contact with Jaap Amesz (Terror Jaap).  On that moment will he self yet in Venezuela found.  "Joran will there on that moment properly through sat.  He told Jaap that he went around with plans itself of the life to rob", according to an inaugurated
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Joran had a few weeks ago to contact Jaap Amesz (Terror Jaap). At that time he would still have existed in Venezuela. "Joran was at that time through properly have been. He told Jaap he walked around with plans to deprive himself of life," said one insider.
 
Jaap Amesz would not answer questions about his alleged recent contact with Joran

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6853587/__Joran_bekende_moord_aan_pokervriend__.html
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« Reply #324 on: June 03, 2010, 10:21:03 AM »

Chilean police searching the Dutchman Joran Van Der Sloot (23), prime suspect in the murder of the Peruvian Stephany Flores, daughter of businessman and racer Ricardo Flores, who fled by road to the Chilean city of Arica. Joran Van Der Sloot, entered Peru on May 14, from Colombia, and left the country on 31 May .

“We have deployed our security devices primarily in the Region XV. We have provided staffing at the checkpoint of which, we believe that is still in the region,” said Douglas Rodriguez, head of the Arica-Parinacota police region.
Rodriguez said that information provided by bus companies and air, realize that the youth has not left the region.
“We have a strict control Whose sector (south of Arica) and we are also coordinated with the other regions, mainly in Iquique and Antofagasta where border control is also to Argentina and Bolivia”, he said.

Rodriguez explained that the Chilean authorities have a location request of Van Der Sloot’s whereabouts, but may not be arrested “because there is no international legal requirement, nor at the country level.”

“The work we do is to be located, that put him to control migration and to determine your home with surveillance pending the Peruvian authorities to decide,” ended.

The Dutchman is the main suspect in the murder of the young Flores Ramirez (21), whose body was found early Wednesday at a hotel in Lima district of Miraflores.

“We have footage and witness statements that were entering the Netherlands with the victim” at the hotel, said Gen. Cesar Guardia, head of the Criminal Investigation Department (Dirincri) of Peru.

“A hotel employee heard no screams, but saw them entering together,” added Vasquez Guard.
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« Reply #325 on: June 03, 2010, 10:23:17 AM »

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Joran has to watch his back from former friends as well as his many enemies. There is a house of cards in Aruba, everyone was in on the coverup, Police, Government, Prosecuter, and many locals. They would hate for Joran to tell what he knows, it will expose them and ruin there lives and probably Aruba. Sad thing is there are some good innocent people in Aruba who have been taken for a ride. I went down there 3 times to help search for Natalee. The coverup was from the very beginning, and yes, a lot of those liars are now going to pay. Joran would be safer in Peru right now than anywhere else, at least there he knows what to expect. I feel certain a lot of people want him dead today. Get smart Joran, GIVE UP.

Stupid, running, sweaty sporter....I'd be surprised to see the SOB give up..
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« Reply #326 on: June 03, 2010, 10:23:58 AM »

i was hoping to wake up this morning and find out they had caught him.
i thought i was going to gag after seeing joe tacopina on gma. glad robin wouldn't let him off the hook!

Morning the cuz and all!  I too was hoping to hear first thing that the animal had been caught. Where the hell is he? Who is helping him hide!!
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« Reply #327 on: June 03, 2010, 10:25:02 AM »

Sorry about the server downtime.  It is actually set to go down and clear out stuff so it won't totally crash.

thanks Klaas!
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« Reply #328 on: June 03, 2010, 10:25:39 AM »

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 Who saw Joran to last?

AMSTERDAM - LONDON - The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who now wanted by Interpol as the main suspect in the murder of 21-year-old Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez, remains a fugitive.  He was currently staying in Chile.  Have you recently had contact with Joran van der Sloot, or have you recently seen him or spoken in Peru or Chile, please contact the editor of our newspaper.

http://tinyurl.com/HAVE-YOU-SEEN-JORAN

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« Reply #329 on: June 03, 2010, 10:26:28 AM »

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« Reply #330 on: June 03, 2010, 10:27:24 AM »

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Submitted on 2010/06/03 at 9:14am

Joran has to watch his back from former friends as well as his many enemies. There is a house of cards in Aruba, everyone was in on the coverup, Police, Government, Prosecuter, and many locals. They would hate for Joran to tell what he knows, it will expose them and ruin there lives and probably Aruba. Sad thing is there are some good innocent people in Aruba who have been taken for a ride. I went down there 3 times to help search for Natalee. The coverup was from the very beginning, and yes, a lot of those liars are now going to pay. Joran would be safer in Peru right now than anywhere else, at least there he knows what to expect. I feel certain a lot of people want him dead today. Get smart Joran, GIVE UP.

Stupid, running, sweaty sporter....I'd be surprised to see the SOB give up..

Maybe we'll even see some more 'incidents': desperate needs lead to desperate deeds.
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« Reply #331 on: June 03, 2010, 10:28:10 AM »

view the location of this item Peruvian jail term likely for Joran if convictedPublished on 3 June 2010 - 12:15pm
Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who is now suspected of murdering a woman in Peru on Monday, is likely to be put on trial there if he is found and arrested in Chile or any other Latin American country, Law Professor Geert-Jan Knoops has told members of the press in Amsterdam.

Joran van der Sloot - already the main suspect in case of the disappearance of US teenager Natalee Holloway on the island of Aruba in 2005 - had rented the hotel room in Lima where 21-year old Stephany Tatiana Ramírez was found murdered on Monday.

In the professor's opinion, Joran's Dutch nationality does not grant him any protection in Peru, nor will the Netherlands ask for his extradition. "I asssume that Joran is the main suspect in the Peru murder case and that the Peruvian authorities will want to prosecute him. In that case, he is an ordinary suspect. All the Netherlands can do is give him consular assistance."

If Joran van der Sloot is convicted, he will have to serve his term in Peru, Professor Knoops says. There is no judicial treaty between Peru and the Netherlands which would allow the sentence to be served in a Dutch jail. An ad hoc transfer of the verdict to the Dutch legal system would be possible only after Joran had exhausted all appeal options in Peru. "That could take quite a long time," according to the International Law professor.

Meanwhile, the public prosecutor in Aruba - where Natalee Holloway disappeared five years ago - is still considering whether to prosecute Joran, although he has argued that there is insufficient evidence to launch a prosecution.

 
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« Reply #332 on: June 03, 2010, 10:30:35 AM »

FYI - heard from HAMMER

Hopefully he'll stop by today Smile

I'm so glad-was hoping he'd post!
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« Reply #333 on: June 03, 2010, 10:32:56 AM »

Sorry about the server downtime.  It is actually set to go down and clear out stuff so it won't totally crash.

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« Reply #334 on: June 03, 2010, 10:34:04 AM »

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Police Joran sits on the heels - UPDATE
LIMA - The crackdown on Joran van der Sloot is in full swing. The Chilean police would sit him on the heels of Arica. There have been roadblocks set up around the port, so that he could not escape.Against Van der Sloot is an international warrant for the murder of the 21-year-old daughter of businessman and racing driver Ricardo Flores. Stephany in Lima on Sunday with stab wounds have been killed and was found in a hotel room. That room was in the name of Joran.
Jan-Albert Hootsen, correspondent in Mexico, twittert that the Chilean police are currently looking at hotels and hostels to find the suspect. There are also decorated checkpoints. The Chief of Police Douglas Rodriguez believes that Joran is still around. According to Rodriguez, there is close contact with other police forces, like the border with Argentina and Bolivia. Arica is located 18 km south of the border with Peru and has 185,268 inhabitants.
Cause of death
According to an expert from the Homicide Division, there were no signs that the young woman was raped. However Peruvian media reported that her car "date-rape pills" have been found, such as GHB. Stephany is on the floor of the bedroom found. Initial reports reported death from stab wounds, but doctors say in various media that they covered in bruises and contusions Sat The cause of death was brain injury are.
A hotel representative says the sounds of fighting from room to have caught. On security cameras shows that Stephany and Joran were previously playing in the casino. Then they are seen as she went inside the hotel. Joran there about four hours later would have gone.
Flee
Joran van der Sloot has two Peruvian brothers almost 1800 Peruvian soles (about 500 euros) was paid to him from Peru to Chile to carry. The brothers Aparcana Pisconte told the Peruvian news RPP they transported him. They have a shuttle service company and brought Van der Sloot from Nazca, Peru to Arica in Chile, where they declared. This distance is approximately 1000 km.
Joran was wearing shorts, white sneakers and had two suitcases with him. The brothers said they have not talked to him because he did not speak the language. However he smoked one cigarette after another. He would soon have fallen asleep.
Suicide
Thursday rumors around, especially through Twitter, that Joran would have committed suicide. There is no official source that can confirm this. Also crime reporter Peter R. de Vries said on its website that the rumors surrounding the suicide "every groundless."
Joran arrived in Peru on May 14 with a flight from Colombia. Since then he stayed in a hotel in the Miraflores district. He said he did participate in an international poker tournament. If he is in South America is arrested and transferred to Peru, he awaits a criminal trial in that country.

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« Reply #335 on: June 03, 2010, 10:36:07 AM »

I've heard on an ABC report (that I can't find myself) that she was a lesbian. Maybe that's what set him off. Must have been one hell of a fight, with her injuries. Hard to believe no one heard anything.
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« Reply #336 on: June 03, 2010, 10:36:36 AM »

NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/03/hunt-for-a-killer-joran-van-der-sloot-suspect-in-second-murder-wanted-interpol-fugitive/

HUNT FOR A KILLER: JORAN VAN DER SLOOT SUSPECT IN SECOND MURDER WANTED INTERPOL FUGITIVE
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« Reply #337 on: June 03, 2010, 10:36:52 AM »

Regis stated that Joran was "exonerated" in Natalee's case!  UGGHHH...I wish he'd get his facts straight!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #338 on: June 03, 2010, 10:37:04 AM »

AP) - Joran van der Sloot said Tuesday at a Dutch poker friend announced his 21-year old daughter of a businessman and race car driver killed in the Peruvian capital Lima. The Times reported Thursday that according to sources in the Friends of Van der Sloot.

The girl, Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez was found Wednesday dead in a hotel room that Van der Sloot would be hired. They probably have been killed Sunday. Exactly five years earlier, on May 30, 2005, disappeared the 18-year-old Natalee Holloway in Aruba. In that case, Van der Sloot suspect.

Van der Sloot has since left Peru. He was a taxi driver the equivalent of some five hundred million paid to him to get out of Peru. Monday around 16.00 hours, he arrived in the Chilean city of Arica. Police in Chile is trying to track him down.

In an interview on the phone to van der Sloot on his poker friends have entrusted the girl with stab wounds to have killed. The occasion was the "pathological need" to media coverage of Van der Sloot have been.

A few weeks ago, Van der Sloot also have had contact with Jaap Amesz, also known as Terror Jaap from "The Golden Cage '. An insider claims that he would have told Amesz he walked around with plans to deprive himself of life. Amesz itself wants nothing to say about his recent alleged contact with Van der Sloot, because he does not compromise the police investigation would bring.

http://binnenland.nieuws.nl/598823/van_der_sloot_bekende_moord_aan_pokervriend
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« Reply #339 on: June 03, 2010, 10:38:50 AM »

Joran admitted the murder to a poker friend.
He said he killed her because he wanted media attention.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6853587/__Joran_bekende_moord_aan_pokervriend__.html

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Bullshit.... he killed her because he is a sick freak.

She probably laughed at his teeny weeny and set him off.  He'd never admit that.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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