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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 - 6/4/10
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Quote from: klaasend on June 03, 2010, 06:04:49 PM
OMG
Joran tried to extort money from Beth, when that failed he murdered Stephany on the 5 year anniversary to GET BACK AT BETH
OMG
Do you mean like it's all her fault ?
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Quote from: Curly on June 03, 2010, 05:02:33 PM
It's so disturbing to me that Stephany's cousin said that they recently discussed the Natalee Holloway case and Joran. Did she not know what he looked like? I can't see her going with him willingly. He had to have drugged her in the casino and then again in her car. This is so sad but hopefully will bring some kind of closure to both families who's lives he shattered.
Something is odd -- the fact that reports are that Stephany
really didn't go with boys
and also supposedly "date rape" drugs were found in her car.
Wreck - that may just be the most tactful thing I've seen posted here in 5 years! Thank you for that smile, I needed it!
I'm thinking that the loss of memory and control may have been the reason for the roofies.
If you watch the video that goes with the headline you will see that it is incorrect. Her cousin talked to his friend about him, not to Stephany about Joran.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 - 6/4/10
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Quote from: klaasend on June 03, 2010, 06:04:49 PM
OMG
Joran tried to extort money from Beth, when that failed he murdered Stephany on the 5 year anniversary to GET BACK AT BETH
OMG
That would explain why a devastated Beth & immediate family have been so quiet in addition to having to relive the horror all over again.
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Quote from: klaasend on June 03, 2010, 06:04:49 PM
OMG
Joran tried to extort money from Beth, when that failed he murdered Stephany on the 5 year anniversary to GET BACK AT BETH
OMG
So the 5 year anniversary was not coincidence but
PREMEDITATED
??????????????
Un-friggin' -believable!!!!!!!!!!!
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Quote from: klaasend on June 03, 2010, 06:04:49 PM
OMG
Joran tried to extort money from Beth, when that failed he murdered Stephany on the 5 year anniversary to GET BACK AT BETH
OMG
that failed too because now he has to serve at least 25 years in a Peruvian prison
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Quote from: klaasend on June 03, 2010, 06:04:49 PM
OMG
Joran tried to extort money from Beth, when that failed he murdered Stephany on the 5 year anniversary to GET BACK AT BETH
OMG
Althought IMO he would have done it anyway and could have possibly done it since Natalee.
Wester should just put jurin's picture under the word D%ck, POS, etc.
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Glenda wrote: "aruba's job was not to babysit Beth's daughter. Beth sent her daughter to swim with the sharks, she is responsible for what ever happened to Natalee." = there is no homicide in aruba, only SUICIDE. Don't go to aruba if you value your life.
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Quote from: wreck on June 03, 2010, 06:02:57 PM
I will repeat ---- don't bring Joran to the USA. I don't want him outside of Peru
EVER!
I agree. Let him serve out his sentence and THEN...badda bing...Alabama here we come (if he survives in the Peruvian prison).
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[Alabama charges van der Sloot with extortion in Holloway case
Posted: Jun 03, 2010 2:34 PM PDT
Updated: Jun 03, 2010 2:45 PM PDT
BIRMINGHAM, AL (WSFA) - The U. S. government has charged Joran van der Sloot with attempting to receive money in exchange for revealing the location of Natalee Holloway's body. Van der Sloot has long been suspected in the 2005 disappearance of Holloway in Aruba.
Chilean police say they have detained van der Sloot in connection with the murder of a woman in Peru.
Police spokeswoman Macarena Olivares says van der Sloot has been taken into custody in Chile's capital of Santiago. Five years to the date after Holloway disappeared, van der Sloot was the last person seen with a Peruvian woman found dead in a Lima hotel room.
Below is the complaint filed in U. S. District Court.
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ALABAMA
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT (Amended)
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
v. CASE NUMBER: MAG 1 0-117
JORAN VAN DER SLOOT,
defendant
I, William K. Bryan, the undersigned complainant, being duly sworn, state the following is true and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief: Count One
That on or about May 10, 20lO, the defendant, Joran van der Sloot, did obstruct, delay, and affect commerce and the movement of any article or commodity in commerce, by extortion and attempts to do so, in that, the defendant did knowingly and wilfully cause another person to wire transfer a partial payment of money ($15,000) from a financial institution in Birmingham, Alabama, to a financial institution in the Netherlands, after representing to the other person that he would provide the location ofNata lee Holloway's remains in Aruba and information regarding the circumstances of her death, upon receipt of $250,000 from the other person, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1951(a).
Count Two
That on or about May 10, 20 lO, the defendant, Joran van der Sioot, having devised or intending to devise any scheme and artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, did knowingly and with intent to defraud did knowingly and wilfully cause to be transmitted by means of wire communication in interstate and foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds, that being, a wire transfer in the amount of $15,000, from Birmingham, Alabama, to the Netherlands for the purpose of executing and attempting to execute such scheme and artifice, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1343.
I further state that I am a Special Agent with the Federal Bureau ofInvestigation, and that this complaint is based on the facts set forth in the affidavit, which is attached hereto and incorporated herein by reference.
See Attachment" A"
Sworn to before me and subscribed in my presence,
at Birmingham, Alabama Date
City and State
PAUL W. GREENE Chief United States Magistrate Judge
Name and Title of Judicial Officer PAUL W. GREENE FILED 2010 Jun-03 PM 03:46 U.S. DISTRICT COURT N.D. OF ALABAMA Case 2:10-mj-00117-PWG Document 8 Filed 06/03/10 Page 1 of 1
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 - 6/4/10
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CNN just reported on TV that an Alabama senator or lawyer has filed charges against jurin for extortion. something about jurin asked for $$$$ in exchange for the wherabouts of Natalee's remains!
Are you kidding?? When was this offer made, I wonder?
My thoughts exactly.
They should have gone along with it and then had him arrested for extortion (although I'm sure he was lying).
Wonder why this is just coming to light?
Extradite him for extortion and then cxharge him with murder of U.S. citizen. After all, how would he know where she was if he was not involved in putting her there. And we have the death penalty.
but the DP will get him 20 years of appeals...I'd rather he rot in a prison in Peru.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 - 6/4/10
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US Attorney said that they have a Wire Fraud case against Joran.
Investigation has been ongoing for 4 weeks...coincidence on the arrest in Chili.
She said that he provided false information as to where Natalee's body was and
how she was killed. They are seeking to extridite him to Alabama for trial on the
Federal Wire Fraud charge.
Jug was on CBS/42. He looked really good. He said that the blood of Stephany
is squarely on Van der Straaten's shoulders. He is the one who waylaid the investigation
and allowed Joran to walk free.
Jug said that he hopes that Peru will take Joran to a prison and beat the hell out of
him until he tells everything he knows about both murders.
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Wonder what Richard Gere will talk about while anita drives him to the aruban (murder island Inc) film fest!
Anyone remember the date? Soon, I think.
Hey Klaas.
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Quote from: klaasend on June 03, 2010, 06:04:49 PM
OMG
Joran tried to extort money from Beth, when that failed he murdered Stephany on the 5 year anniversary to GET BACK AT BETH
OMG
that failed too because now he has to serve at least 25 years in a Peruvian prison
Joran won't last 10 DAYS in a Peruvian prison. He will be "offed".
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I'm sick. Not much gets to me but I'm sitting here with tears running down my face. I can't believe that such monsters exist.
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I am sitting here shaking my head............I feel so bad for Beth, Dave and Jug.........for all of Natalee's family..........this must open the wound that can only be covered by a very thin scar.........the murder and now the release of the extortion plan.......how do they remain sane!?!?!?
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Quote from: NM on June 03, 2010, 06:10:30 PM
Wonder what Richard Gere will talk about while anita drives him to the aruban (murder island Inc) film fest!
Anyone remember the date? Soon, I think.
Hey Klaas.
Aruba International Film Festival will run June 4 to 11, 2010
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OMG
Joran tried to extort money from Beth, when that failed he murdered Stephany on the 5 year anniversary to GET BACK AT BETH
OMG
How do we know it was Beth ,Just asking>>
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I'm sick. Not much gets to me but I'm sitting here with tears running down my face. I can't believe that such monsters exist.
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CNN just reported on TV that an Alabama senator or lawyer has filed charges against jurin for extortion. something about jurin asked for $$$$ in exchange for the wherabouts of Natalee's remains!
Are you kidding?? When was this offer made, I wonder?
My thoughts exactly.
They should have gone along with it and then had him arrested for extortion (although I'm sure he was lying).
Wonder why this is just coming to light?
Extradite him for extortion and then cxharge him with murder of U.S. citizen. After all, how would he know where she was if he was not involved in putting her there. And we have the death penalty.
Bring him to Alabama ... I think he's been in fear of being brought here for a very long time.
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Quote from: klaasend on June 03, 2010, 06:04:49 PM
OMG
Joran tried to extort money from Beth, when that failed he murdered Stephany on the 5 year anniversary to GET BACK AT BETH
OMG
It makes sense that the person who Joran was attempted to extort funds from was Beth but ... I cannot find her name mentioned in the filing.
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Extortion & Wire Fraud
By accepting the $15,000, the goon has put himself in even deeper water. People go to jail for this. And unsaid in the complaint is the galringly obvious fact that it is illegal to knowingly withold evidence in a criminal case. And quite clearly, the goon has "evidence" about the remains of Natalee.
Quite possible, based on the details of the claim, that Natalee remains hidden on the island, instead of set adrift in the sea. How else could he provide credible positioning the dear girl's remains? For $250K, loran readings don't cut it.
A capital crime in one jurisdiction; extortion and fraud in another jurisdiction with extradition treaties in play. And Interpol.
This has been a bad 24 hours for Mr. Tacopina and Aruba.
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