Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 - 6/4/10

[Northern Rose]

Three Peruvians have been killed by foreign tourists since 2007
The crime of Stephany Flores joins the Vilchez and Jana Cinthia Gomez, whose bodies were found in suitcases

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/489365/tres-peruanas-han-sido-asesinadas-ciudadanos-extranjeros-desde-2007

[klaasend]

I can't stand JVM

Swanky hotel, lol...guess she hasn't looked at the photos.

[Northern Rose]

Joran Van der Sloot extorted Beth Holloway for info of the whereabouts of her daughter Natalee Holloway

(WIREUPDATE) — The mother of missing teen Alabama Natalee Holloway was extorted by the Dutchman who claimed to know the whereabouts of her body. Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren revealed that Beth Holloway was the victim of an extortion plot by Joran Van der Sloot.

On Thursday, the U.S. government charged Joran van der Sloot with attempting to receive money in exchange for revealing the location of Natalee Holloawy’s body. According to a complaint filed in U.S. District Court Van der Sloot received a partial payment of $15,000 from a financial institution in Birmingham Alabama last month. Van der Sloot wouldn’t reveal the location until a full payment of $250,000 was made.

Joran van der Sloot is the prime suspect of the May 2005 disappearance of Natalee Holloway. He is also a suspect for the murder of Stephany Rameriz in Peru, which allegedly happened 5 years to day of Holloway’s disappearance

http://wireupdate.com/wires/5994/joran-van-der-sloot-extorted-beth-holloway-for-info-of-the-whereabouts-of-her-daughter-natalee-holloway/

[Nut44x4]

Could have been Greta.
She drives me crazy .. :}

me too...but no way it was her.

[Tamikosmom]

I know there's been no PC yet but OMG

Did Joran call or email Beth and tell her for 250k he'd tell her where Natalee's body was?

Klaas - my hunch is that it was Greta.  She was the only one who gave him $$ for info before, and he knew that....

I'm thinking he called her again, and this time SHE set HIM up - BIG TIME!!!!

I disagree.  I believe one of the reports said he extorted someone in the Birmingham area.  Why else would it be filed in Birmingham?  Greta lives in Washington DC doesn't she?

You are correct Klaas.  I believe that is why John Kelly has been in Aruban twice since May 10 ... according to Greta's sources.

Janet

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Joran Van der Sloot accused of extortion
Posted: Jun 03, 2010 2:16 PM PDT
Updated: Jun 03, 2010 2:27 PM PDT

BIRMINGHAM, AL (WBRC) - Joran Van der Sloot, the longtime suspect in the disappearance of missing Mountain Brook teenager Natalee Holloway, has been accused of offering $250,000 in exchange for her whereabouts.

In a criminal complaint filed Thursday by the U.S. Attorney in Birmingham, Van der Sloot is accused of offering $250,000 to a person in Birmingham in exchange for information about the whereabouts of her remains in Aruba.  Holloway disappeared in Aruba in May 2005 during a senior trip to the island.

Joyce White Vance, the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama, has scheduled a news conference for 5 p.m. Thursday to discuss the criminal complaint, which was filed Thursday in federal court in Birmingham.

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http://www.myfoxal.com/Global/story.asp?S=12591263


June 3, 2010 | 1:23 PM ET

As you know doubt know, I have been making calls to Aruba to find out what people know about the latest Joran van der Sloot news.

I have learned - and this is rather curious - that Holloway family lawyer John Q. Kelly has been spotted twice in the last 30 days in Aruba.

His presence (twice in the last 30 days) in Aruba is notable and peculiar since the Aruban authorities have said they have shut down the Natalee investigation and yesterday made a statement that they have nothing to do with this latest Peru investigation for murder.

http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/joran-van-der-sloot-update/

[jen3560]

She could have but I believe the crime occurred wherever Joran made contact.  I think that is the place the charges would have been filed. 

I guess we will find out on one of the programs tonight.  Greta's especially.

I would think the crime occurred when the money was actually transferred?  The 15k that was forwarded.  That they have actually issued the arrest warrant, tells me the FBI was involved at the time that money was transferred, not after the fact.  Regardless of who it was, it makes sense to me that it would be the Birmingham FBI office that person would have turned to, and gotten on board for these charges to be possible.

[Cappuccino]

I know there's been no PC yet but OMG

Did Joran call or email Beth and tell her for 250k he'd tell her where Natalee's body was?

Klaas - my hunch is that it was Greta.  She was the only one who gave him $$ for info before, and he knew that....

I'm thinking he called her again, and this time SHE set HIM up - BIG TIME!!!!

I disagree.  I believe one of the reports said he extorted someone in the Birmingham area.  Why else would it be filed in Birmingham?  Greta lives in Washington DC doesn't she?

Yes, she resides in the DC area with her husband

[Anna]

WAFF news still saying the charges for extortion were filed for trying to get money from a person in Alabama.  Huntsville news.

[klaasend]

Rob sent this to me:

TJ on JVM tonite for the full hour... and he is pissed @ Renhoe...

He is blazing mad and he's gonna unleash on  her... and talk about the Persistence.

[Magnolia]

Jug was on again on CBS/42.  He said that Beth is holding up well and that she
has more hope this time than she has had in the past.  He said Beth is a strong woman
and she has endured so much, but they both feel better with Joran off the streets.
Jug said: Joran is messed up.

(There was a picture of Beth on the end table next to Jug's chair.)

[Sdb]

If Aruba had any guts they would be digging up the VDS property right now with backhoes. Anita and they rest of the gang should be drug in for questioning. Real hard questioning. Right Now.

[klaasend]

WAFF news still saying the charges for extortion were filed for trying to get money from a person in Alabama.  Huntsville news.

Charlierat?    (j/k)

[Northern Rose]

OMG on JVM they just said a delegation from the Dutch Embassy just visited Joran in the jail in Chile.

[trimmonthelake]

CNN just reported on TV that an Alabama senator or lawyer has filed charges against jurin for extortion. something about jurin asked for $$$$ in exchange for the wherabouts of Natalee's remains!

Are you kidding?? When was this offer made, I wonder?

My thoughts exactly.
They should have gone along with it and then had him arrested for extortion (although I'm sure he was lying).
Wonder why this is just coming to light?

Extradite him for extortion and then cxharge him with murder of U.S. citizen.  After all, how would he know where she was if he was not involved in putting her there.  And we have the death penalty.

but the DP will get him 20 years of appeals...I'd rather he rot in a prison in Peru.

Not in Alabama, it won't.  Virginia, Florida or Texas either.

You got that right.

[Magnolia]

She could have but I believe the crime occurred wherever Joran made contact.  I think that is the place the charges would have been filed. 

I guess we will find out on one of the programs tonight.  Greta's especially.

I would think the crime occurred when the money was actually transferred?  The 15k that was forwarded.  That they have actually issued the arrest warrant, tells me the FBI was involved at the time that money was transferred, not after the fact.  Regardless of who it was, it makes sense to me that it would be the Birmingham FBI office that person would have turned to, and gotten on board for these charges to be possible.

I wonder who received the wire transfer in NL. 

[Anna]

BIRMINGHAM, AL (WBRC) - Joran van der Sloot, the longtime suspect in the disappearance of missing Mountain Brook teenager Natalee Holloway, has been accused of offering $250,000 in exchange for her whereabouts.

In a criminal complaint filed Thursday by the U.S. Attorney in Birmingham, Van der Sloot is accused of offering $250,000 to a person in Birmingham in exchange for information about the whereabouts of her remains in Aruba.  Holloway disappeared in Aruba in May 2005 during a senior trip to the island.

Joyce White Vance, the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama, has scheduled a news conference for 5 p.m. Thursday to discuss the criminal complaint, which was filed Thursday in federal court in Birmingham.

Van der Sloot was arrested earlier in the day in Chile on charges of murder in the death of a young woman in Peru. He's accused of killing Stephany Flores, 21, in a hotel in Lima, Peru, on Sunday, five years to the day after Holloway disappeared.

Fernando Ovalle, deputy spokesman of Chile's national investigative police, told the Associated Press Van der Sloot was arrested while traveling in a taxi, about halfway to the coast on Route 68.  Ovalle said Van der Sloot did not resist arrest and has been calm under detention.

Flores was killed exactly five years after the May 30, 2005, disappearance of Holloway during a high school trip in Aruba, a Dutch Caribbean island where van der Sloot's late father was a prominent judge.

Van der Sloot was twice arrested but later released for lack of evidence in the 2005 disappearance of Holloway in Aruba. Prosecutors said van der Sloot is still their main suspect in the case even though he was never charged.

No trace of her has been found and van der Sloot remains the main suspect in the case, Ann Angela, spokeswoman for the Aruba prosecutor's office, said Wednesday.

Two years ago, a Dutch television crime reporter captured hidden-camera footage of van der Sloot saying he was with Holloway when she collapsed on a beach from being drunk. He said he believed she was dead and asked a friend to dump her body in the sea.

Judges subsequently refused to arrest van der Sloot on the basis of the tape.

A spokeswoman for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty of Mountain Brook, Alabama, told the AP the family was aware of the development in Peru but would have no comment.

Copyright 2010 WBRC. All rights reserved. The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=12591647

[klaasend]

Jug was on again on CBS/42.  He said that Beth is holding up well and that she
has more hope this time than she has had in the past.  He said Beth is a strong woman
and she has endured so much, but they both feel better with Joran off the streets.
Jug said: Joran is messed up.

(There was a picture of Beth on the end table next to Jug's chair.)

Thanks Magnolia!

[SunnyinTX]

Anyone see the AL pressser?  Has it happened yet?  ANNA??

I saw it and posted what was said....it was short

thanks I will go back and find it

[SunnyinTX]

Rob sent this to me:

TJ on JVM tonite for the full hour... and he is pissed @ Renhoe...

He is blazing mad and he's gonna unleash on  her... and talk about the Persistence.

WOOHOO

[Cappuccino]

OMG on JVM they just said a delegation from the Dutch Embassy just visited Joran in the jail in Chile.

Well, they wont be tip toe'g thru the tulips in Peru.   Why is it the Dutch Embassy feels it necessary to send a delegation when it is more than obvious that they do not give a rat's @$$ about murder victims....BOYCOTT ARUBA & HOLLAND, stick that in your wooden shoes!