Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 - 6/4/10

[EURobert]

Just in Hart van Nederland:

People of the Dutch embassy have visited Joran in the Chilean police-cel. He was calm and relaxed and said he didn't need specific help from them.
His lawyer: Joran said to him he got a message from Joran in which he said he would give him self in in Chile.
Ma is in shock....

[klaasend]

He'll change planes, go through paperwork, and should arrive in Lima in 2-3 hours to undergo thorough interrogations.

Thanks CBB - I can't watch/listen right now.  Seems there's a vacuum cleaner in the room (husband)

[klaasend]

Just in Hart van Nederland:

People of the Dutch embassy have visited Joran in the Chilean police-cel. He was calm and relaxed and said he didn't need specific help from them.
His lawyer: Joran said to him he got a message from Joran in which he said he would give him self in in Chile.
Ma is in shock....

What does this mean exactly?

Also does MA in shock mean that Anita is in shock?  Because if it does she's shocked he got caught.  She knows what he's capable of, IMO.

[Searching]

Clarifying the "AGAIN:"

Natalee was the wrong daughter, also.  When Natalee's family arrived within hours of her disappearance, Paulus was surprised.

Aruba was surprised by the publicity; surprised by Beth's determination.  The hoped for "two-week wonder" turned into a five-year march.

Natalee was "the wrong daughter" as was Stephany.

Joran is under the bus and likely to get squashed.

That alone makes one wonder exactly how many victims were before Natalee that went unnoticed.

[SunnyinTX]

I would love to learn what FALSE evidence he gave the FBI/Beth. 

this is bugging me.....I assume LE in Aruba would have to be working (or say they were) with the FBI to check out anything in aruba......

I want to know what the info was and WHO EXACTLY checked it out and deemed it incorrect..........

I don't trust anything the Arubans have a part of

[SunnyinTX]

Just in Hart van Nederland:

People of the Dutch embassy have visited Joran in the Chilean police-cel. He was calm and relaxed and said he didn't need specific help from them.
His lawyer: Joran said to him he got a message from Joran in which he said he would give him self in in Chile.
Ma is in shock....

thanks Robert......do you have any idea what lawyer he talked to?  and any idea what give him self in in Chile means??

[flutter1]

My, my...who wants their mommie now?

[Blonde]

2005- 2010

[crazybabyborg]

He'll change planes, go through paperwork, and should arrive in Lima in 2-3 hours to undergo thorough interrogations.

Thanks CBB - I can't watch/listen right now.  Seems there's a vacuum cleaner in the room (husband)

LOL!
Yeah, and Joran looks SO ready to undergo thorough interrogation right now, doesn't he? The reporter really did emphasize the word "thorough". LOL!

[klaasend]

2005- 2010

Thanks for the comparison Blonde.  Same look IMO.

[cece]

Sorry, this has probably already been posted.  I'm so far behind & can't seem to catch up.



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Raw Video: Joran Van Der Sloot on Plane to Peru

By: AP

Chilean authorities escorted Joran van der Sloot onto a plane Friday headed to the Peruvian border, where he'll be handed over to officials. He's the prime suspect in the death of a Peruvian woman. (June 4)

video:

http://pantagraph.com/news/world/vmix_77454cac-6ff4-11df-9c43-001cc4c002e0.html

[EURobert]

Just in Hart van Nederland:

People of the Dutch embassy have visited Joran in the Chilean police-cel. He was calm and relaxed and said he didn't need specific help from them.
His lawyer: Joran said to him he got a message from Joran in which he said he would give him self in in Chile.
Ma is in shock....

thanks Robert......do you have any idea what lawyer he talked to?  and any idea what give him self in in Chile means??

It was his Dutch lawyer; he said it was not claire why Joran wanted to give himself in in Chile. But this lawyer also said: some things he (the lawyer) could not share with the public because it was confidential.

Now Terror Jaap speaks: Joran constantly was in problems; lack of money, lack of drugs and so on. He thinks Joran is going to tell exactly where Natalees remains are, in a couple of weeks. (Don't know why he thinks that.)

[crazybabyborg]

2005- 2010

I don't think he's sleeping well.

[AZSunny]

Prisoner's day.  I assume something Joran can look forward to for many years to come:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/DUIrlmIObhA&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6&amp;border=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/DUIrlmIObhA&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6&amp;border=1</a>

WOW - looks like a fun time....O LAY

Well, at least he will learn to speak Spanish!  LOL 

[seemeatthebeach]

Receptionist counts how he found the corpse of Stephany Flores

Abad Adely Marchena Miraflores Tac hotel receptionist, where she was found dead Stephany Flores (21), said that he was working in this establishment early Wednesday and received a strange call asking for the citizens Netherlands, Joran Van der Sloot. This is stated in a document appended to the minutes of lifting the body of the girl, who had access to space "América Noticias". In that statement to the police, Abbot noted that at 00:30 on Wednesday received a call from a woman, supposedly Atlantic City casino, asking for Joran, but nobody answered the Dutchman in the room, he replied that the young man was not. After that the alien was found two days rental so went to the room and knocked on the door several times . 'As I heard that the TV was on, no bother and went upstairs and I told the manager that told me to get back and take a copy of the room, "said Adely in its manifestation.
He added that, on having entered to the quarter, he found the body of the daughter of the well-known businessman Ricardo Flores.

" Miss Stephany was thrown in the flat of back and the knees flexionadas towards the wall and was bleeding for the nose from what I was scared and went out ", he concluded.

According to the record of raising of corpse, the young woman received a fortress much blow at a height of the left ear with an object contuso (without knife-edge).

Meanwhile, the Division of Murders has been in charge to analyze the racket found in the room, which would be the weapon of attack.

The medical jurist described multiple injuries in the arms and the feet of the young woman. Also it was presenting chafings in the chin and blows even in the knees and had from 42 to 72 hours of death and of 5.000 dollars that it had gained in the casino, there was no track.

According to the police report of the Police station of San Antonio, in the room also there were some belongings of Stephany as his phone nextel, a portfolio, untid clothes and a lighter with the logotype of Atlantic City.

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2010-06-03-recepcionista-cuenta-como-encontro-cadaver-de-stephany-flores-noticia_269820.html

[Blonde]

I would love to learn what FALSE evidence he gave the FBI/Beth. 

this is bugging me.....I assume LE in Aruba would have to be working (or say they were) with the FBI to check out anything in aruba......

I want to know what the info was and WHO EXACTLY checked it out and deemed it incorrect..........

I don't trust anything the Arubans have a part of

I don't think it has anything to do with false information it was the act of getting money for information that was against the law.
Extortion is a criminal offense which occurs when a person unlawfully obtains either money, property or services from a person(s), entity, or institution, through coercion. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called protection. Extortion is commonly practiced by organized crime groups. The actual obtainment of money or property is not required to commit the offense.

[cece]

[thirdstrike]

Prisoner's day.  I assume something Joran can look forward to for many years to come:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/DUIrlmIObhA&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6&amp;border=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/DUIrlmIObhA&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6&amp;border=1</a>

WOW - looks like a fun time....O LAY

Well, at least he will learn to speak Spanish!  LOL 

I guess the only words he'll have to learn in Spanish are "Please stop.  I can barely walk anymore"...

[kimi1230]

Whoooeee...Joran looks bad....can't decide if his face is all puffy because he didn't get any sleep or because he's been boo-hooing or both! 

I bet he has been crying for his mommy

LOL...he looks scared shi_less...Also looks like a madman....like Jack Nicholson in all of his crazy, scarey movies.
I hope he enjoys his new home!

[seemeatthebeach]

2005- 2010

I don't think he's sleeping well.

Authorities probably did not allow him to sleep.........at least I hope they didn't.