Natalee Case Discussion #833 6/2/10 - 6/4/10

[Lifesong]

I still believe that as soon as Joran contacted Beth on the extortion plot, Beth immediately reached out to her FBI contact.  I still believe it was a sting.

I do not believe that it was Beth's personal money that was wired to Joran.  It could have been FBI funds, it could have been funds from JQK's law firm.  I do not believe the FBI would require Beth to send her own money to her daughter's murderer. 

I think "Glenda" is merely showing her IQ again..what was it, like 13?

Julia, that blood on your hands isn't going to wash off that easy now is it?

B*tch.

[Ono]

LOL

[Tamikosmom]

June 4, 2010 | 1:14 PM ET
BREAKING NEWS ! FBI VIDEO TAPED IT ALL!
Greta Van Susteren | Anchor

FBI VIDEO TAPED JORAN VAN DER SLOOT EXTORTING THE MONEY from a representative of Beth Holloway.

THE TAPING OCCURRED ON MAY 10 IN ARUBA AND ARUBAN AUTHORITIES WORKED WITH THE FBI TO DO THIS.

THIS WAS A JOINT OPERATION [FBI AND ARUBA] CAREFULLY PLANNED AND EXECUTED.

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NOTE: What we don't know is WHY van der Sloot was not arrested on May 10.  The criminal complaint released yesterday by the US Attorney in Alabama identifies May 10 as the crime date.  They had enough evidence on May 10 to make the arrest - they had the crime on tape. From a prosecutor's viewpoint, it doesn't get any better than catching the crime on tape.

(Note also that Holloway family lawyer John Q. Kelly was seen in Aruba at least twice in May.

More information to come...

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UPDATE 1:50pm....just learned that Joran van der Sloot left Aruba on the afternoon of May 13 and flew to Peru via Columbia.  Note that he had to go through customs and immigration......that would be a good place to arrest someone ...

http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/breaking-news-fbi-video-taped-it-all/

[Cappuccino]

Posted by Glenda/Julia Renfro at RU, the American traitor and all around SL**:

Glenda wrote:

So, "who" financed Joran's trip to Peru resulting in the death of a 21 year old girl. Sad

UNBELIEVEABLE!!!

Well her facebook friend has gotten away with his last heinous act...just how much did this psycho slore help him?    Is she implying that the Holloway family is responsible for giving him the funds to travel?    OMG, she best not be

http://www.facebook.com/people/Julia-Renfro/1588057630


Joran Van Der Sloot

[crazybabyborg]

Posted by Glenda/Julia Renfro at RU, the American traitor and all around SL**:

Glenda wrote:

So, "who" financed Joran's trip to Peru resulting in the death of a 21 year old girl. Sad

UNBELIEVEABLE!!!

Well her facebook friend has gotten away with his last heinous act...just how much did this psycho slore help him?    Is she implying that the Holloway family is responsible for giving him the funds to travel?    OMG, she best not be

http://www.facebook.com/people/Julia-Renfro/1588057630


Joran Van Der Sloot

Yes, that's what she is trying hard to suggest.

[Lifesong]

Posted by Glenda/Julia Renfro at RU, the American traitor and all around SL**:

Glenda wrote:

So, "who" financed Joran's trip to Peru resulting in the death of a 21 year old girl. Sad

UNBELIEVEABLE!!!

Well her facebook friend has gotten away with his last heinous act...just how much did this psycho slore help him?    Is she implying that the Holloway family is responsible for giving him the funds to travel?    OMG, she best not be

http://www.facebook.com/people/Julia-Renfro/1588057630


Joran Van Der Sloot

She looks more and more like Jan Brennan every day, lol.

[carpe noctem]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/04/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=Sbin

The victim's family said Friday they had mixed emotions about van der Sloot's capture and return to face charges in Peru.

"I cannot say that I was happy," brother Enrique Flores told CNN's Rafael Romo. "I feel a little relief in this pain that I have and that my family has. This pain that won't go away ... We want this action not to happen again."

Stephany's sister-in-law Carolina Jorge was more outspoken.

"We need justice for our family, for Natalee's family," she said.

Stephany's father, Ricardo, was more wistful and philosophical.

"My daughter had everything in life," the businessman and race car driver said. "Perhaps my error was to show her the pretty side of the world. I didn't show her that there was the other side to the world -- the evilness."

[Ono]

I still believe that as soon as Joran contacted Beth on the extortion plot, Beth immediately reached out to her FBI contact.  I still believe it was a sting.

I do not believe that it was Beth's personal money that was wired to Joran.  It could have been FBI funds, it could have been funds from JQK's law firm.  I do not believe the FBI would require Beth to send her own money to her daughter's murderer. 

I think "Glenda" is merely showing her IQ again..what was it, like 13?

Julia, that blood on your hands isn't going to wash off that easy now is it?

B*tch.

Thirteen sounds about right. lol   Sort of matches the MQ  [Moral Quotient].

[Searching]

TM - could use some help with this translation.  Comment posted:

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18338-terror-jaap-ta-un-di-e-amigonan-cu-polis-a-haci-inval-na-su-cas.html#comments

Scirbi pa chebar, June 04, 2010
Joran ta den PANIEK pasobra e sa cu pronto nan ta bai encontra e cadaver di Natalee Halloway ora cu bai haci cobamento y prepara e tereno pa Ritz Carlton.Pesey e tbt trata di gosa di mas t***o di su bida awor y haciendo tur cos as hoc. Momento cu hanja e cadaver e no por scapa. Pesey tambe e lo kier gana placa bisando unda e cadaver ta promer cu hanje pasobra e ora e ta bai sera sin hanja nada pa gosa promer cu bai sera pa un tempo hopi largo.


Through pap translator:

witten by chebar, june 04, 2010
joran is in paniek because the know cu soon they're go encontra the cadaver by natalee halloway hour cu go haci cobamento y prepara the ground before ritz carlton.pesey the tbt deal by delightin by more t***o by her life at present y haciendo all cos bait hoc. instant cu hanja the cadaver the not can scapa. pesey also the will be willing to earn coin saying where the cadaver is before hanje because the hour the is go close without hanja nothing before delightin before go close before one time quite largo. come across



Was Joran thinking they would find Natalee's body during the excavation for the Ritz Carlton hotel?  Could he have decided he had to try and get money NOW out of Beth before they find her remains?

this is best I could do ..still working on it though

joran is in paniek because the know cu soon they're go discover the cadaver by natalee halloway hour cu go haci cobamento y prepara the ground before ritz carlton.pesey the tbt deal by delightin by more t***o by her life at present y haciendo all cos bait hoc. instant cu hanja the cadaver the not can scapa. pesey also the will be willing to earn coin saying where the cadaver is before hanje because the hour the is go close without hanja nothing before delightin before go close before one time quite largo

[Cappuccino]

June 4, 2010 | 1:14 PM ET
BREAKING NEWS ! FBI VIDEO TAPED IT ALL!
Greta Van Susteren | Anchor

FBI VIDEO TAPED JORAN VAN DER SLOOT EXTORTING THE MONEY from a representative of Beth Holloway.

THE TAPING OCCURRED ON MAY 10 IN ARUBA AND ARUBAN AUTHORITIES WORKED WITH THE FBI TO DO THIS.

THIS WAS A JOINT OPERATION [FBI AND ARUBA] CAREFULLY PLANNED AND EXECUTED.

----

NOTE: What we don't know is WHY van der Sloot was not arrested on May 10.  The criminal complaint released yesterday by the US Attorney in Alabama identifies May 10 as the crime date.  They had enough evidence on May 10 to make the arrest - they had the crime on tape. From a prosecutor's viewpoint, it doesn't get any better than catching the crime on tape.

(Note also that Holloway family lawyer John Q. Kelly was seen in Aruba at least twice in May.

More information to come...

----

UPDATE 1:50pm....just learned that Joran van der Sloot left Aruba on the afternoon of May 13 and flew to Peru via Columbia.  Note that he had to go through customs and immigration......that would be a good place to arrest someone ...

http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/breaking-news-fbi-video-taped-it-all/

Did it ever occur to her that they were also obtaining affidavits, etc.    Maybe they wanted him to travel & get him using the funds also on surveillance tape, dear God they had no way of knowing for sure that he would kill again (although millions suspected same).  I dont get why Greta is hell bent on this, the FBI or the Holloway's in effecting this sting didnt commit a murder Joran is accused of that.   Greta was a practicing attorney she should know better than this to say that as soon as a crime is committed on tape the arrest can occur immediately....there are always circumstances & a plan in place, the fact that he had time to kill before an arrest was made  IMHO is a sideshow that is quite frankly disrespecting both Natalee & Stephany.   Bottom line, if Joran was inclined to kill he would have at his will & his heinous acts are his to own - it should be noted that many think that he very well could have killed more than we know to date.   Is it more than repulsive that he succeeded killing another, of course it is but to imply that it could have been prevented is IMHO naive.    The only other blame that is appropriate in this case are all those of Aruba & the Netherlands that shoved Natalee's case aside as well as actually helping this monster get away with what I believe to be Natalee's murder - Joran's actions & how he was protected is actually the reason why he was free to spread his evil around the world.

I am appalled

[Cappuccino]

Posted by Glenda/Julia Renfro at RU, the American traitor and all around SL**:

Glenda wrote:

So, "who" financed Joran's trip to Peru resulting in the death of a 21 year old girl. Sad

UNBELIEVEABLE!!!

Well her facebook friend has gotten away with his last heinous act...just how much did this psycho slore help him?    Is she implying that the Holloway family is responsible for giving him the funds to travel?    OMG, she best not be

http://www.facebook.com/people/Julia-Renfro/1588057630


Joran Van Der Sloot

She looks more and more like Jan Brennan every day, lol.

Do you mean Anne Brennan, the attorney? 

[Tamikosmom]

Murder suspect expected in Peru after expulsion from Chile
By the CNN Wire Staff
June 4, 2010 2:31 p.m. EDT

Santiago, Chile (CNN) -- Peruvian officials awaited the return from Chile on Friday of Joran van der Sloot, the suspect in the slaying of a 21-year-old Peruvian woman this week.

<snipped>

Van der Sloot's former attorney, Joseph Tacopina, told CNN it was too early to reach any conclusions.

"I just think we need to take a step back before we get to the 'I told you so' stage, and let's see what the evidence is here," Tacopina said Thursday.

Tacopina said he is not representing van der Sloot and no longer has a good relationship with the family.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/04/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=Sbin

[Lifesong]

Posted by Glenda/Julia Renfro at RU, the American traitor and all around SL**:

Glenda wrote:

So, "who" financed Joran's trip to Peru resulting in the death of a 21 year old girl. Sad

UNBELIEVEABLE!!!

Well her facebook friend has gotten away with his last heinous act...just how much did this psycho slore help him?    Is she implying that the Holloway family is responsible for giving him the funds to travel?    OMG, she best not be

http://www.facebook.com/people/Julia-Renfro/1588057630


Joran Van Der Sloot

She looks more and more like Jan Brennan every day, lol.

Do you mean Anne Brennan, the attorney? 

No, I mean Jan Brennan.  The man-woman.  Heh heh.  I don't have a picture, maybe Klaas will post it again, but it looks like a woman with a man's face stuck to the front of her head.

[caesu]

police force 50 man strong is awaiting Joran's arrival in Peruvian border town Tacna.

expected 4pm EST

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6863821/__Politiemacht_wacht_Joran_op__.html?sn=binnenland

[Cappuccino]

OOOOO    Shepard Smith (love him) just said on Foxnews that a Peru government official referred to Joran as a serial killer, more after the break.

[Cappuccino]

police force 50 man strong is awaiting Joran's arrival in Peruvian border town Tacna.

expected 4pm EST

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6863821/__Politiemacht_wacht_Joran_op__.html?sn=binnenland

NOW that is a beautiful site in the midst of horror.....Joran, bend over grab your ankles & kiss your sorry @$$ buh-bye!

[caesu]

Joran denies killing Stephany Flores.
he admits he knows her and has been with her to the casino,

http://nos.nl/artikel/162051-van-der-sloot-ontkent-moord.html

[Cappuccino]

police force 50 man strong is awaiting Joran's arrival in Peruvian border town Tacna.

expected 4pm EST

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6863821/__Politiemacht_wacht_Joran_op__.html?sn=binnenland

NOW that is a beautiful site in the midst of horror.....Joran, bend over grab your ankles & kiss your sorry @$$ buh-bye!

correction:   sight

[Lifesong]

I'm not ready to jump on Greta yet.  It is possible that Beth feels that the FBI should have moved more swiftly but she cannot come out and complain about them so Greta is doing it for her.

Greta and Beth, so far as I know, still have a good relationship.  I do not think Greta would turn on Beth now.  Especially not now.

I could, of course, be wrong.

[klaasend]

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/489745/me-considero-tipo-guapo-mujeres-no-se-quieren-ir-conmigo-decia-joran-van-der-sloot-lima

Through translator: