Haleigh Marie Cummings #36 5/04/10 - 5/24/10

[BeatnicHippie]

Hi everyone!  Happy Friday to ya!


What I found interesting in the hank Sr article was the wording of the last statement he made:

Croslin Sr. said: "I think they'll be found innocent, yeah, of not harming her. I don't know what happened -- what they know or what happened -- but I know either one of them didn't hurt that baby."

Odd choice of words, doncha think?

  Hiya BNH!!

Welcome!

I find it odd choice of words also, but then again everything all of them say is odd. I hope something breaks soon.

Hey, Maven! Good to see ya! I think Hank knows they are guilty of something, he just isn't sure what. I imagine all parents would like to believe their children couldn't harm a child. Unfortunately, we know thats not the case since there are far too many children missing/deceased in this world. His choice of words just struck me as off-kilter somehow. I do believe he would buy Tommy's story over Misty's. I base this on how he would talk to each in the videos/audios. I wish we knew what version Tommy is telling at this point.

[Tamikosmom]

Cummings' bond-reduction hearing canceled
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100507/ARTICLES/100509533

Is there a chance that he has been released?  Where would I look for that?

I would not be surprised.  When you consider the countless times that this guy has been detained ... charged and ... released without one conviction ... I am expecting that Ron Cummings will be granted freedom.

There is something not right in regards to Ronald Cummings relationship with LE.  Maybe his attorney has connections.  Maybe any conviction of Ron Cummings implies Sheriff Hardy's son would have been exposed who he is ... another Ron Cummings.

Think about it.  Not one suspect as been detained in the Haleigh Cummings case.  Nobody has been officially declared a person of interest.  Despite the changing stories from these drug addicted low lifes regarding what happened that fateful night ... LE has not acted.  What is wrong with this picture?

Maybe conflicts of interest imply that the Haleigh Cummings case should be handled by LE in another county.

Janet

JUSTICE FOR HALEIGH MARIE!!

[no rose colored glasses]

Thanks Rob 

[Heart]

Cummings' bond-reduction hearing canceled
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100507/ARTICLES/100509533

Is there a chance that he has been released?  Where would I look for that?

I would not be surprised.  When you consider the countless times that this guy has been detained ... charged and ... released without one conviction ... I am expecting that Ron Cummings will be granted freedom.

There is something not right in regards to Ronald Cummings relationship with LE.  Maybe his attorney has connections.  Maybe any conviction of Ron Cummings implies Sheriff Hardy's son would have been exposed who he is ... another Ron Cummings.

Think about it.  Not one suspect as been detained in the Haleigh Cummings case.  Nobody has been officially declared a person of interest.  Despite the changing stories from these drug addicted low lifes regarding what happened that fateful night ... LE has not acted.  What is wrong with this picture?

Maybe conflicts of interest imply that the Haleigh Cummings case should be handled by LE in another county.

Janet

JUSTICE FOR HALEIGH MARIE!!

UCN: 542010CF000253XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-02-03   Judge: TERRY J LARUE    
Defense Atty: SHOEMAKER, TERRY J

Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Alias

Date   #   Docket Description
2010-02-03   1   COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/DET T CAMPBELL 1-19-10
2010-02-03   1   BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2010-02-03   2   INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (14G-28G)
2010-02-03   3   CAPIAS REQUEST FORM - BOND $150,000 NATIONWIDE
2010-02-03   4   CAPIAS ISSUED - BOND SET AT $150,000 NATIONWIDE
2010-02-04   5   ARREST REPORT - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (14G -28G)
2010-02-04   5   ARREST DATE:02/03/2010
2010-02-04   5   BOOKING NUMBER:10-0276
2010-02-04   6   DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG
2010-02-04   6   ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING
2010-02-04   6   SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND
2010-02-04   6   $150,000 SECURED BOND SET
2010-02-04   7   CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED
2010-02-10   8   NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER
2010-02-10   9   NOTICE OF DISCOVERY
2010-02-10   10   STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
2010-02-10   11   WITNESS LIST
2010-02-10   12   DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE
2010-02-11   13   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL
2010-02-11   14   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02-18-2010)
2010-02-17   15   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND
2010-02-17   15   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY:TERRY J SHOEMAKER (FAX)
2010-02-17   17   FOR JURY TRIAL FILED BY:TERRY J SHOEMAKER (ORIGINAL)
2010-02-18   16   ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010
2010-02-19   17   WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND DEMAND
2010-02-23   18   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (03-31-2010) IN JAIL
2010-02-23   19   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010)
2010-03-03   20   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
2010-03-17   21   NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY
2010-03-29   22   SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
2010-03-31   23   PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY TERRY SHOEMAKER
2010-03-31   23   ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2010-03-31   23   CONTINUED TO 05/13/2010
2010-04-07   24   NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05-13-2010) IN JAIL
2010-04-07   25   NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (05-13-2010)
2010-04-26   26   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
2010-05-06   27   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM
2010-05-06   27   MOTION TO REDUCE BOND
2010-05-06   28   NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
2010-05-06   28   STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-05-06   28   OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
2010-05-06   28   RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)

[SunnyinTX]

MISTY CROSLIN COMPLETE LAYERED VOICE ANALYSIS

Hi Monks!  Hi Rob!  thanks for posting this.

[Heart]

Currently no release:

RONALD  LEMYLES  CUMMINGS
WELAKA,  FL
Booking Date & Time: 1/29/2010 8:17:13 AM  - Booking#: 10-00276
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 10/29/1983 -  RACE: W  -  SEX: M

[Heart]

MISTY CROSLIN COMPLETE LAYERED VOICE ANALYSIS

Hi Monks!  Hi Rob!  thanks for posting this.

My bad!  Thought that was MC's cursive writings.   

[Heart]

Sheriff's son arrested in meth ring
http://www.fox30jax.com/content/actionlocal/story/Sheriffs-son-arrested-in-meth-ring/MbMmeGheRE6JVbWu9Cmt0w.cspx

Thanks Heart.

"Scott Hood, Johanna Smith and Amanda Tomlinson, and Imm are all behind bars on the drug charges as well as child neglect charges."

Have these names been connect with the Ron Cummings or the Croslins in the past?

Janet

Only, that I do recall Tommy mentioning something about the Sheriff's son doing drugs. I am looking to see where and what tape Tommy mentioned it on.

It was in this tape: http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29737525/tommy-croslin-4-2-9-10-d.htm

Glad I took notes, and that I found them! 

Thank you so very much Maven!

around 5:05 on the tape:  http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29737525/tommy-croslin-4-2-9-10-d.htm

TC: See that damn sheriff, his son is worst than I am on them damn pills. The sheriff's son,  hes worston those pills  than I am.

If Tommy was aware all along of the Sheriff's son involvment in drugs ... it makes sense that Ron Cummings was also aware.  Could it be that LE figured it out ... if Ron Cummings was actually convicted on one of those past drug charges ... he was going to bring others down with him.

Janet
 

I thought the same thing and I also find it interesting the sherriff's son's address......Do I remember correctly Chelsea saying that she told them that they should search on 309 ? Maybe that was a reminder to the Sherrif about his son? JMO but something stinks in that town....also Gma Sykes and TN always run to Ronalds defense...Gma gets down right aggressive about Ronald but not this time maybe because she knows that Ronald does not need help this time ? That it has already been arranged for him to get off on this charge too? Don't forget when they told Ron that you were only suppose to get x- amount of visiting time but that they talked to LE and he was going to get an hour 3 times a week? Special favors? Also his phone conversations have been very well kept out of the air except for a chosen few...hummmm....something to think about for sure.

Jeff Hardy just got the sheriff position around the time of  HaLeigh's disappearance, I thought.

[Heart]

Hi everyone!  Happy Friday to ya!


What I found interesting in the hank Sr article was the wording of the last statement he made:

Croslin Sr. said: "I think they'll be found innocent, yeah, of not harming her. I don't know what happened -- what they know or what happened -- but I know either one of them didn't hurt that baby."

Odd choice of words, doncha think?

Hi BeatnicHippie, welcome aboard!

[my2cents]

Sheriff's son arrested in meth ring
http://www.fox30jax.com/content/actionlocal/story/Sheriffs-son-arrested-in-meth-ring/MbMmeGheRE6JVbWu9Cmt0w.cspx

Thanks Heart.

"Scott Hood, Johanna Smith and Amanda Tomlinson, and Imm are all behind bars on the drug charges as well as child neglect charges."

Have these names been connect with the Ron Cummings or the Croslins in the past?

Janet

Only, that I do recall Tommy mentioning something about the Sheriff's son doing drugs. I am looking to see where and what tape Tommy mentioned it on.

It was in this tape: http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29737525/tommy-croslin-4-2-9-10-d.htm

Glad I took notes, and that I found them! 

Thank you so very much Maven!

around 5:05 on the tape:  http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29737525/tommy-croslin-4-2-9-10-d.htm

TC: See that damn sheriff, his son is worst than I am on them damn pills. The sheriff's son,  hes worston those pills  than I am.

If Tommy was aware all along of the Sheriff's son involvment in drugs ... it makes sense that Ron Cummings was also aware.  Could it be that LE figured it out ... if Ron Cummings was actually convicted on one of those past drug charges ... he was going to bring others down with him.

Janet
 

I thought the same thing and I also find it interesting the sherriff's son's address......Do I remember correctly Chelsea saying that she told them that they should search on 309 ? Maybe that was a reminder to the Sherrif about his son? JMO but something stinks in that town....also Gma Sykes and TN always run to Ronalds defense...Gma gets down right aggressive about Ronald but not this time maybe because she knows that Ronald does not need help this time ? That it has already been arranged for him to get off on this charge too? Don't forget when they told Ron that you were only suppose to get x- amount of visiting time but that they talked to LE and he was going to get an hour 3 times a week? Special favors? Also his phone conversations have been very well kept out of the air except for a chosen few...hummmm....something to think about for sure.

Jeff Hardy just got the sheriff position around the time of  HaLeigh's disappearance, I thought.

Yes I think that you are correct, a few months prior to.... but his son is Ron's age and was his son living/going to school in Satsuma before his dad was elected? Perhaps he lived there with his mom and step dad? I wonder if Hardy had any ties to LE in Satsuma prior to becoming sherriff?

[my2cents]

From what I have read it doesn't sound like the town was much better when Dean Kelley was sheriff.....

[trimmonthelake]

Heart,how funny,,,,Misty's cursive writing.   

[Heart]

Sheriff's son arrested in meth ring
http://www.fox30jax.com/content/actionlocal/story/Sheriffs-son-arrested-in-meth-ring/MbMmeGheRE6JVbWu9Cmt0w.cspx

Thanks Heart.

"Scott Hood, Johanna Smith and Amanda Tomlinson, and Imm are all behind bars on the drug charges as well as child neglect charges."

Have these names been connect with the Ron Cummings or the Croslins in the past?

Janet

Only, that I do recall Tommy mentioning something about the Sheriff's son doing drugs. I am looking to see where and what tape Tommy mentioned it on.

It was in this tape: http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29737525/tommy-croslin-4-2-9-10-d.htm

Glad I took notes, and that I found them! 

Thank you so very much Maven!

around 5:05 on the tape:  http://audio.thesky973.com/m/audio/29737525/tommy-croslin-4-2-9-10-d.htm

TC: See that damn sheriff, his son is worst than I am on them damn pills. The sheriff's son,  hes worston those pills  than I am.

If Tommy was aware all along of the Sheriff's son involvment in drugs ... it makes sense that Ron Cummings was also aware.  Could it be that LE figured it out ... if Ron Cummings was actually convicted on one of those past drug charges ... he was going to bring others down with him.

Janet
 

I thought the same thing and I also find it interesting the sherriff's son's address......Do I remember correctly Chelsea saying that she told them that they should search on 309 ? Maybe that was a reminder to the Sherrif about his son? JMO but something stinks in that town....also Gma Sykes and TN always run to Ronalds defense...Gma gets down right aggressive about Ronald but not this time maybe because she knows that Ronald does not need help this time ? That it has already been arranged for him to get off on this charge too? Don't forget when they told Ron that you were only suppose to get x- amount of visiting time but that they talked to LE and he was going to get an hour 3 times a week? Special favors? Also his phone conversations have been very well kept out of the air except for a chosen few...hummmm....something to think about for sure.

Jeff Hardy just got the sheriff position around the time of  HaLeigh's disappearance, I thought.

Yes I think that you are correct, a few months prior to.... but his son is Ron's age and was his son living/going to school in Satsuma before his dad was elected? Perhaps he lived there with his mom and step dad? I wonder if Hardy had any ties to LE in Satsuma prior to becoming sherriff?

Born in Buffalo, NY, on October 17, 1965, Jeff Hardy has over 22 years law enforcement experience, with more than sixteen years with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.  Hardy was first hired with the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office in 1991 as a patrol deputy, having moved from Broward County where he had been a deputy for four years. Over the years, Hardy was promoted several times, first to detective in 1994, and later transferred to the drug unit.  In 1995 Hardy was promoted to sergeant and placed in charge of the school resource unit.  In 1997 Hardy was promoted to Lieutenant and continued to supervise the SRO Unit, which was responsible for 20 schools and the safety and security of over 12,000 students. Hardy left the Sheriff’s Office in 2005 and was employed by the Putnam County School District, again overseeing the safety of its students and staff. Hardy established the Putnam County School District Police Department, evaluating school district security protocols and drafted recommendations to improve the standards of the school safety program. In 2008 Hardy was elected Sheriff of Putnam County and took office on January 6, 2009

http://www.pcso.us/sheriff

[my2cents]

Thanks Heart...I find that information very interesting.......

[Jerseygirl345]

Cummings seeking bond reduction in drug case

Staff report


Published: Friday, May 7, 2010 at 9:58 a.m.
Last Modified: Friday, May 7, 2010 at 9:58 a.m.
Ronald Cummings, the father of missing Putnam County girl Haleigh Cummings, has requested a hearing today to consider reducing his bond on drug trafficking charges, according to the 7th Circuit State Attorney's Office.



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Ronald Cummings Cummings, 26, is charged with five counts of trafficking narcotics, with bond set at $900,000. A reduction hearing is set for 2 p.m. in Putnam County, but a possibility exists it could be canceled, said Chris Kelly, spokesman for the State Attorney's Office.

Cummings, his former wife, Misty Croslin, and three others were arrested in January following an undercover investigation in which an officer allegedly bought narcotics such as oxycodone.

Haleigh disappeared from Cummings' home in February 2009 while under the care of Croslin, who was then Cummings' girlfriend. Sheriff Jeff Hardy recently said authorities believe Haleigh is dead and that the case is being considered a homicide.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100507/articles/100509550

[Jerseygirl345]

Posted My Bail – So Why Won’t They Let Me Out of Jail?

So you posted your bond, you are ready to be released…ready to go home, but you are told the government will not let you go free until you have a Nebbia hearing.  In frustration, you ask “what is a Nebbia hearing?”

What is a Nebbia hearing?

A Nebbia hearing, named after the case of U.S. v. Nebbia, 357 F.2d 303 (C.A.N.Y. 1966), is a hearing in which the court must decide whether or not the money or property posted as bail is the fruit of unlawful or criminal conduct.  In other words, did the money or property used to post bond come from legitimate sources?  The court may conduct a Nebbia hearing on its own motion.  However, the determination to hold a Nebbia hearing is left to the discretion of the court.  For example, in U.S. v. O’Brien, 895 F.2d 810 (1st Cir. 1990), the court held that even on motion by the government, the court ultimately retains discretion on whether or not to hold a Nebbia hearing.  Consequently, it is a not an automatic hearing that the State may invoke.

Who bears the burden of proof?

The burden of proof in a Nebbia hearing is on the Defendant and his/her family to prove that the bail funds or collateral come from legitimate, honest sources.  The reasoning behind placing the burden on the Defendant in a Nebbia hearing is the belief that the Defendant is in a better position to prove the legality of the assets.   If the State had the burden of proof, the Defendant’s release could be delayed, as the prosecutor would have to gather all relevant and discoverable evidence to investigate the source of the funds.

What kinds of cases involve Nebbia hearings?

Nebbia hearings are particularly common in narcotics and fraud cases, as the court is concerned that the bond money or collateral is coming from the very narcotics sales or fraudulent schemes that the Defendant is being charged with.   However, Nebbia hearings may come up in any criminal matter to ensure that the bond or conditions imposed will reasonably assure the defendant’s presence at trial.

(Edit to add link per JG:
http://www.arizonacriminaldefenseblog.com/2008/i-posted-my-bail-so-why-wont-they-let-me-out-of-jail/   MB)

[Bearlyhere]

Thanks Magnolia.   

Hey Bearly.   

Hey Trimm!

 

[my2cents]

Posted My Bail – So Why Won’t They Let Me Out of Jail?

So you posted your bond, you are ready to be released…ready to go home, but you are told the government will not let you go free until you have a Nebbia hearing.  In frustration, you ask “what is a Nebbia hearing?”

What is a Nebbia hearing?

A Nebbia hearing, named after the case of U.S. v. Nebbia, 357 F.2d 303 (C.A.N.Y. 1966), is a hearing in which the court must decide whether or not the money or property posted as bail is the fruit of unlawful or criminal conduct.  In other words, did the money or property used to post bond come from legitimate sources?  The court may conduct a Nebbia hearing on its own motion.  However, the determination to hold a Nebbia hearing is left to the discretion of the court.  For example, in U.S. v. O’Brien, 895 F.2d 810 (1st Cir. 1990), the court held that even on motion by the government, the court ultimately retains discretion on whether or not to hold a Nebbia hearing.  Consequently, it is a not an automatic hearing that the State may invoke.

Who bears the burden of proof?

The burden of proof in a Nebbia hearing is on the Defendant and his/her family to prove that the bail funds or collateral come from legitimate, honest sources.  The reasoning behind placing the burden on the Defendant in a Nebbia hearing is the belief that the Defendant is in a better position to prove the legality of the assets.   If the State had the burden of proof, the Defendant’s release could be delayed, as the prosecutor would have to gather all relevant and discoverable evidence to investigate the source of the funds.

What kinds of cases involve Nebbia hearings?

Nebbia hearings are particularly common in narcotics and fraud cases, as the court is concerned that the bond money or collateral is coming from the very narcotics sales or fraudulent schemes that the Defendant is being charged with.   However, Nebbia hearings may come up in any criminal matter to ensure that the bond or conditions imposed will reasonably assure the defendant’s presence at trial.
(Edit to add link per JG:
http://www.arizonacriminaldefenseblog.com/2008/i-posted-my-bail-so-why-wont-they-let-me-out-of-jail/  MB)

So Ron made bond and as soon as they decide the money did not come from drugs then he will get out? Do I understand this corrrectly?

[MuffyBee]

JG-  Do you have a link for the "Posted My Bail-...) article?  It's very informative but a link would be great.   

[Jerseygirl345]

Posted My Bail – So Why Won’t They Let Me Out of Jail?

So you posted your bond, you are ready to be released…ready to go home, but you are told the government will not let you go free until you have a Nebbia hearing.  In frustration, you ask “what is a Nebbia hearing?”

What is a Nebbia hearing?

A Nebbia hearing, named after the case of U.S. v. Nebbia, 357 F.2d 303 (C.A.N.Y. 1966), is a hearing in which the court must decide whether or not the money or property posted as bail is the fruit of unlawful or criminal conduct.  In other words, did the money or property used to post bond come from legitimate sources?  The court may conduct a Nebbia hearing on its own motion.  However, the determination to hold a Nebbia hearing is left to the discretion of the court.  For example, in U.S. v. O’Brien, 895 F.2d 810 (1st Cir. 1990), the court held that even on motion by the government, the court ultimately retains discretion on whether or not to hold a Nebbia hearing.  Consequently, it is a not an automatic hearing that the State may invoke.

Who bears the burden of proof?

The burden of proof in a Nebbia hearing is on the Defendant and his/her family to prove that the bail funds or collateral come from legitimate, honest sources.  The reasoning behind placing the burden on the Defendant in a Nebbia hearing is the belief that the Defendant is in a better position to prove the legality of the assets.   If the State had the burden of proof, the Defendant’s release could be delayed, as the prosecutor would have to gather all relevant and discoverable evidence to investigate the source of the funds.

What kinds of cases involve Nebbia hearings?

Nebbia hearings are particularly common in narcotics and fraud cases, as the court is concerned that the bond money or collateral is coming from the very narcotics sales or fraudulent schemes that the Defendant is being charged with.   However, Nebbia hearings may come up in any criminal matter to ensure that the bond or conditions imposed will reasonably assure the defendant’s presence at trial.
(Edit to add link per JG:
http://www.arizonacriminaldefenseblog.com/2008/i-posted-my-bail-so-why-wont-they-let-me-out-of-jail/  MB)

So Ron made bond and as soon as they decide the money did not come from drugs then he will get out? Do I understand this corrrectly?

I dont know.. I have a feeling Ron is out or getting out... Where is LP???
Now I don't know if there was an actual nebbia hearing on May 7th and Ron is released because they presented the burden of proof. Now I know there was a hearing according the criminal records for a reduction and if the reduction was granted maybe now he needs a nebbia hearing to be released.. Or maybe the reduction was granted and the nebbia hearing was all held on May 7th in court. I can't understand for this hearing right before Ron is due back in court on May 13th,2010.. Unless Ron is one step ahead of the game for May13th hearing..

2010-04-26 26 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

2010-05-06 27 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:30 PM 

2010-05-06 27 MOTION TO REDUCE BOND 

2010-05-06 28 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM 

2010-05-06 28 STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-05-06 28 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S 

2010-05-06 28 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING