Lively Case Discussion #578 1/24 - 1/28/2007

[San]

BB, I had seen the verse before and just thought that Shango was being cute with a play on words. Now if Abrahamoff owned a chopper named "Magic Transport", THAT would be interesting to say the least.

I caught the "XTC" tail number "coincidence" right off the bat.

I'm heading out for the night too, y'all. Sounds like we have suffered a big loss this day. Of course, this is infinitely more tough on his family.

We have to hope that others will take up the battle on Skeeters' behalf. I don't doubt they will.

SB - just to clarify.  Not Abramoff.  It's Russian Abramovich that owns the helicopter.

....and this boat.
http://www.roman-abramovich.com/pelorus-yacht-pictures-roman-abramovich.htm

Another impressive toy:

http://tinyurl.com/33uqa8

Good morning monkey friends....

Abramovich's new plane will be registered with the Aruba Civil Aviation Register, Netherlands, the same as his first Boeing, sources said.

[Cat]

As Montel just stated,"the congress protects child molesters,but not our identies."You can go to,20 states like FL,TX,Ca. and buy a profile of a person for 25.00.This is legal,scary but legal.Make yourself a hard target.Cat

[Mere]

You know...re Abramovich....I had searched for information on him in the past and knew of his wealth and power....but when you google him now, there seems to be much more....is there any reason to think he has ties to this case?

[klaasend]

Mere emailed me with this observation.  Does the sheet on the dead woman in todays Diario resemble the item in the cave?

[msmarple]

Goodmoring all!

This gal that was found drowned in Aruba I believe is the one that they were searching for a couple days ago.  It was reported at FOB.

MF posted 1/24/2007:

Police helicopter, the Red Cross, volunteers and others, are scouring the area behind Alto Vista. Since two days ago (48 hours) there has been an elderly woman missing. She left home and information is that she went to the chapel. Not much detail around this search right now.

Family and ALE has been searching for this person the last 2 days, and today this massive search is going on.

MF posted followup 1/24/2007:


Regrettably, the body of the elderly lady has been found by the ALE as of 50 minutes ago.

A taxi driver informed the ALE that he was asked by the lady to bring her to the church.

Also, Diario had a photo of the missing woman in their 1/24/2007 publication.

Yes, I remember seeing the article.

[klaasend]

You know...re Abramovich....I had searched for information on him in the past and knew of his wealth and power....but when you google him now, there seems to be much more....is there any reason to think he has ties to this case?

I'm not sure we want to go there.  I doubt there is any involvement.

[Mere]

Klaas...I was looking at the picture of the woman on the beach and the picture in the cave....both look like bodies covered with wet or damp sheets or some other covering....Thanks

[Mere]

You know...re Abramovich....I had searched for information on him in the past and knew of his wealth and power....but when you google him now, there seems to be much more....is there any reason to think he has ties to this case?

I'm not sure we want to go there.  I doubt there is any involvement.

Thanks....I thought that is where we left it a year or so ago....

[klaasend]

Klaas...I was looking at the picture of the woman on the beach and the picture in the cave....both look like bodies covered with wet or damp sheets or some other covering....Thanks

Yes, I know you were looking at the other photo of the woman, I just thought this pic might be more tasteful than the other  

[Ono]

Another suicide in Aruba? - Maria Petrocthi - front page of Diario.

Good grief...I bet the morticians there never rest.

[Mere]

Klaas...I was looking at the picture of the woman on the beach and the picture in the cave....both look like bodies covered with wet or damp sheets or some other covering....Thanks

Yes, I know you were looking at the other photo of the woman, I just thought this pic might be more tasteful than the other  

 

[Ono]

so being 66 years old is elderly?  I'd consider that being a senior, but  not elderly!

Heck,  my 97 year old grandma is still living and I consider her elderly as she now is in a nursing home because she can't care for herself.

I think down on Aruba 66 is considered elderly... ...doesn't seem many make it that far..

[Kimmy53]

RE:  The sheet - ya know it does look of similar color.

[SunFreak2]

Time for me to go to bed, but I will throw another kink into this already confusing set of verses.  

If you go to BB's link on the helicopters you will notice under the information about  registration/serial number/date the letters. XTC.  Now, I realize that the other two in the photos have this also.  Just a bit of mystery here...could this be a hint from Shango?

All those helicopters are P4 XTC's - that is the make/type of helicopter.
I looked at the picts of Abramovich's yacht.  Wow!  His helicopter's registration numbers are HX something.

I know with private airplanes/jets they use the owners initials plus some numbers.  My cousin used to be a co-owner of Jet-Ports, the private jet port next to the NASCAR track in Daytona. We could tell whose plane/jet it was by the initials.  Boy we used to have some fun at those races.  Got a ton of autographs & pictures with the drivers.  They called me Typhoid Mary b/c I had my picture taken with Davey Allison, Alan Kulwicki & Neil Bonnett all who died within the same year of me having my picture taken with them.      

[MsVada]

RE:  The sheet - ya know it does look of similar color.

white but with a tint of green?

[klaasend]

For anyone wondering what we go through with spam on the front page of SM, go to the Diario website and click on GUESTBOOK.  Most of those messages are SPAM  

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/1/26/

[Lala'sMom]

Time for me to go to bed, but I will throw another kink into this already confusing set of verses.  

If you go to BB's link on the helicopters you will notice under the information about  registration/serial number/date the letters. XTC.  Now, I realize that the other two in the photos have this also.  Just a bit of mystery here...could this be a hint from Shango?

All those helicopters are P4 XTC's - that is the make/type of helicopter.
I looked at the picts of Abramovich's yacht.  Wow!  His helicopter's registration numbers are HX something.

I know with private airplanes/jets they use the owners initials plus some numbers.  My cousin used to be a co-owner of Jet-Ports, the private jet port next to the NASCAR track in Daytona. We could tell whose plane/jet it was by the initials.  Boy we used to have some fun at those races.  Got a ton of autographs & pictures with the drivers.  They called me Typhoid Mary b/c I had my picture taken with Davey Allison, Alan Kulwicki & Neil Bonnett all who died within the same year of me having my picture taken with them.      

Thanks for clarifying that for me.  I meant to say this last night and just got sleepy.  It isn't any indication that there is anything sinister going on.  I was just making the observation that all of those helos had the same indication of XTC.  I doubt any correlation to the Shango verse.  Just me thinking out loud once again.

Excuse my manners. Hello monkeys, will only be here for a few minutes then gotta run.

[bleachedblack]

Afternoon Monkeys,

Lala's if you are here. this is the writing in full that I was talking about last night.

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Shango Says: July 27, 2005 9:54 pm

I see from afar with the eyes of god.

Shango has always said
the DirtyHand hid the SlanderFoot.

The hand has long fingers
which still caress the tender lamb
tucked away at manger
awaiting his fate.

Cowboys, don't step on the Herrings!
The SlanderFoot is whispering
with the Gods of Babylon.

Has not the DirtyHand walked in many circles?
Amongst the lions.....
And even now he summons help
from the Gods of Babylon.

Pleading for keys
to remain hidden
so that doors
may remain closed.

For how many can see
the strings of marionettes
as they are subtley
pulled by the gods?

The Arawaks whisper fervently...
Heads will roll
the fires which were dim
have brightened

the sleights of DirtyHand
have not sleightened....

but are still
at the root of this evil tree
and all of the "Plants"

If the DirtyHand
can't be washed
the SlanderFoot
must be amputated

For how can a lamb walk
without a foot?

Because I have revealed
many truths
Lions undiscovered
still pace nervously
in dark places

waiting to pounce.

And the consorts of Babylon
maintain contact with corrupt emissaries...


Research has shown scarcity or non-existence of Orisha Dopplegangers
Have faith in what has been attributed to me
The Ether remains my realm thanks to Obatala!

I have done my best
to illuminate the path
so do not beseige me
for vestiges of humanity

Nothing is seen with the eyes of god
if the cowries are not thrown

What Mary thought
was MagicTransport
was nothing but
Tragic Mansport

I see from afar with the eyes of God

I must feed the messengers
for I am Ojuobah
and thence Shango!

[Lala'sMom]

I asked last night without any success...what does Guido's family do for a living?  I know we have discussed this before, but I am having a senior moment.  That's not an elderly moment, btw, just senior.

[klaasend]

Afternoon Monkeys,

Lala's if you are here. this is the writing in full that I was talking about last night.

+++++++++++++++++
Shango Says: July 27, 2005 9:54 pm

I see from afar with the eyes of god.

Shango has always said
the DirtyHand hid the SlanderFoot.

The hand has long fingers
which still caress the tender lamb
tucked away at manger
awaiting his fate.

Cowboys, don't step on the Herrings!
The SlanderFoot is whispering
with the Gods of Babylon.

Has not the DirtyHand walked in many circles?
Amongst the lions.....
And even now he summons help
from the Gods of Babylon.

Pleading for keys
to remain hidden
so that doors
may remain closed.

For how many can see
the strings of marionettes
as they are subtley
pulled by the gods?

The Arawaks whisper fervently...
Heads will roll
the fires which were dim
have brightened

the sleights of DirtyHand
have not sleightened....

but are still
at the root of this evil tree
and all of the "Plants"

If the DirtyHand
can't be washed
the SlanderFoot
must be amputated

For how can a lamb walk
without a foot?

Because I have revealed
many truths
Lions undiscovered
still pace nervously
in dark places

waiting to pounce.

And the consorts of Babylon
maintain contact with corrupt emissaries...


Research has shown scarcity or non-existence of Orisha Dopplegangers
Have faith in what has been attributed to me
The Ether remains my realm thanks to Obatala!

I have done my best
to illuminate the path
so do not beseige me
for vestiges of humanity

Nothing is seen with the eyes of god
if the cowries are not thrown

What Mary thought
was MagicTransport
was nothing but
Tragic Mansport

I see from afar with the eyes of God

I must feed the messengers
for I am Ojuobah
and thence Shango!

Without knowing where it was posted I'm learing of it really being Shango.  I do not believe this was posted at SM.