Caylee Marie Anthony #162 5/10/10 - 5/22/10

[Cappuccino]

Approx page 44 of the new discovery released is mention of soil residue being found in the trunk - is it a match to Suburban Drive?

Looks to me that this defense team cannot defend Casey so they are going to attack chain of custody, contamination of evidence with a thrown in "someone other dude (any dude will do)" defense, not to mention an ongoing accusation of prosecutorial misconduct in an act of desperation.

Yes, I agree, it's going to be a very nasty fight against LE, prosecution, labs, professionals.

No doubt about it, there will be a big fight, and Linda Kenney Baden will be leading that fight, I believe that is her expertise.

With all due respect IMHO disagree that LKB will win much in this case, this is not the Spector trial for one & while she will fight to confuse the jury with possible minor errors there is a mountain of evidence that the defense will not overcome.  Even is she wins a point or two, it will be incidental to the rest that points to Casey's guilt.

[Western Observr]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-stations-highlight-prosecutions-interest-in-duct-tape.html
Casey Anthony: Stations highlight prosecution’s interest in duct tape
Caylee and Casey Anthony, WESH, WFTV, WOFL — posted by halboedeker on May, 21 2010 5:44 PM
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What do the latest release of documents in the Casey Anthony case mean?

WESH-Channel 2 says they offer a look at the prosecution’s strategy.

This afternoon, WESH’s Bob Kealing focused on FBI e-mails about three pieces of duct tape believed to be the murder weapon. Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

The pieces of tape varied from 9 and a half inches long to 7 and a half inches long. “Prosecutors wanted to know the exact measurements so they could do a digital reconstruction of how that tape was applied,” Kealing said. “An e-mail between FBI lab analysts sheds new light on what prosecutors want to know about the duct tape and how they plan to show it was used to asphyxiate Caylee Anthony.”

WOFL-Channel 35’s Holly Bristow also focused on an FBI e-mail about the duct tape. Bristow said, “One expert writes to the other, ‘Prosecutors have been asking investigators for specific measurements on this duct tape they say was found around Caylee’s nose and mouth before it was taken apart by investigators. … They want to know if it would be possible for the tape if it was to cover both the mouth and nose areas.”

Bristow added that the defense has told her that the tape did not cover the toddler’s mouth and nose and “they intend to prove that in court.”

WESH’s Kealing said that other documents released today reveal the state’s interest in Anthony’s letters to jail pen pal Robyn Adams and in authenticating Anthony’s handwriting.

“It’s another indication prosecutors plan to use as evidence the things that Casey wrote and said to her secret friend behind bars,” Kealing said.
Kealing noted that the defense says there is nothing confessional in Anthony’s remarks and writings.

WFTV-Channel 9’s Kathi Belich said the new documents could help the defense, which could use FBI communications to expose problems in the investigation. But she added, “Investigators are being upfront about it, which could defuse any defense argument.”

Belich highlighted a couple of points: A photo showed a hole in a package containing evidence. And the evidence from Anthony’s car went several places before the FBI tested it. WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said the defense could argue that evidence was compromised.

In their foreclosure case, George and Cindy Anthony were ordered into mediation yesterday with Bank of America, WFTV anchor Bob Opsahl reported.

I wonder why the Defense cares about the duct tape measurements if their client didn't kill her....

[SunnyinTX]

this is from WS....sorry I don't have the link as it was emailed to me


Quote:
Originally Posted by Riley1833 View Post
Good Day to all. I was reading on another site yesterday and some were discussing they think George is Caylee's father. I know Lee was disqualified and I was almost sure I had read that George was also disqualified, but I am not sure. Can someone please point me to where I might get the answer if both George and Lee were disqualified as Caylee's biodad? TIA

Sunny this response is from AZLawyer....she answers many legal questions and seems to know her stuff!
There is absolutely no chance of George being Caylee's father. The FBI didn't produce a report specifying that conclusion, because LE only asked them for a report about Lee. However, the FBI had George's DNA for other reasons (checking against DNA found on physical evidence) and did produce his DNA chart, as well as Caylee's and Casey's. If you know about DNA, you can read the charts and see that there is no way George could be Caylee's father.

[seemeatthebeach]

When this first started, remember Cindy called all Casey's friends to come over for a meeting.
Well Jessie and Annie, were there I think and Jessie mentioned calling someone that could help Casey. I got the impression that he ran a big hotel or owned it. Anyway, Jessie did phone
and whoever was out of town, but I think it was Jessie that got ahold of him and said he
would help. Mind you the A's tried to throw Jessie under the bus since then. But could this
big wig be Caylee's daddy. I've often wondered if Casey was into porn and also involved
Caylee into it. Ugly I know. But Casey was an ugly person. I don't have a link, but it was
brought up at that meeting.

I think the "list" of who could be Caylee's father is endless............same as the skank's "list of lies".........

Mary could that person been baez?

There is absolutely nothing to indicate that Casey knew of or ever saw Baez before she was arrested.  So I would have to say NO, Baez can be ruled out.

OMG...alert the media.......Baez made it to the "short" list

[carpe noctem]

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2010/0521/23631365.pdf

10-10-08

by: epm

page 217

Grandfather told police that trash bag was in trunk and then changed his story and said bag came from the body of the vehicle.

 

Shameful! Is it any wonder why this is the most loathed family in all of America?

[SunnyinTX]

My DH and I had an early diner with an attorney friend....I asked him if the State knew GA was Caylee's father what would they do. His opinion was GA would be in jail charged with incest. He said the repercussions of them knowing this and NOT persuing it would be  criminal. He also said he doubts IF this were true, that the state would continue with this as a DP case. They would have already offered her a plea. Please don't kill the messenger.  Just sharing what I was told by a professional, former ADA.

[SunnyinTX]

Approx page 44 of the new discovery released is mention of soil residue being found in the trunk - is it a match to Suburban Drive?

Looks to me that this defense team cannot defend Casey so they are going to attack chain of custody, contamination of evidence with a thrown in "someone other dude (any dude will do)" defense, not to mention an ongoing accusation of prosecutorial misconduct in an act of desperation.

Yes, I agree, it's going to be a very nasty fight against LE, prosecution, labs, professionals.

No doubt about it, there will be a big fight, and Linda Kenney Baden will be leading that fight, I believe that is her expertise.

Normally I would agree...but I really doubt JP is going to allow much fighting in his court room....LKB is gonna have to learm to play nice in his sandbox!

[SunnyinTX]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23631428/detail.html
State Sent Casey Jail Letters To FBI
Casey Anthony Charged With Murder In Death Of Daughter
POSTED: Friday, May 21, 2010
UPDATED: 12:07 pm EDT May 21, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Authorities on Friday released nearly 600 pages of information in the Casey Anthony murder case.
The documents show that the state sent the handwritten letters from Anthony to another inmate in the Orange County Jail to the FBI to be analyzed.

Every page and envelopes is included in the lab's inventory sheets. They are being compared to known samples of Anthony's handwriting, like a letter she wrote to Sheriff Kevin Beary a few months after her arrest.

The state also handed over information about the forensic experts who are conducting the tests, including how many times they have testified in court, in which cases and the outcome of those cases.

The documents were made public after the state shared the information with Anthony's defense team as part of the discovery process.

Anthony, 24, is jailed on first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in a wooded area in Orange County in December 2008.

Caylee was 2 years old when she was reported missing in July 2008.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty and has claimed that Caylee was taken by a baby sitter.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

So, to wrap up (heck, I just got home and have only read two pages!):

As usual, Bobo is having the State do his work for him. Bobo will not do anything to actually DEFEND his client, he will have the State pay him and the-beast-who-shall-remain-nameless big bucks to DEFLECT the State's evidence.  He's worthless.

Some days, I really hate discovery rules. Today is one of those days.

me too Tevye!!

[SunnyinTX]

When this first started, remember Cindy called all Casey's friends to come over for a meeting.
Well Jessie and Annie, were there I think and Jessie mentioned calling someone that could help Casey. I got the impression that he ran a big hotel or owned it. Anyway, Jessie did phone
and whoever was out of town, but I think it was Jessie that got ahold of him and said he
would help. Mind you the A's tried to throw Jessie under the bus since then. But could this
big wig be Caylee's daddy. I've often wondered if Casey was into porn and also involved
Caylee into it. Ugly I know. But Casey was an ugly person. I don't have a link, but it was
brought up at that meeting.

Mary, I do remember Jesse contacting someone with $$$ and owning a hotel..........but that's all I remember other than us speculating that this is who was paying BOZO

[Cappuccino]

When this first started, remember Cindy called all Casey's friends to come over for a meeting.
Well Jessie and Annie, were there I think and Jessie mentioned calling someone that could help Casey. I got the impression that he ran a big hotel or owned it. Anyway, Jessie did phone
and whoever was out of town, but I think it was Jessie that got ahold of him and said he
would help. Mind you the A's tried to throw Jessie under the bus since then. But could this
big wig be Caylee's daddy. I've often wondered if Casey was into porn and also involved
Caylee into it. Ugly I know. But Casey was an ugly person. I don't have a link, but it was
brought up at that meeting.

I think the "list" of who could be Caylee's father is endless............same as the skank's "list of lies".........

Mary could that person been baez?

There is absolutely nothing to indicate that Casey knew of or ever saw Baez before she was arrested.  So I would have to say NO, Baez can be ruled out.

If memory serves the person Jesse offered to call for help is a wealthy real estate investor

[seemeatthebeach]

this is from WS....sorry I don't have the link as it was emailed to me


Quote:
Originally Posted by Riley1833 View Post
Good Day to all. I was reading on another site yesterday and some were discussing they think George is Caylee's father. I know Lee was disqualified and I was almost sure I had read that George was also disqualified, but I am not sure. Can someone please point me to where I might get the answer if both George and Lee were disqualified as Caylee's biodad? TIA

Sunny this response is from AZLawyer....she answers many legal questions and seems to know her stuff!
There is absolutely no chance of George being Caylee's father. The FBI didn't produce a report specifying that conclusion, because LE only asked them for a report about Lee. However, the FBI had George's DNA for other reasons (checking against DNA found on physical evidence) and did produce his DNA chart, as well as Caylee's and Casey's. If you know about DNA, you can read the charts and see that there is no way George could be Caylee's father.

I agree.....IIRC Valhall aka thehinkymeter had an article a while back with the DNA profiles side by side, showing George and Caylee did not have matching alleles at genetic markers tested=NOT the daddy.

I think www.thehinkymeter.com website's server is down right now, but hopefully will be back sometime this evening for anyone interested in reading the great article.

[seemeatthebeach]

Approx page 44 of the new discovery released is mention of soil residue being found in the trunk - is it a match to Suburban Drive?

Looks to me that this defense team cannot defend Casey so they are going to attack chain of custody, contamination of evidence with a thrown in "someone other dude (any dude will do)" defense, not to mention an ongoing accusation of prosecutorial misconduct in an act of desperation.

Yes, I agree, it's going to be a very nasty fight against LE, prosecution, labs, professionals.

No doubt about it, there will be a big fight, and Linda Kenney Baden will be leading that fight, I believe that is her expertise.

Normally I would agree...but I really doubt JP is going to allow much fighting in his court room....LKB is gonna have to learm to play nice in his sandbox!

Add to that, LKB is boring...........she'll have to work to keep the jurors interested and awake IMO.

[SunnyinTX]

Good afternoon all, catching up and Have to comment.  I don't have any opinion regarding incest....That being said,  our daughter was single, 20 and pregnant.  The Daddy passed away a month before grandbaby was born, and our daughter had a high risk pregnancy, and was injecting herself with blood thinner meds throughout.  Her dad and I were in the labor room for the delivery.  Our daughter could have cared less if her dad would have been "under the sheet" while our grandbaby was born (he was not).  She was focussed on pushing and he stood by her side, handholding and encourageing her like a spouse would do.  The dr asked him to cut the cord, and he gladly did.  It was impulsive, not planned.  I know it sounds weird to alot of you, but you just had to be there...nothing corrupt about it.  We were blessed to share in the birth experience, period.

ddex, thanks for sharing your miracle with us

[SunnyinTX]

When this first started, remember Cindy called all Casey's friends to come over for a meeting.
Well Jessie and Annie, were there I think and Jessie mentioned calling someone that could help Casey. I got the impression that he ran a big hotel or owned it. Anyway, Jessie did phone
and whoever was out of town, but I think it was Jessie that got ahold of him and said he
would help. Mind you the A's tried to throw Jessie under the bus since then. But could this
big wig be Caylee's daddy. I've often wondered if Casey was into porn and also involved
Caylee into it. Ugly I know. But Casey was an ugly person. I don't have a link, but it was
brought up at that meeting.

I think the "list" of who could be Caylee's father is endless............same as the skank's "list of lies".........

Hi seeme!  I agree and until/unless it is proven different, I am going to continue to believe that Kc really wasn't sure who fathered Caylee.

[SunnyinTX]

Thanks for all the updates, hope the document dump is a good one    I was thinking last night about if George was Caylee's father, imo, if he was, the State would obviously know this, and no way do I think the DP would be on the table. Most people, including myself, would not go along with the DP if that were the case. I morally couldn't be on a jury and do such a thing, but that is me.

No rose...I think you have a good point...now that you say it, I believe, too, that if the State knew George was Caylee's dad they wouldn't go for the DP.

IMO it would just not make sense, I really don't think there would be a chance the jury would come back with the DP if George was the father. Not a popular opinion, but I don't think the jury will come back with the DP anyway. And since I'm as stubborn as they come, still think this will not go to trial.

NRCG---I agree with you.  I don't think any jury would vote to put Casey to death. She's young, fairly attractive, and I just don't think they'd do it.  In fact, I doubt I would do it.  I also think this will never come to trial.

Hi BB....I know I could vote to put her to death. And I vacillate back and forth about whether it's going to trial or not.

[carpe noctem]

Just the fact that they were even looking at Lee as a (possible father) should be a pretty good sized tip off to all - just where this thing is headed.

I will stick to my guns... but I perfectly understand and respect all others who do
not subscribe to my beliefs.

...and a big thank you to SM for letting us air our opinions. It is why I come here.

A lot of other forums are nut infested. SM appears to have a superb nut filter!

(No offense to our beloved resident Nut - who is a nut in name only.)

[SunnyinTX]

When this first started, remember Cindy called all Casey's friends to come over for a meeting.
Well Jessie and Annie, were there I think and Jessie mentioned calling someone that could help Casey. I got the impression that he ran a big hotel or owned it. Anyway, Jessie did phone
and whoever was out of town, but I think it was Jessie that got ahold of him and said he
would help. Mind you the A's tried to throw Jessie under the bus since then. But could this
big wig be Caylee's daddy. I've often wondered if Casey was into porn and also involved
Caylee into it. Ugly I know. But Casey was an ugly person. I don't have a link, but it was
brought up at that meeting.

I think the "list" of who could be Caylee's father is endless............same as the skank's "list of lies".........

Mary could that person been baez?

There is absolutely nothing to indicate that Casey knew of or ever saw Baez before she was arrested.  So I would have to say NO, Baez can be ruled out.

OMG...alert the media.......Baez made it to the "short" list

 

[SunnyinTX]

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2010/0521/23631365.pdf

10-10-08

by: epm

page 217

Grandfather told police that trash bag was in trunk and then changed his story and said bag came from the body of the vehicle.

 

Shameful! Is it any wonder why this is the most loathed family in all of America?

Hi Carpe!!  No wonder at all...............sick bunch of pond scum

[SunnyinTX]

this is from WS....sorry I don't have the link as it was emailed to me


Quote:
Originally Posted by Riley1833 View Post
Good Day to all. I was reading on another site yesterday and some were discussing they think George is Caylee's father. I know Lee was disqualified and I was almost sure I had read that George was also disqualified, but I am not sure. Can someone please point me to where I might get the answer if both George and Lee were disqualified as Caylee's biodad? TIA

Sunny this response is from AZLawyer....she answers many legal questions and seems to know her stuff!
There is absolutely no chance of George being Caylee's father. The FBI didn't produce a report specifying that conclusion, because LE only asked them for a report about Lee. However, the FBI had George's DNA for other reasons (checking against DNA found on physical evidence) and did produce his DNA chart, as well as Caylee's and Casey's. If you know about DNA, you can read the charts and see that there is no way George could be Caylee's father.

I agree.....IIRC Valhall aka thehinkymeter had an article a while back with the DNA profiles side by side, showing George and Caylee did not have matching alleles at genetic markers tested=NOT the daddy.

I think www.thehinkymeter.com website's server is down right now, but hopefully will be back sometime this evening for anyone interested in reading the great article.

thanks seeme....I remember reading that....I had to go through it several times.

[trimmonthelake]

Seeme....that was funny.