Caylee Marie Anthony #163 5/22/10 - 6/25/10

[TURBOTHINK]

http://www.wesh.com/news/23660042/detail.html
Depositions Slated In Anthony Case
Neighbor Says He Saw Anthony Back Car Into Garage

POSTED: 3:39 pm EDT May 24, 2010
UPDATED: 4:13 pm EDT May 24, 2010
ORLANDO, Fla. --
New depositions are scheduled on Friday in the case against Casey Anthony.

Anthony's defense team is scheduled to depose five people. They include a neighbor who said Anthony borrowed a shovel from him the same week that investigators said they believe Caylee Anthony was killed.

Brian Burner said he also saw Anthony back her car into the family garage.

Authorities said they believe Anthony drove around with Caylee's body in the trunk before dumping the remains in the woods near the Anthony family's home.

Anthony is being held in the Orange County Jail on a first-degree murder charge in connection with Caylee's death.

Brian Burner was also the one who KC borrowed the shovel from because they did his DNA to rule out any of his on the shovel.

[Curly]

Bingo, Turbo.

 
"Something which I have considered is the federal government can “snapshot” any time period with satellite and I wonder if the FBI has those snapshots of the location of the body for the dates from June 16th to July which they are going to use. It would show any car there day or night and could identify anyone in the pictures. It is amazing what NASA has of that area. The timing would be about right for the FBI to get those satellite shots when they decided on the death penalty."

I wonder if they can search until they find exactly what they're looking for..Like the disposal of the body, what she was doing with the shovel, etc?

I just read about a case recently where satellite imaging was used to determine the last known whereabouts of a woman that was missing. I remember being so impressed with it, but I can't remember which case it was or where I read about it.

I have read about a number of situations where they have been able to pinpoint within minutes the person and what they were doing. It is rather scary if you think about how anyone of us could be watched at any given time.

I read where the images are available for years, so it is not like they are lost, just how much money would a DA need to spend to get the snapshots. I think I read where it is not that expensive if it is within 120 days but after that it starts getting pricey. The discovery of the body would be pressing the envelope time wise but would have been under that 120 days time line.

I read where they used the images to find a plane that had been missing over 2 years, so it may not be as pricey as one would think.

I thought about that part of it as well...Big brother and all, but if they could use this technology in this and Haleigh's case, it would put and end to all the lies and bs. They could possibly solve any and every murder case. Pretty incredible.

[bikerbev]

Something I left off that last musing was it was very interesting to me that the Anthonys got rid of their washer, dryer, and freezer and replaced them after Caylee was missing. WHO would even think of doing something like that when their grand child was missing and they were claiming at that time kidnapped. bolded by me

But why didn't they replace the vaccum cleaner, too?  That would have more forensic evidence in it than the washer/dryer IMO.  I could George directing Cindy, in a detective sort of manner, telling her what the police are gonna look at for evidence and telling her to get rid of it or to use what cleaning fluids on it to clean it up. 

It is very possible (and most likely IMO) they did get rid of the vacuums too. They would never be noticed like the W/D, freezer because they were in the house and not noticeable to the eye of the public like the others.

Car in garage -Garage door closed - put in back of van or car and dumped then come back with exact replicas of them. Or maybe not even exact ones. No one would know they replaced them because they did not have a housekkeeper. My housekeeper would know immediately if I replaced mine. (and would be very grateful too!!)

Haha..when my 'tools' of housework break down and dh doesn't want to replace I ask him if it was his tools at work, would he replace them?  Of course he answers yes, so I get my new housework tools, but yeah, you're right.  Who really knows if they replaced them or not as we didn't see the 'old' ones.  With all the appliances having been replaced and the car cleaned AND with the excuse it was the pizza that smelled (even though there was a bag of garbage---uck--in the trunk, well, it looks like a guilty verdict to me.  But that just me. 

[Blumonkey]

Question please?  Is it a fact that the A's replaced a freezer, washer, and dryer?  I really don't remeber reading that early on, and very disturbing....

I'm not sure where this all started, but I remember reading it. Lenny, is that who said it?   Thanks Sunny for the list 

I believe it is in this transcript .
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../22/ng.01.html

Thank you Trimm,  the link is not working for me, but can I assume this would be a comment coming from Lenny?

Yes,it was him.I got the link for you,and I hope LE tested the washer and dryer.   
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/22/ng.01.html
<snipped>
GRACE: To bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who actually has searched for little Caylee. Leonard, what do you make of this link, which looks to be a direct link between the trash bag at the home and the trash bag used - - excuse me, the trash bag containing the skeleton of little Caylee and the bags used at the home?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: It`s pretty direct. And I`ll tell you something else that kind of surprised me. When we were there, the garbage bags had red ties. However, we understood that the ties were yellow prior to us being there and the bag that they found had a yellow tie. And also, if you look at the washer and dryers in the television films that were taken, before we were there, they were one color, and after we arrived, it seemed as though they were different.
<snipped>

Padilla makes no mention of a freezer being replaced and says the washer and dryer "seemed as though they were different" when compared to television films. There is no mention of a freezer at all.

[Curly]

I can't think of one thing that Leonard has said that has been true.

Didn't the A's have a multitude of vacuum cleaners?
I know the ones that were in the house were taken into evidence, but who knows if those were new vacuums already or not.

As the for the garbage bag ties...If you shop in Publix sometimes the ties are red and sometimes they're yellow. It's not really a big mystery, Leonard.

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20100524,0,2773285.story
New documents filed in Casey Anthony case
 By Amy L. Edwards, Orlando Sentinel

5:21 p.m. EDT, May 24, 2010
New documents were filed by prosecutors and the defense team in the first-degree murder case against Casey Anthony case Monday.

One item filed by prosecutors was in response to a defense request asking the judge to order the state to provide certain forensic information, including details about labs that performed tests on evidence.

In his response, Assistant State Attorney Jeff Ashton said certain items requested by Casey Anthony's defense team are not in the possession of the state or any of its agencies.

Ashton wrote that the state shouldn't be compelled to obtain additional information — known as discovery — that Casey Anthony's defense team can "easily" obtain on their own.

Ashton provided the court with a chart detailing items requested by Casey Anthony's defense. He indicated which items are not discoverable under Florida statute.

Meanwhile, defense attorney Jose Baez filed an amended deposition notice. Among the people scheduled to be questioned under oath by the defense team: a neighbor of the Anthony family and an Orange County Sheriff's Office employee.

[Puzzler]

My musings Part II from last night

When Tony picked up KC in front of the check cashing place, she had frozen food from her freezer in bags from home. Could it be that she needed the space in the freezer for Caylee for a few days until she could get back there and move the body?  How easy it would be to take everything out of the freezer sit it aside put the body in the bottom and then cover it all back up with the other food; hide the key for a day and get back to moving the body later?  Since the body was not in the car at that time it had to be somewhere.  Which takes me to the “grave wax.” They did find grave wax on a paper towel in the trunk and grave wax (Adipocere) on the hair according to the FBI report.
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2010/0521/23631365.pdf

http://www.wesh.com/news/21714207/detail.html

Going back to the freezer and the grave wax. Many times bodies which have been frozen in a closed bag or container will develop grave wax because of the lack of air circulation.  A small child with fatty tissue would be more susceptible to grave wax. I have had my suspicions about that freezer from the beginning. KC backed her car in the garage on Monday after the 15th weekend. If she could not get the baby buried in the back yard, then what about stuffing her in garbage bags and putting her in the freezer with the other food on top of her for a few days until she could get rid of the body. If she did put her in the freezer when she put her in the car trunk again, the body would almost immediately go to mush in the Florida heat. KC never thought about that happening and that is why the fluids leaked all over the trunk. If she put her in there during the day while the Anthony’s were gone by the time night time came where she could dump it, it would have been mush and all it would take would be a small prick in the bag for it to spew all over that trunk when she got the body out. She could have caught the bag on anything, including the trunk latch and opps…………..maybe she even made a small hole in the bag when getting it out of the freezer and the seepage was fast and furious once the heat of the day came.
I really don’t think she had dumped it right away. I think she used Tony’s car to dump the body so no one would recognize hers there. If you remember he left right after that to go to NYC and she kept his car.   If I remember correctly, he did give LE his vehicle to inspect and there has been no documents available on that yet. There was also the “break in” at his apartment while he was gone. I believe that was her also because he would not let her have his key. Whatever she had hidden there she had to get.
 
Something which I have considered is the federal government can “snapshot” any time period with satellite and I wonder if the FBI has those snapshots of the location of the body for the dates from June 16th to July which they are going to use. It would show any car there day or night and could identify anyone in the pictures. It is amazing what NASA has of that area. The timing would be about right for the FBI to get those satellite shots when they decided on the death penalty.

I have always believed she tried to originally put the baby in the back yard but could not dig a hole with the hard dirt so she scrapped that plan after dropping decomp all over the place or she tried to rinse off the blankets she used to hide the baby in right after she first killed her.  I can’t decide where she killed her. I still think right there in that house. My reasoning for that is she went back there during the days when everyone was at work.  If she didn’t kill her there she killed her in the car the night she left their house in a rage and then went back there the next day to try to do something with the body.  She was seen walking around a hotel parking lot in the phone.

I had originally thought she went to Lee’s first that night because of closeness of his house. It was told that he was in Chicago that night but I am not so sure about that. He was the one who told about CA choking KC. He told it in the first person then told that GA told him about it so what the truth is about that who knows? 
He also told it as a June 9th event and we all know now from the neighbor’s account it was the 15th. They kind of messed up the “script” when choosing their dates to use between the neighbor’s account of the evening and the nursing home.  The confusion of the date also led me to believe they had a script.  NO ONE forgets the last time they saw their grandbaby forever.  They were so busy trying to cover up for KC they got it mixed up.  I am not even sure they were going to tell anything about the nursing home at all but the police took the computer and cameras then found it. Maybe there was a reason why the 9th of June had to be the script date that we don’t know yet.

The story GA told about the last time he saw her and KC never resonated right with me. His total recall of the times and then the description of their clothing was nonsense for a man. Men are not that perceptive about clothing or time.  He had all of that down too pat and of course the clothing description we all know now was totally different than what Caylee was found in. Of course it was because she was already dead that day. They made all of that up.  He told once that he fed Caylee breakfast then he told another time that they came out of the room like they did everyday about that time.  So how could she be working (which he knew she wasn’t) if she did not come out of her room until after noon?  CA said she did not see Caylee or KC that morning. What 2 year old is going to stay in their room with NO FOOD until noon? What did GA and KC hide from CA while she was at work on a regular bais?  I have always thought between GA’s gambling and the Craig’s list ads something else was going on in the household between GA & KC.  Not necessarily sexual at that time, but maybe an escort service, drugs or something else. I just have had a feeling there is a lot more to come out. GA was not surprised at the “photos” of KC on the web and he was the only one they showed the pictures to. Why not Lee or CA? Interesting.  I also have my doubts about how honest and involved Annie was in KC’s life. Something is just not right there either.

I keep thinking there was some reason KC went to Jessie’s apartment that day “to take a shower.” There was something in that house she wanted to try to use to later incriminate Jesse. Her mother was furious at his parents by that time and she was up to something. I always wondered if she tried to get some hair from his brush or something from his place which she could use later to implicate him although no one but her knew Caylee was dead at that time. She KNEW she was dead.  Since she was talking to GA at that time on their “side phones” could he have already have known Caylee was dead and advised her on this? I still do not see GA as the helpless victim in all of this. I see him as very involved on so many levels. Like LE said “you know a lot about a lot of things.”

Still thinking...............more later..........

Turbo...thanks for putting your musing in writing.

It's good for us to keep going back over what we know...as time goes on and the little bits of info that are let out by LE, we can look back and put little pieces together like a puzzle.  I think you have a down-to-earth approach in your thinking.  And, I agree with you on the areas where you say there's more going on that we don't know yet.

I'm really honed in right now on George's training about dead bodies and yet he drove that car off the car lot and he WENT TO WORK...just can't get over that part.  To me it shows that George and Cindy KNEW right then...before Cindy found Casey...that Casey had done something to Caylee (maybe they didn't know it 100%, but they sure knew it 99%) IMO


 

[Puzzler]

Something I left off that last musing was it was very interesting to me that the Anthonys got rid of their washer, dryer, and freezer and replaced them after Caylee was missing. WHO would even think of doing something like that when their grand child was missing and they were claiming at that time kidnapped. 

I believe this should be evidence toward George and Cindy obstructing justice...the washer/dryer (evidence of decomp) and the same for the freezer (I kept saying the LE should go check out the freezer) WHY didn't LE check out the freezer?

[Puzzler]

Bingo, Turbo.

 
"Something which I have considered is the federal government can “snapshot” any time period with satellite and I wonder if the FBI has those snapshots of the location of the body for the dates from June 16th to July which they are going to use. It would show any car there day or night and could identify anyone in the pictures. It is amazing what NASA has of that area. The timing would be about right for the FBI to get those satellite shots when they decided on the death penalty."

I wonder if they can search until they find exactly what they're looking for..Like the disposal of the body, what she was doing with the shovel, etc?

I just read about a case recently where satellite imaging was used to determine the last known whereabouts of a woman that was missing. I remember being so impressed with it, but I can't remember which case it was or where I read about it.

I have read about a number of situations where they have been able to pinpoint within minutes the person and what they were doing. It is rather scary if you think about how anyone of us could be watched at any given time.

I read where the images are available for years, so it is not like they are lost, just how much money would a DA need to spend to get the snapshots. I think I read where it is not that expensive if it is within 120 days but after that it starts getting pricey. The discovery of the body would be pressing the envelope time wise but would have been under that 120 days time line.

I read where they used the images to find a plane that had been missing over 2 years, so it may not be as pricey as one would think.

Would love, love, love for LE to prove that KC and her car were at the site where Caylee was dumped like trash!

[Desdemona]

  to Sunny,  to Deenie (who said hi in another thread), a big  to Brandi, who gave me the pretty windchimes, and to all Monkeys...

Has anyone read this book?

Winky, by Clifford Chase

http://www.groveatlantic.com/grove/bin/wc.dll?groveproc~genauth~5188~0

Casey talked about it in her letters to Robyn.

The cover picture is interesting.  The story involves a sensational trial, an attorney named "Unwin" (yep, un-win), a very special baby(bear) who is born and disappears and is presented as an otherworldly saint, and a defendant(a teddy bear; mother of the baby) who is charged with thousands of crimes and roundly (and wrongly) despised by the multitudes.

I haven't read it.  Would love to hear from anyone who has.

[TURBOTHINK]

Something I left off that last musing was it was very interesting to me that the Anthonys got rid of their washer, dryer, and freezer and replaced them after Caylee was missing. WHO would even think of doing something like that when their grand child was missing and they were claiming at that time kidnapped. 

I believe this should be evidence toward George and Cindy obstructing justice...the washer/dryer (evidence of decomp) and the same for the freezer (I kept saying the LE should go check out the freezer) WHY didn't LE check out the freezer?

It is possible they did and we just don't know anything about it yet. It could be when those were taken out of the house LE had warrants for them and picked them right up and tested them. I sure am hoping that was the case. I know they tested the house with luminol but I don't remember reading where they did the garage. I remember they took a rug out of the house.

I kept wanting them to take all those coolers that were on the shelves in the garage too, but I don't remember them doing that. It would seem to me ANYTHING which could "store" are small child's body would be suspect in a murder investigation.

[trimmonthelake]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/05/casey-anthony-zenaida-gonzalezs-lawyers-want-to-talk-to-jail-pen-pal.html
Casey Anthony: Zenaida Gonzalez’s lawyers want to talk to jail pen pal
Caylee and Casey Anthony, WESH, WFTV — posted by halboedeker on May, 24 2010 6:16 PM
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What’s new in the Casey Anthony saga?

First, the civil case: Zenaida Gonzalez’s lawyers want to talk to Robyn Adams, Anthony’s former pen pal in the Orange County Jail, WFTV-Channel 9 reported. Gonzalez is suing Anthony for defamation for linking her to Caylee Anthony’s disappearance.

WFTV anchor Bob Opsahl noted that Anthony wrote in one letter that “she knows Zenaida Gonzalez, Caylee’s alleged nanny, had nothing to do with her daughter’s disappearance.” Adams, a convicted drug dealer, is in federal prison.

In the Anthony murder case, the state responded today to  a defense request for documents. “The defense wants resumes for sheriff’s investigators whom it  calls experts, but prosecutors say they are not considered experts under the law,” Opsahl said.

WESH-Channel 2 anchor Martha Sugalski said that on Friday the Anthony defense team is scheduled to depose five people, including a neighbor from whom Anthony borrowed a shovel.

Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee.

[SunnyinTX]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-documents-20100524,0,2773285.story
New documents filed in Casey Anthony case
 By Amy L. Edwards, Orlando Sentinel

5:21 p.m. EDT, May 24, 2010
New documents were filed by prosecutors and the defense team in the first-degree murder case against Casey Anthony case Monday.

One item filed by prosecutors was in response to a defense request asking the judge to order the state to provide certain forensic information, including details about labs that performed tests on evidence.

In his response, Assistant State Attorney Jeff Ashton said certain items requested by Casey Anthony's defense team are not in the possession of the state or any of its agencies.

Ashton wrote that the state shouldn't be compelled to obtain additional information — known as discovery — that Casey Anthony's defense team can "easily" obtain on their own.

Ashton provided the court with a chart detailing items requested by Casey Anthony's defense. He indicated which items are not discoverable under Florida statute.

Meanwhile, defense attorney Jose Baez filed an amended deposition notice. Among the people scheduled to be questioned under oath by the defense team: a neighbor of the Anthony family and an Orange County Sheriff's Office employee.

thanks trim....I can't wait to read these new motions....I love how quick Ashton!  Looks like BOZO is loving spending Floridians tax money!!

[SunnyinTX]

to Sunny,  to Deenie (who said hi in another thread), a big  to Brandi, who gave me the pretty windchimes, and to all Monkeys...

Has anyone read this book?

Winky, by Clifford Chase

http://www.groveatlantic.com/grove/bin/wc.dll?groveproc~genauth~5188~0

Casey talked about it in her letters to Robyn.

The cover picture is interesting.  The story involves a sensational trial, an attorney named "Unwin" (yep, un-win), a very special baby(bear) who is born and disappears and is presented as an otherworldly saint, and a defendant(a teddy bear; mother of the baby) who is charged with thousands of crimes and roundly (and wrongly) despised by the multitudes.

I haven't read it.  Would love to hear from anyone who has.

WOOHOO.....Desi! I am SO GLAD TO SEE YOU!!!!  I haven't read it but I will now.

[TURBOTHINK]

thanks trim....I can't wait to read these new motions....I love how quick Ashton!  Looks like BOZO is loving spending Floridians tax money!!

I looked on all the web sites to see if anyone had them posted but could not find them. I can't wait to see what that idiot BOZO has filed now and been kicked in the teeth by the SA once again in the answer.

[Ono]

thanks trim....I can't wait to read these new motions....I love how quick Ashton!  Looks like BOZO is loving spending Floridians tax money!!

I looked on all the web sites to see if anyone had them posted but could not find them. I can't wait to see what that idiot BOZO has filed now and been kicked in the teeth by the SA once again in the answer.

It's always an absolute joy to observe the SA in action!     

[Ono]

Something I left off that last musing was it was very interesting to me that the Anthonys got rid of their washer, dryer, and freezer and replaced them after Caylee was missing. WHO would even think of doing something like that when their grand child was missing and they were claiming at that time kidnapped. 

I believe this should be evidence toward George and Cindy obstructing justice...the washer/dryer (evidence of decomp) and the same for the freezer (I kept saying the LE should go check out the freezer) WHY didn't LE check out the freezer?

It is possible they did and we just don't know anything about it yet. It could be when those were taken out of the house LE had warrants for them and picked them right up and tested them. I sure am hoping that was the case. I know they tested the house with luminol but I don't remember reading where they did the garage. I remember they took a rug out of the house.

I kept wanting them to take all those coolers that were on the shelves in the garage too, but I don't remember them doing that. It would seem to me ANYTHING which could "store" are small child's body would be suspect in a murder investigation.

I'm hoping that much was examined which we still are unaware of--never have I ever seen such an array of storage compartments in a garage before--it was mind-numbing to me.  An absolute fetish of sorts, imo.

[Brandi]

to Sunny,  to Deenie (who said hi in another thread), a big  to Brandi, who gave me the pretty windchimes, and to all Monkeys...

Has anyone read this book?

Winky, by Clifford Chase

http://www.groveatlantic.com/grove/bin/wc.dll?groveproc~genauth~5188~0

Casey talked about it in her letters to Robyn.

The cover picture is interesting.  The story involves a sensational trial, an attorney named "Unwin" (yep, un-win), a very special baby(bear) who is born and disappears and is presented as an otherworldly saint, and a defendant(a teddy bear; mother of the baby) who is charged with thousands of crimes and roundly (and wrongly) despised by the multitudes.

I haven't read it.  Would love to hear from anyone who has.

Always good to see you, Desi!

Not heard of the book before now.

Interesting.

[Curly]

This is what Amazon says about the book~

Editorial Reviews
From Publishers Weekly
Starred Review. This debut novel from memoirist Chase (The Hurry-up Song) begins with the capture and wounding by a SWAT team of the eponymous, sentient teddy bear in a backwoods cabin; the team thinks it has captured a mad bomber. In jail, Winkie, who no one denies is a teddy bear, must contend with cruel jailers; his stuttering, court-appointed lawyer named Unwin; the 9,678 counts of everything from treason to witchcraft he's charged with; and the intersection of his life with that of the previous possessor of the cabin, an old humanities professor whose bombs never worked. While marking time, Winkie contemplates his past: his ownership by the Chase family, his loneliness when on a shelf , his magical awakening to life one morning—marked by a bowel movement so lovingly described that it recalls Bloom's in Ulysses. The sections devoted to Winkie's trial is a minor masterpiece of ridiculousness, in which the prosecution's move to end the trial after it has presented its side sounds uncomfortably close to what we read in the newspapers. This book is way too odd to be sentimental, and its political sensibility shuttles easily between the cartoonish and the shrewd. Chase puts himself in the same league as David Sedaris with this unclassifiable debut. (July)
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.
From Booklist
*Starred Review* With the recent controversy over domestic spying, the literary world is ripe for skewering America's unwieldy War on Terror--but good. In this wryly comic, paradoxically touching first novel, Chase delivers a cleverly original allegory on the absurdities of our terror-obsessed culture. After suffering years of neglect by children who have grown and moved on, a tattered teddy bear named Winkie miraculously discovers the power of movement and runs away to the forest to begin a new life. Unfortunately, this particular forest has been pigeonholed as the hideout for a notorious terrorist, and militant FBI agents quickly surround Winkie with drawn weapons and whirling helicopters. Unsure quite what to make of the diminutive quadruped--Is he a Middle-Eastern midget or a bizarre genetic experiment?--the authorities nevertheless trot out their standard interrogation techniques while charging the little bear with unparalleled barbarism. In the surrealistic courtroom circus that follows, Winkie faces a gauntlet of bizarre witnesses from the trials of Socrates, Galileo, and Oscar Wilde--an ordeal he endures by retreating into memories of the early years that nurtured his awakening. Inspired by a stuffed animal from his childhood (photographs of the bona fide Winkie are sprinkled throughout), Chase turns in a masterfully measured social critique featuring a protagonist as endearing as any from the classics of childhood literature. Carl Hays
Copyright © American Library Association. All rights reserved --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

Has pretty good reviews but not my type of story.

[ISpy]

Evening, all!  Catching up and wanted to say thanks for bringing forward the recent doc dump highlights, if you will.  While I realize it's a necessary formality, it bothers me that Caylee's thread is listed as Caylee Anthony (BODY FOUND).  Each time I see that I think, "Is that all she's reduced to...a body found?".  How incredibly sad.  However, maybe that's a good thing in that those of us who have "gotten to know her", she matters and that's why we're here day after day, night after night.  She matters to us, even though she doesn't to the Anthonys.  Any of them who say differently are lying and we all know it.  If I lived in FL, I'd make every effort to be in that courtroom, with a Caylee t-shirt, sitting firmly entrenched on her side (one of the few times I've ever wished to live in FL  ). It's my hope and will be my prayer that Linda Drane Burdick goes to great lengths to humanize Caylee, to paint Caylee on the hearts and minds of jurors like a master artist.  Caylee deserves that and so much more. She deserves to be more than Exhibit A/B/C/D.  She deserves more than the prerequisite (And passing) mention she got at her memorial. She was so much more than a few germane sentences, written perfunctorily it seemed, devoid of Caylee's personality and warmth, and falling emotionally flat.  I think I could better eulogize that toddler, in all her precociousness, than her "family" did.  Children that age are so delightful, full of all the newfound wonders in the world around them, delighting in their new abilities (like hopping on one foot), proud of their accomplishments ("Watch me, _______[insert favored person's name]), and their rapidly expanding verbal skills.  Of course, they're sometimes equally strong-willed, in need of some instruction/correction/discipline too.    But what a package they are!  Each as different as the day is long.

IMO, that was part of the problem for Caylee.  She was never allowed to be an individual...not even her name.  As most of you have already said, she was a prop in the Perfect Family Fantasy, directed and produced by Anthony family Productions.  Their whole lives have been nothing but drama per their own statements.  With all that was going on in her young life (regularly being drug from pillar to post, no comforting set schedule for bedtimes/naps/baths, little to no fun playdates with children her age, witnessing her mother and her grandparents yelling and screaming at each other-scary at any age, and knowing intuitively that it had something to do with her), I am 100% Caylee acted out some.  What child wouldn't?  Yet, even in that, Cindy could not allow Caylee to be herself.  At the memorial, she exaggerated how "perfect" Caylee was. What is so wrong with Cindy that she cannot allow anyone to exist (and dare I say, thrive?) apart from her?  I don't say this to be funny or nasty.  Cindy desperately needs to get herself to a therapist (yesterday) because there is really something wrong with her.  In healthy relationships, parents exult in their children's blossoming independence (yes, even while somewhat mourning  ).  Good parents carefully plant and cultivate those seeds and nurture their children into full-grown adults. It's like Caylee was merely an extension of Casey (or Cindy per her My Caylee Is Missing).
IMO, when Lee and Casey came along, George found himself the odd man out and began looking elsewhere.  Judging by the behaviors we've seen, Cindy most likely made her children her world.  Logic would dictate that he, like many other men in similar situations, began engaging in "risky" behavior (like gambling, affairs, etc.)-perhaps to gain attention.  After all, some attention is better than no attention.  Perhaps to self-medicate, who knows?  To hear different family members tell it, the marriage was on the brink of divorce (and Cindy losing half her assets and possibly paying George alimony), when George moved back in and they reconciled.  Then along comes Caylee and Cindy is again consumed with a child.  Except now, she is directing Casey's life, as well as Caylee's (Lee was smart enough to move out). Hence, George briefly moving out after Caylee's birth.  Not implying that George didn't love Caylee here.  Just saying husbands don't take too kindly to being displaced by their children or grandchildren.  Cindy, for whatever reason, assumes ownership of Caylee.  Is it no wonder there was constant tension, strife, striving, competition, and confrontations within the family?

Finally, IMO, Lee is in a unique position.  On one hand, he's fairly loyal to his mother (he's defended her on more than one occasion and was careful not to damage her too much in his ZG depo).  We've never really seen or heard him come out with equal support for George though.  Perhaps he views George as ineffective?  On the other hand, he is clearly Casey's confidante, "partner-in-crime" in deceiving the parents over the years in various escapades.  Lee is what's commonly known as the Family Secret-Keeper. Like George, he knows a lot about a lot of things.  Lee's the go-to guy, the rescuer, the peace-maker.  The best thing Lee could do for his family is to turn down the role of Supporting Actor because the secrets he's keeping aren't worth the price.  All MOO