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« Reply #840 on: February 01, 2007, 02:36:56 PM »

CAT - I suppose Glenda is referring to the same Lorenzo van Rijn but I also feel the Lorenzo, Scooby, Pitbull comment from is FOS.
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« Reply #841 on: February 01, 2007, 02:40:56 PM »

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« Reply #842 on: February 01, 2007, 02:42:19 PM »

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« Reply #843 on: February 01, 2007, 02:44:24 PM »

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« Reply #844 on: February 01, 2007, 03:14:59 PM »

I have a copy of the PDF, 18 page response from Dr. Phil's attorneys to the Kalpoe suit that was filed 1/26/2007.  I'll do screen captures and post ASAP.
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« Reply #845 on: February 01, 2007, 03:16:46 PM »

San,you have my humor,but with real talent.Yes Klass I was suprised they would drop his name,period.Of course as we have seen suicide is contagious in aruba.Cage moniter,I have not cussed,blame the others,I am full of mbb.Klass ,I learnes a few things I can write about today,that saddens me.The question I have is this,on the jury trial issue is;is it the first case(dr Phil is the defendant)or second case(kalpoes and assorted John Does)Cat
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« Reply #846 on: February 01, 2007, 03:41:15 PM »

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Perhaps MF at FOB doesn't see how bizarre and demented it would seem to do those things to the body of a suicide victim or any dead person.  It simply doesn't seem very plausible to us.  Perhaps this kind of behavior isn't as difficult for them to understand, so they believe the accidental suicide story.   Rolling Eyes  Confused  Shocked  Evil or Very Mad


Good morning.

Clearly they believe whatever they are told whether it makes sense or not.


Hey Peaches!  I am still praying for you; not hard to remember you because I used to tell my kitty she was a peach all the time.   Smile  

I used to think that Arubans didn't get our news reports so they had a much different perspective of the Holloway case that was based on the media in Aruba that, like the government, doesn't want there to be crime there.  But with these other cases, we only know what's printed in Aruban or Caribbean news and they still believe this nonsense.   Rolling Eyes Do they put stupid pills in the water or something?  Check the desalination plant immediately, please!
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« Reply #847 on: February 01, 2007, 03:44:33 PM »

San that is too funny!   Laughing I have to see if I still have the tape of her Kimberly interview where she says she's not real religious but believes in positive energy.  Well I think we should send out some negative energy in that direction.   Mad
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« Reply #848 on: February 01, 2007, 03:51:17 PM »

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I have a copy of the PDF, 18 page response from Dr. Phil's attorneys to the Kalpoe suit that was filed 1/26/2007.  I'll do screen captures and post ASAP.


I've posted a copy of the DR. PHIL response to the KALPOE suit in this thread.  It was filed on 1/26/2007.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=808
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« Reply #849 on: February 01, 2007, 03:55:59 PM »

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Per MF at FOB regarding the death of Pitbull:

The man was a bouncer at C&C way before Natalee came to Aruba. He went to Venezuela where he tried to transport drugs in his stomach to Aruba, but when he arrived he felt sick because the packages in his stomach broke. He overdosed himseld and the case is not considered a murder case. His friends that were with him were all charged with destruction of an object (since by law, a body is considered an object) after they tried to get rid of the body by burning it.

Obvious that minimizing/ignoring crime is official policy on Aruba. It's like they don't want to know. This matches Dompig's summation of Natalee's case. It's the victims fault and J2K disposed of the body...well...for no reason at all!


Just getting in.  Glenda didn't get the early memo.  This is what she posted on April 6 on the darkside.

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:42 pm    

Glenda wrote:
sarge wrote:
That's interesting that he was a bouncer. I know that Glenda said that the man who killed him is a real hardened killer. Does that mean that the police already know who did it? This dead man is obviously a local.
With so many people in Aruba being related like Dompig and the witness I wonder if that is why there have been no tipsters collecting a reward for information about Natalee. They may be afraid to come forth. I have read that Nadira (K2's mom) is also related to Dompig. I don't know if it is confirmed how.
Surely someone had to see something that night after the 4 left C&C's.


This man was killed in a horrific manner ~ hardened criminal is my vocabulary for someone who could have done this. This was not an accident, a crime of passion or rage. Torture is a form of calculated punishment or revenge.
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« Reply #850 on: February 01, 2007, 04:18:20 PM »

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I have a copy of the PDF, 18 page response from Dr. Phil's attorneys to the Kalpoe suit that was filed 1/26/2007.  I'll do screen captures and post ASAP.


I've posted a copy of the DR. PHIL response to the KALPOE suit in this thread.  It was filed on 1/26/2007.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=808


Sounds like Dr. Phil's attorneys have nailed down the facts in a very precise and consise manner.  I particularly like their references to Caribbean news sources, not just US that had this info all over the place long before Dr. Phil's show.  I wonder if David Kock or anyone contacted the Dr. Phil show shortly after the broadcast to complain and if not, why.  Seems the Answer claims they didn't.  Answer also says that it's up to the Kalpoes to prove that Dr. Phil's representations are false.
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« Reply #851 on: February 01, 2007, 04:27:16 PM »

Thanks Buckeye!


It is so much fun witnessing the chaotic implosion.

She's spread so many lies, she can't keep them straight anymore  Laughing
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« Reply #852 on: February 01, 2007, 04:28:46 PM »

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Per MF at FOB regarding the death of Pitbull:

The man was a bouncer at C&C way before Natalee came to Aruba. He went to Venezuela where he tried to transport drugs in his stomach to Aruba, but when he arrived he felt sick because the packages in his stomach broke. He overdosed himseld and the case is not considered a murder case. His friends that were with him were all charged with destruction of an object (since by law, a body is considered an object) after they tried to get rid of the body by burning it.

Obvious that minimizing/ignoring crime is official policy on Aruba. It's like they don't want to know. This matches Dompig's summation of Natalee's case. It's the victims fault and J2K disposed of the body...well...for no reason at all!


Just getting in.  Glenda didn't get the early memo.  This is what she posted on April 6 on the darkside.

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:42 pm    

Glenda wrote:
sarge wrote:
That's interesting that he was a bouncer. I know that Glenda said that the man who killed him is a real hardened killer. Does that mean that the police already know who did it? This dead man is obviously a local.
With so many people in Aruba being related like Dompig and the witness I wonder if that is why there have been no tipsters collecting a reward for information about Natalee. They may be afraid to come forth. I have read that Nadira (K2's mom) is also related to Dompig. I don't know if it is confirmed how.
Surely someone had to see something that night after the 4 left C&C's.


This man was killed in a horrific manner ~ hardened criminal is my vocabulary for someone who could have done this. This was not an accident, a crime of passion or rage. Torture is a form of calculated punishment or revenge.

Hey Buckeye,
thank you for bringing this over.
I know we don't need the proof of this POS but I love when we get it!
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« Reply #853 on: February 01, 2007, 04:34:47 PM »

If CBS or NBC is putting on those two crazy psychics, can we possibly ask someone to put on the head tapper??  What's her name??  The one that the show Medium is based on??  Allison Dubois?? She seemed to nail "the vibes".  Where is Dutch Lady??
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« Reply #854 on: February 01, 2007, 04:42:54 PM »

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« Reply #855 on: February 01, 2007, 04:49:18 PM »

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« Reply #856 on: February 01, 2007, 04:56:45 PM »

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I have a copy of the PDF, 18 page response from Dr. Phil's attorneys to the Kalpoe suit that was filed 1/26/2007.  I'll do screen captures and post ASAP.


I've posted a copy of the DR. PHIL response to the KALPOE suit in this thread.  It was filed on 1/26/2007.

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=808


Sounds like Dr. Phil's attorneys have nailed down the facts in a very precise and consise manner.  I particularly like their references to Caribbean news sources, not just US that had this info all over the place long before Dr. Phil's show.  I wonder if David Kock or anyone contacted the Dr. Phil show shortly after the broadcast to complain and if not, why.  Seems the Answer claims they didn't.  Answer also says that it's up to the Kalpoes to prove that Dr. Phil's representations are false.


I agree. I particularly enjoyed the response regarding "permanently damaged them in their professions or occupations."   Hmmm..... Satish is a professional high school senior for the last 4 years.......Satish sounds very accomplished at his profession.  I guess the downside is that maybe he will finally graduate.......Deepak can't work b/c of visa issues......and I guess that is Natalee's & Dr. Phil's fault too!  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #857 on: February 01, 2007, 05:24:03 PM »

Response filing looks good. Well written.

A little light on addressing the actual validity of the tape, heavy on the Kalpoes character. Don't really know how to read that but it is obvious that if this goes to trial it will get ugly.

Great to see Dompigs big mouth (gut feeling, rape, murder...etc) and Nadira's position (we all lie) helping the defense. And Jossy printing those PVs in Diario was  Arrow  huge.
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« Reply #858 on: February 01, 2007, 05:35:47 PM »

FBI 302 of Lee Ashford Broughton - from BFN:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=810
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« Reply #859 on: February 01, 2007, 05:39:11 PM »

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FBI 302 of Lee Ashford Broughton - from BFN:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=810


From Andre Dos Santos 6/20/2005 witness statement:

On Sunday, May 29, 2005, around 16:30, I met Joran in the Excelsior casino of the Holiday Inn hotel. The moment I met Joran I was in the company of my father called "Montival SANTOS". Joran was in the company of father named “Paul” that is when my father and I met them in the “Excelsior Casino”. On that day we played in a "Texas Hold'm poker Tournament". Joran was first to be eliminated from the tournament. I no longer remember at what time Joran lost. I saw that Joran then played "black-Jack" and I continued play poker. After I was eliminated from the poker game I went over to Joran who was still sitting at the black-jack table. I no longer remember what time I left the poker table. When I stood beside Joran, I saw that there was a group of American students who were on holiday in Aruba talking. I saw that Joran helped one of the girls play black-jack. Joran told me that he was busy helping the girl with black-jack because according to Joran she had lost much money. After Joran helped the girl, Joran and I walked around in the Excelsior casino. I saw the group girls who were playing black-Jack with Joran walk by and I heard the girls say he should go to Carlos & Charlies later in the evening hours because they would like to meet him there. Joran answered for them not to worry, he would go

NOTE FROM ME:  Andre dos Santos is the fat and chinese or hawaiin looking friend of Joran's in Lee's 302.
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