Caylee Marie Anthony #164 6/25/10 - 7/14/10

[trimmonthelake]

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Haleigh Cummings - Caylee Anthony - Zachary Pittman Radio Wrap Up
Posted on June 28th, 2010

[akmom]

Okay, I know most monkeys are in bed, but there is something that RG brought up that is really bothering me.  How many different people did Casey try to involve with getting her gas???  I hate to even say things like this, but is there a way to asphyxiate someone with gasoline?  Duct tape on the gas can, duct tape on Caylee.....did Casey use gasoline and then try to implicate someone else by trying(and not succeeding) to get gas cans with fingerprints from anyone else near Caylee or the car???  Probably just crazy late night ramblings, but I have always been bothered by the gas cans and what they meant in the big picture

Casey tried to get Jesse, Amy, and Tony (Tony did help her get the gas cans from George's shed).....I'd have to go back and read documents to see if she called anyone else. I think Amy just bought her a new gas can, so I'm not sure she had any contact with George's precious gas cans....you know the one with duct tape over the vent hole that George DID NOT put that piece of duct tape on.....LOL
Casey tried to implicate others, but then leaves items from the Anthony house which points directly at her (or an Anthony family member) as the killer.
(laundry basket, winnie the pooh blanket, duct tape *Henkel brand* possibly same trash bags, pull-up diapers)

It almost looks like she had a plan to try and implicate someone else, and it just never did work out.  On the one hand you have George and his cans, on the other she had all these other people she was trying to get near the car with gas cans.....it has to add up to  something....either that or I am wrong, again...LOL.  If I remember right did we not just learn that there were NO PRINTS on the outside of the trunk?  Does not make sense, but I may be misremembering....again!

Yes, no prints on the outside of the trunk. If Casey was trying to plant the fingerprints of others on the trunk, she can thank her mom, car cleaner extraordinaire, for blowing that plan ! Just one more reason that Casey has turned her anger toward Cindy. Baez knows Casey's anger is seething slightly beneath the surface and cannot allow family visits for this reason. For once, he may have made a good decision .

You are right, (palm, forehead), of course Cin cin did an excellent job of wiping down the trunk.  I keep thinking that this seemingly average family could not be this evil......and the POW, it hits me again....they are horrible, evil, disgusting wastes' of oxygen....

[Rowanvamp0]

Reading some of the post of her followers makes me shake my head.  Some of those letter writers are one flake short of an avalanche.  That anyone would send pictures of themselves, and especially their children, or get their children involved in any way makes me wonder what in the world they were thinking. 

Write to a child who may have cancer or to a child or an adult who are in a third world country.  Donate to a worthy cause, there are many of them, not to someone's extras.  Casey is given three meals a day, donate the money to a child who may get three meals in a month. 

I can hardly stand it.

You know Bearly I agree with you whole heartedly on this one..Every time I'd see someone sending her money I would just fume up!!  I mean what does she REALLY need it for?  She had her initial check and purchased her clothing and while I do see a monthly need for feminine hygiene it certainly doesn't cost in excess of 25.00  I wondered if these people had money to do away with like that then they should send it to someone who really needs it!!  She gets food, shelter even a library of books all for free.  She doesn't need anything else to have a substantial life but others out there 25 dollars buys them food for family, heating/cooling for the elderly and doctor bills..on and on..I'm sorry but Bearly you really did hit it on the head of all I read this Ticked me off the most..thanks for saying it FIRST!

[Rowanvamp0]

Hi Monks.....just got back from a fantastic vacation in Sedona and the Grand Canyon...the mountains played havoc with internet and cell service....I will go back and try to get caught up, but if anyone would give me the condensed version of the past week's happenings I would greatly appreciate it! 

Glad you had a great time. We were given a bunch of letters. On page 95 of the last thread it is broken down what letters are from Cindy, and what letters are from George, and I saw one from Mallory, who is just as crazy as the rest of them. The bulk of all the other letters were basically crackpots who I'm sure were writing the letters from their rooms at the mental hospital.

Where o where was Mallory's letter I must have missed it or my eyes became burnt out from reading all these "Supporters" letters..could you direct me to the page please..Thanks

[darla]

Good Afternoon Monkeys and Guest!

I have enjoyed reading all of your post. So much insight. I have all kinds of thoughts running around in my head, but never seem to be able to put them down in a post. Thanks for doing some of it for me. I have been reading since Friday in the Discovery and still have not finished. But what I have read really puts alot in perspective. The Anthony house ( notice I didn't call it a home) must have been hell to live in. I am surprised Casey and Lee aren't any more insane than they are. Can you imagine the tension in that house. It just blows my mind how some families live. I grew up in a home full of love and for years I
didn't realize that not everyone did. I look back on my childhood and Thank God for the life I had. I had two loving parents who taught us right from wrong. We were hugged and told that we were loved everyday. I am almost 60 and I never hang up the phone with a loved one without telling them I love them.

I just don't understand how a mother could be so cruel as to always try to one up their kids. That is not a mother in my book. My heart breaks for what lil Caylee had to endure in her short little life. God Bless her!

[darla]

Reading some of the post of her followers makes me shake my head.  Some of those letter writers are one flake short of an avalanche.  That anyone would send pictures of themselves, and especially their children, or get their children involved in any way makes me wonder what in the world they were thinking. 

Write to a child who may have cancer or to a child or an adult who are in a third world country.  Donate to a worthy cause, there are many of them, not to someone's extras.  Casey is given three meals a day, donate the money to a child who may get three meals in a month. 

I can hardly stand it.

You know Bearly I agree with you whole heartedly on this one..Every time I'd see someone sending her money I would just fume up!!  I mean what does she REALLY need it for?  She had her initial check and purchased her clothing and while I do see a monthly need for feminine hygiene it certainly doesn't cost in excess of 25.00  I wondered if these people had money to do away with like that then they should send it to someone who really needs it!!  She gets food, shelter even a library of books all for free.  She doesn't need anything else to have a substantial life but others out there 25 dollars buys them food for family, heating/cooling for the elderly and doctor bills..on and on..I'm sorry but Bearly you really did hit it on the head of all I read this Ticked me off the most..thanks for saying it FIRST!

Amen Bearly, Amen. This is a website that I am a member of: www.asherandjacobsfriends.com. If any of the loons that wrote to Casey or sent her money would care to write some of the lil Angels on this site or send money so that their families can eat or help pay for meds.It makes my blood boil to read about all she spends on junk food. She spends more on junk than I do on groceries for a whole month. Just shameful.

[no rose colored glasses]

Hi Monks.....just got back from a fantastic vacation in Sedona and the Grand Canyon...the mountains played havoc with internet and cell service....I will go back and try to get caught up, but if anyone would give me the condensed version of the past week's happenings I would greatly appreciate it! 

Glad you had a great time. We were given a bunch of letters. On page 95 of the last thread it is broken down what letters are from Cindy, and what letters are from George, and I saw one from Mallory, who is just as crazy as the rest of them. The bulk of all the other letters were basically crackpots who I'm sure were writing the letters from their rooms at the mental hospital.

Where o where was Mallory's letter I must have missed it or my eyes became burnt out from reading all these "Supporters" letters..could you direct me to the page please..Thanks

I'm not sure now where exactly it was, but I'm pretty sure it was mixed in with either George or Cindy's letters. It was stupid just like their letters  LOL  And if not mistaken Mallory started out the letter with Hi beautiful or something like that.

[no rose colored glasses]

Hi Darla, I just had to give up with those letters, I couldn't stand the insanity anymore. But did get quite a kick out of reading George and Cindy's letters. Guess Lee is too busy playing with his turtle Zam and playing with his Star War toys to write Casey  LOL

[Rowanvamp0]

Hey, Scatty!  *waving*

You just reminded of something else.  Many monkeys pointed out Cindy's seeming need to touch Lee a lot during the Memorial service and during interviews.  Now, I'm wondering if that isn't a protective measure (or a cross between control and protection).  Reading up on Asperger's here and it seems to fit what we've seen of Lee (and I mean that completely without malice, slight, or ill intent of any kind): the awkward speech patterns/odd wording (the seemingly endless broken sentences in his depositions, the "doublespeak", most of Memorial speech-it was extremely difficult to follow and understand); the inappropriate emotional reactions (Lee's laughter in discussing the garage decomp smell, the courthouse high-five after alluding the media, the always loyal and deadpan "I have to believe my sister.", the infamous anguished CMA speech, the childish act of dumping out the protester's dog's water dish); the physical awkwardness when trying to destroy the protester's large sign; and the lack of emotional depth and expression between he and his parents (interviews, depositions, the memorial).  It would be interesting to know Lee's social-emotional-physical history.  Of course, Casey/Cindy may be trying to exploit that with the Mitigation Specialist too...with this crew, you never know.

Not saying this is the case, but if Asperberger's is involved, it could explain why there may have been some inappropriate physical sibling contact, as Asperger's patients lack the learned normal social and emotional boundaries.  If this is in fact the case, it would be cruel, as well as devastating to the patient to use a mistake against the patient (key word here- mistake).

Is Asperger's the reason the family initially circled the wagons, moved from Ohio (near family), and closed ranks?  Is that the real reason Casey rarely had anyone over?  Why Cindy rarely had family over? Did Lee ever have friends over?  People who have nothing to hide, hide nothing (nod to Rob in Natalie's thread).  To be continued...

For a video on Asperger there is one on you tube..actually many are on Youtube but I found a documentary of a young teen boy named Ruben who takes a camera and puts a spotlight on his day to day life..now as I watch this right now I don't think either Lee or Casey has asperger's but watch it and let me know your opinions as well. I don't know how to post video's here but here's the link for the page.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_PBVxGEEY4&feature=related

[trimmonthelake]

Hi Monks.....just got back from a fantastic vacation in Sedona and the Grand Canyon...the mountains played havoc with internet and cell service....I will go back and try to get caught up, but if anyone would give me the condensed version of the past week's happenings I would greatly appreciate it! 

Glad you had a great time. We were given a bunch of letters. On page 95 of the last thread it is broken down what letters are from Cindy, and what letters are from George, and I saw one from Mallory, who is just as crazy as the rest of them. The bulk of all the other letters were basically crackpots who I'm sure were writing the letters from their rooms at the mental hospital.

Where o where was Mallory's letter I must have missed it or my eyes became burnt out from reading all these "Supporters" letters..could you direct me to the page please..Thanks

Mallory's letter   
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/45069982/Mallorys-Letter-to-Casey

[Rowanvamp0]

Hi Monks.....just got back from a fantastic vacation in Sedona and the Grand Canyon...the mountains played havoc with internet and cell service....I will go back and try to get caught up, but if anyone would give me the condensed version of the past week's happenings I would greatly appreciate it! 

Glad you had a great time. We were given a bunch of letters. On page 95 of the last thread it is broken down what letters are from Cindy, and what letters are from George, and I saw one from Mallory, who is just as crazy as the rest of them. The bulk of all the other letters were basically crackpots who I'm sure were writing the letters from their rooms at the mental hospital.

Where o where was Mallory's letter I must have missed it or my eyes became burnt out from reading all these "Supporters" letters..could you direct me to the page please..Thanks

Mallory's letter   
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/45069982/Mallorys-Letter-to-Casey

Thanks so much I was just watching a video on Asperger's great insight if you want to watch it on youtube.  I posted a link for it..it was something that another monker brought up so I figured..humm let me see if there's a video so I can better understand and walla there is...would love to get your input Trimm

[Rowanvamp0]

Hi Monks.....just got back from a fantastic vacation in Sedona and the Grand Canyon...the mountains played havoc with internet and cell service....I will go back and try to get caught up, but if anyone would give me the condensed version of the past week's happenings I would greatly appreciate it! 

Glad you had a great time. We were given a bunch of letters. On page 95 of the last thread it is broken down what letters are from Cindy, and what letters are from George, and I saw one from Mallory, who is just as crazy as the rest of them. The bulk of all the other letters were basically crackpots who I'm sure were writing the letters from their rooms at the mental hospital.

Where o where was Mallory's letter I must have missed it or my eyes became burnt out from reading all these "Supporters" letters..could you direct me to the page please..Thanks

I'm not sure now where exactly it was, but I'm pretty sure it was mixed in with either George or Cindy's letters. It was stupid just like their letters  LOL  And if not mistaken Mallory started out the letter with Hi beautiful or something like that.

UGGGH I just got done reading it and I about threw up in my mouth when I read the words Hi Beautiful..what is it with this family..EVERYONE calls her that..was that playcading(Sp) to her..I don't know what to make of it except that it's just down right WEIRD!! 

[klaasend]

FYI - we are going to try putting back avatars and smileys hopefully some time today and see how the site does.  Also, the site will be down early morning Wednesday June 30th (we think) at around 2am ET for some updates to the forum software.  Hopefully it won't be down long.  This is NOT the new server upgrade.  I don't have a date on that yet.

[darla]

Thanks Klaas....Hope it works...I haven't been kicked out in the last few days.

[monkalicious]

Hey, Monkeys!  I've missed seeing you the last day and a half!  (My internet was down.  Talk about some Scared Withdrawal!)  I've had some time to think about the A's, God help me.  A couple of points...
About Lee.  I really do think he has Asperger's Syndrome which would explain a lot of things.  I have personal experience of what it's like to live with this disorder.  One of my twenty year old twin boys was diagnosed with this when he was eleven. He is very high functioning, (similar to Lee, I think,) but with all the annoying characteristics of this autistic spectrum disorder.  We always knew he was a little different, slower than his twin, developmentally delayed, physically clumsy.  Having a child the same age to compare milestones with was painful, yet was a helpful tool when it came down to working out a plan for his therapeutic treatment.  One of the pitfalls was that because he was so obviously disabled, we missed his twin's ADHD.  (I still feel so guilty--we thought he was okay, a little hyper, maybe, but compared to Max...anyone would be.  It finally worked out, though, and he's doing well.)  I don't believe that Lee had an allergic reaction to his acne medication...I think he finally was diagnosed, (my Max had some depression at adolescence, partially because he realized how "different" he was,) and has learned to cope.  Lee's inappropriate reactions, (his passionate CMA declaration at the memorial,) the childish "Star Wars" obsession, (mine still likes Disney movies,) his responsible job, (Max works and is never late, once he gets an idea in his head, it remains fixed and constant,) his facial expression, all seem to dovetail with this disorder.  My personal opinion is that the A's were embarrassed by him, and Casey, seemingly "normal", was deemed  "the golden child."  I think Cindy in particular pretended that nothing was wrong.  You never hear stories of George playing ball with him, or sharing any kind of faher/son experience.  I think neither parents spent little quality time with him.  I  really don't think that Casey was abused by either he or George, but I could be wrong.
On the George subject.  I have thought about his bizarre relationship with Casey.  (Hi, beautiful, gorgeous, etc.)  I think he is relatively clueless emotionally.  I get the impression that he thinks he should consider her his little princess, etc, but he just isn't felling it, so he overcompensates with the only language he knows.  The constant reference to hugs and smiles, while uncomfortable to read, could be how he THINKS a loving father would react.  (Obviously wrong, of course.) 
The A's respond so differently from most people that it is hard to get a read on them. Anytime I start to feel pity, I have to remember Caylee, the only innocent among them.  Their anger, paranoia, narcissism, lies, have all contributed to the death of that precious little girl.
Sorry for this being so long.

[trimmonthelake]

Hi Monks.....just got back from a fantastic vacation in Sedona and the Grand Canyon...the mountains played havoc with internet and cell service....I will go back and try to get caught up, but if anyone would give me the condensed version of the past week's happenings I would greatly appreciate it! 

Glad you had a great time. We were given a bunch of letters. On page 95 of the last thread it is broken down what letters are from Cindy, and what letters are from George, and I saw one from Mallory, who is just as crazy as the rest of them. The bulk of all the other letters were basically crackpots who I'm sure were writing the letters from their rooms at the mental hospital.

Where o where was Mallory's letter I must have missed it or my eyes became burnt out from reading all these "Supporters" letters..could you direct me to the page please..Thanks

Mallory's letter   
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/45069982/Mallorys-Letter-to-Casey

Thanks so much I was just watching a video on Asperger's great insight if you want to watch it on youtube.  I posted a link for it..it was something that another monker brought up so I figured..humm let me see if there's a video so I can better understand and walla there is...would love to get your input Trimm

Thanks.I am watching it now.
The thought has crossed my mind in relation to Lee.It is kind of hard to say as we are on the outside looking in through media snips.
Watching his deposition gave a little more insight,for me watching his expressions and getting to hear him talk without all the outside distractions.
I really enjoy reading when Bearly speaks about Autism.She is very knowledgeable and can break things down for you.The subject is quite interesting.

[Brandi]

FYI - we are going to try putting back avatars and smileys hopefully some time today and see how the site does.  Also, the site will be down early morning Wednesday June 30th (we think) at around 2am ET for some updates to the forum software.  Hopefully it won't be down long.  This is NOT the new server upgrade.  I don't have a date on that yet.

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20009050-504083.html
June 28, 2010 2:59 PM
Casey Anthony Letters Include Marriage Proposals, Support, Condemnation

[Rowanvamp0]

Hi Monks.....just got back from a fantastic vacation in Sedona and the Grand Canyon...the mountains played havoc with internet and cell service....I will go back and try to get caught up, but if anyone would give me the condensed version of the past week's happenings I would greatly appreciate it! 

Glad you had a great time. We were given a bunch of letters. On page 95 of the last thread it is broken down what letters are from Cindy, and what letters are from George, and I saw one from Mallory, who is just as crazy as the rest of them. The bulk of all the other letters were basically crackpots who I'm sure were writing the letters from their rooms at the mental hospital.

Where o where was Mallory's letter I must have missed it or my eyes became burnt out from reading all these "Supporters" letters..could you direct me to the page please..Thanks

Mallory's letter   
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/45069982/Mallorys-Letter-to-Casey

Thanks so much I was just watching a video on Asperger's great insight if you want to watch it on youtube.  I posted a link for it..it was something that another monker brought up so I figured..humm let me see if there's a video so I can better understand and walla there is...would love to get your input Trimm

Thanks.I am watching it now.
The thought has crossed my mind in relation to Lee.It is kind of hard to say as we are on the outside looking in through media snips.
Watching his deposition gave a little more insight,for me watching his expressions and getting to hear him talk without all the outside distractions.
I really enjoy reading when Bearly speaks about Autism.She is very knowledgeable and can break things down for you.The subject is quite interesting.

For me as well it's interesting.  I happen to find my favorite teacher on the Autism and Asperger syndrome is Temple Gardin. There's a Youtube video up of her as well being a Key Speaker..all I have to say is WOW how enlightening.  Here's the link to that as well...definitely worth a look at if your really interested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgEAhMEgGOQ&feature=related

[trimmonthelake]

Thanks Rowanvamp0!
I bookmarked the link.