Natalee Case Discussion #834 6/4/10 - 6/6/10

[Kermit]

viet vet
Submitted on 2006/12/06 at 8:11pm

Speaking of off the record comments, we were told were to find Joran at the International School on a Friday , June 2 or 3, have it in my notes. Was also told Joran hit Natalee with an aluminum baseball bat…in the head. The same man told me both stories and guess what, Joran was at the International School that day, hiding. He was sleeping over there rather than home,,, scared he was. The fine Aruba Police followed us to the school that day or maybe we would already have solved this case. Yeah Karin, a bounch of cowboys…

if the find the body they will see that shit.

Deepak needs to tell the truth today.  His time is quickly running out.  Those who covered this up can't afford for him to be out there with the knowledge he has.

I think it's too late for Kalpoe brothers. Judgement day is coming now.

[Tamikosmom]

Sorry Klaas.

Janet

[MisGivings]

enjoy your stay in the Peruvian prison!

OMG what's he doing & why is he holding it lol

I think it is more like, 'Dear Lord, please don't let the other prisoners see how tiny I am.' And, 'I guess I can kiss this goodbye, too'
the sock he stuffs down there fell?

ROFL!!!!

Sorry, was supposed to be inserted after the other quote;
I think it is more like, 'Dear Lord, please don't let the other prisoners see how tiny I am.' And, 'I guess I can kiss this goodbye, too'

[imnoangel]

Tonight there was a show on tv, Peter R. de Vries was quoted, he has been speaking to Beth.
Peter R. says Beth told him she did not pay Yoran squad.

[Kermit]

viet vet
Submitted on 2006/12/06 at 8:11pm

Speaking of off the record comments, we were told were to find Joran at the International School on a Friday , June 2 or 3, have it in my notes. Was also told Joran hit Natalee with an aluminum baseball bat…in the head. The same man told me both stories and guess what, Joran was at the International School that day, hiding. He was sleeping over there rather than home,,, scared he was. The fine Aruba Police followed us to the school that day or maybe we would already have solved this case. Yeah Karin, a bounch of cowboys…

if the find the body they will see that shit.

Yes Blah.  I still say she was murdered at the rock area near the Lighthouse.  Where they disposed of her body I'm not as certain of.

And it explains why they said that she fell out of the car and hit her head in order to cover up if Natalee's body was found. The injuries to her head from the baseball bat.

Kerm - and that wasn't the only time we heard of a head injury.  Remember his teacher (or headmaster?) talking about being on the beach, playing in the water, and she fell and hit her head on a rock?

Oh that's right. Great memory Jen.

[Red]

Hi all,
have not been here in a long time.
glad to see there are still some familiar names around.

Am so excited that they have arrested the b*stard!!
its all over the news here in the netherlands, as probably all over the world.

over here media says he will get 25 to 35 years in prison in Peru.

finally, justice!

and respect to all of you who hung in there for all these years...

Hi!  25-35 years in Peru then he can come to the US and serve another 50 for extortion.

Hey all,

Personally, with this idiots track record, he would never last 25 years in a Peruvian prison.

[crazybabyborg]

viet vet
Submitted on 2006/12/06 at 8:11pm

Speaking of off the record comments, we were told were to find Joran at the International School on a Friday , June 2 or 3, have it in my notes. Was also told Joran hit Natalee with an aluminum baseball bat…in the head. The same man told me both stories and guess what, Joran was at the International School that day, hiding. He was sleeping over there rather than home,,, scared he was. The fine Aruba Police followed us to the school that day or maybe we would already have solved this case. Yeah Karin, a bounch of cowboys…

I don't think it was a coincidence he chose a girl to murder on the 5th anniversary of him murdering Natalee, and I'm afraid the POS has recreated the crime further. As Jug said, Joran kept the element of Natalee hitting her head through most of his stories. Peru prison is too good for him!

[Ono]

on NG they just flashed that the murder weapon was  a baseball bat

Watching, no cell is good enough for this monster, he deserves a painful slow demise (God forgive me).

Remembering when we all speculated that he could have used a baseball bat on Natalee ...

[Lifesong]

I'm just shattered. 

I can't imagine how I could think that one form of murder is better than another, but overdose was at least something I could wrap my brain around.  This I simply cannot fathom.

[jen3560]

viet vet
Submitted on 2006/12/06 at 8:11pm

Speaking of off the record comments, we were told were to find Joran at the International School on a Friday , June 2 or 3, have it in my notes. Was also told Joran hit Natalee with an aluminum baseball bat…in the head. The same man told me both stories and guess what, Joran was at the International School that day, hiding. He was sleeping over there rather than home,,, scared he was. The fine Aruba Police followed us to the school that day or maybe we would already have solved this case. Yeah Karin, a bounch of cowboys…

if the find the body they will see that shit.

Yes Blah.  I still say she was murdered at the rock area near the Lighthouse.  Where they disposed of her body I'm not as certain of.

And it explains why they said that she fell out of the car and hit her head in order to cover up if Natalee's body was found. The injuries to her head from the baseball bat.

Kerm - and that wasn't the only time we heard of a head injury.  Remember his teacher (or headmaster?) talking about being on the beach, playing in the water, and she fell and hit her head on a rock?

Oh that's right. Great memory Jen.

And then of course there was his latest of her falling off a balcony and dying from a head injury.  That's been one common theme throughout everything we've learned these past 5 years.

Kerm, I really do think we just learned how Natalee died.  Where is that crying Monkey??  OMG

[da_wench]

Hello and long time no see sugar Monkeys!  Are we all celebrating some and mourning a bit too?  Does anyone else get the feeling that Natalie and Stephany aren't the only women that pscyho has murdered?

[seemeatthebeach]

On HLN a family member thought Stephany was kidnapped at first.

That was my understanding. It sounded like someone knew Stephany had gone to the casino. Her father contacted the casino and  was shown the video surveillance of Stephany leaving with Joran. The casino gave Mr. Flores a copy of Joran's passport and the family googled Joran. Someone from casino called the hotel Joran was staying in. Clerk went to room when Joran didn't answer the phone. Clerk said TV was on, but Joran didn't answer door. She went to her supervisor who told her to get copy of key and go into his room where she found Stephany's body.
Allegedly Joran told clerk when he was leaving with 2 suitcases that he would be back, and not allow anyone to enter his room including maids who clean the rooms.

[blah]

viet vet
Submitted on 2006/12/06 at 8:11pm

Speaking of off the record comments, we were told were to find Joran at the International School on a Friday , June 2 or 3, have it in my notes. Was also told Joran hit Natalee with an aluminum baseball bat…in the head. The same man told me both stories and guess what, Joran was at the International School that day, hiding. He was sleeping over there rather than home,,, scared he was. The fine Aruba Police followed us to the school that day or maybe we would already have solved this case. Yeah Karin, a bounch of cowboys…

if the find the body they will see that shit.

Yes Blah.  I still say she was murdered at the rock area near the Lighthouse.  Where they disposed of her body I'm not as certain of.

And it explains why they said that she fell out of the car and hit her head in order to cover up if Natalee's body was found. The injuries to her head from the baseball bat.

What a sick coward

[Ono]

viet vet
Submitted on 2006/12/06 at 8:11pm

Speaking of off the record comments, we were told were to find Joran at the International School on a Friday , June 2 or 3, have it in my notes. Was also told Joran hit Natalee with an aluminum baseball bat…in the head. The same man told me both stories and guess what, Joran was at the International School that day, hiding. He was sleeping over there rather than home,,, scared he was. The fine Aruba Police followed us to the school that day or maybe we would already have solved this case. Yeah Karin, a bounch of cowboys…

Oh, my word ...

[jen3560]

I'm just shattered. 

I can't imagine how I could think that one form of murder is better than another, but overdose was at least something I could wrap my brain around.  This I simply cannot fathom.

So am I Lifesong.  I mean, I've always believed he killed Natalee purposefully and violently, but my brain could just never 'go there' with specifics.  I hope that sonofab*tch gets everything he's got coming to him - and then some.

[Anna]

Somebody help me out here...

Wasn't it Joran's brother Val that we heard had said he'd bashed her head in with a baseball bat?

Yes, he said Joran cut her head off above the eyebrows.  Consistent with description of a head wound from something like a bat.

[crazybabyborg]

Hi all,
have not been here in a long time.
glad to see there are still some familiar names around.

Am so excited that they have arrested the b*stard!!
its all over the news here in the netherlands, as probably all over the world.

over here media says he will get 25 to 35 years in prison in Peru.

finally, justice!

and respect to all of you who hung in there for all these years...

Hi!  25-35 years in Peru then he can come to the US and serve another 50 for extortion.

Hey all,

Personally, with this idiots track record, he would never last 25 years in a Peruvian prison.

Hi Red! I sort of want him to last a long time. The descriptions I've read about Latin prisons seems particularly fitting, and I wish him a long, long time to think.

[Ono]

viet vet
Submitted on 2006/12/06 at 8:11pm

Speaking of off the record comments, we were told were to find Joran at the International School on a Friday , June 2 or 3, have it in my notes. Was also told Joran hit Natalee with an aluminum baseball bat…in the head. The same man told me both stories and guess what, Joran was at the International School that day, hiding. He was sleeping over there rather than home,,, scared he was. The fine Aruba Police followed us to the school that day or maybe we would already have solved this case. Yeah Karin, a bounch of cowboys…

if the find the body they will see that shit.

Exactly ...

[jen3560]

viet vet
Submitted on 2006/12/06 at 8:11pm

Speaking of off the record comments, we were told were to find Joran at the International School on a Friday , June 2 or 3, have it in my notes. Was also told Joran hit Natalee with an aluminum baseball bat…in the head. The same man told me both stories and guess what, Joran was at the International School that day, hiding. He was sleeping over there rather than home,,, scared he was. The fine Aruba Police followed us to the school that day or maybe we would already have solved this case. Yeah Karin, a bounch of cowboys…

Oh, my word ...

I sincerely hope the man who told them this comes forward with everything he knows.  I wish viet vet would tell us his name.  We could do a lot with that, in pressuring the truth to come out...

[jen3560]

Somebody help me out here...

Wasn't it Joran's brother Val that we heard had said he'd bashed her head in with a baseball bat?

Yes, he said Joran cut her head off above the eyebrows.  Consistent with description of a head wound from something like a bat.

And something about her being in their bathtub?