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« Reply #1400 on: June 06, 2010, 07:32:57 AM »

can, there are a lot of conflicting things right now. I swear that originally the Dutch said they wouldn't furnish an atty for Joran, and now they are. I'm sure that all of the facts will surface shortly and not change, but right now, I find it pretty frustrating!
Hi CBB.  - so nice to see you back, posting often, and providing some smiles along the way.
Re the atty:- I think there may be a distinction and confusion between folks from the consulate that visit Joran to provide health checks and toiletries and a small amount of money (to be repaid ha!) and the country per se.
Not sure though - all so confusing.

One thing though, that isn't confusing.  Joran is going DOWN!!!
 
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« Reply #1401 on: June 06, 2010, 07:35:56 AM »

Since Paulus was a lawyer, I presume he had a killer Will, no pun intended.  Wouldn't Anita have his life insurance money now, and perhaps the kids have money from the Will also?
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« Reply #1402 on: June 06, 2010, 07:39:49 AM »

Joran contacted his lawyer in Holland TWICE!
Once while he was on the run and the second time when he was detained in Chile!!

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Helmond lawyer: Joran confesses not
Friday, June 4, 2010 | 24:32 | Last updated: Friday, June 4, 2010 | 9:11 p.m.

Helmond - Joran van der Sloot has "certainly not aware" that his 21-year-old Stephany Flores killed in Peru.
"On the contrary," said his lawyer Bert de Rooij Helmond.

The counsel has an e-mail a few times had contact with Van der Sloot.
"Once when he was at liberty to my surprise and later from the police in Chile where he was stuck."

What does Van der Sloot had informed about his involvement in the case will not say De Rooij.
"This is not in the interest of Joran."

Van der Sloot in the night on Thursday as his mother called.
"She is shocked and worried. It is not nothing what she gets on her plate," says De Rooij, a former classmate who is the father of Van der Sloot.

Helmond The lawyer is currently looking for lawyers in Chile and Peru that Van der Sloot can assist.
Van der Sloot has been visited by a representative of the Dutch Embassy in Chile, said De Rooij.

http://www.ed.nl/regio/helmondstad/6785388/Helmondse-advocaat-Joran-bekent-niet.ece
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« Reply #1403 on: June 06, 2010, 07:40:29 AM »

How did Joran Vandersloot afford to travel to all of these places?!  Where did all of his money come from all of these years?  http://www.waarisjoran.nl/spots           
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« Reply #1404 on: June 06, 2010, 07:41:45 AM »

Since Paulus was a lawyer, I presume he had a killer Will, no pun intended.  Wouldn't Anita have his life insurance money now, and perhaps the kids have money from the Will also?

Don't know how long it takes a will to be probated in Aruba Sharon.  Even if the will has not been probated but presuming he left funds and/or had life insurance, Anita could probably borrow on that. There's also her house that could be mortgaged and well off relatives to tap into.
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« Reply #1405 on: June 06, 2010, 07:44:14 AM »

Joran contacted his lawyer in Holland TWICE!
Once while he was on the run and the second time when he was detained in Chile!!

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Helmond lawyer: Joran confesses not
Friday, June 4, 2010 | 24:32 | Last updated: Friday, June 4, 2010 | 9:11 p.m.

Helmond - Joran van der Sloot has "certainly not aware" that his 21-year-old Stephany Flores killed in Peru.
"On the contrary," said his lawyer Bert de Rooij Helmond.

The counsel has an e-mail a few times had contact with Van der Sloot.
"Once when he was at liberty to my surprise and later from the police in Chile where he was stuck."

What does Van der Sloot had informed about his involvement in the case will not say De Rooij.
"This is not in the interest of Joran."

Van der Sloot in the night on Thursday as his mother called.
"She is shocked and worried. It is not nothing what she gets on her plate," says De Rooij, a former classmate who is the father of Van der Sloot.

Helmond The lawyer is currently looking for lawyers in Chile and Peru that Van der Sloot can assist.
Van der Sloot has been visited by a representative of the Dutch Embassy in Chile, said De Rooij.

http://www.ed.nl/regio/helmondstad/6785388/Helmondse-advocaat-Joran-bekent-niet.ece

Wow, I'd like to see the time stamp on that email contact "while he was at liberty" - probably chain smoking in a taxi on his laptop?!
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« Reply #1406 on: June 06, 2010, 07:44:30 AM »

How did Joran Vandersloot afford to travel to all of these places?!  Where did all of his money come from all of these years?  http://www.waarisjoran.nl/spots           

wish I had a nickel for all the times we've asked this question. 
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« Reply #1407 on: June 06, 2010, 07:45:13 AM »

Since Paulus was a lawyer, I presume he had a killer Will, no pun intended.  Wouldn't Anita have his life insurance money now, and perhaps the kids have money from the Will also?

Don't know how long it takes a will to be probated in Aruba Sharon.  Even if the will has not been probated but presuming he left funds and/or had life insurance, Anita could probably borrow on that. There's also her house that could be mortgaged and well off relatives to tap into.
  Thanks Can.  Follow the money trail is all I can say!
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« Reply #1408 on: June 06, 2010, 07:47:53 AM »

How did Joran Vandersloot afford to travel to all of these places?!  Where did all of his money come from all of these years?  http://www.waarisjoran.nl/spots           

wish I had a nickel for all the times we've asked this question. 
  It angers me to tears. 
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« Reply #1409 on: June 06, 2010, 07:49:02 AM »

Blunders of hunt for Natalee Holloway

Probe of teen's disappearance was derailed by desperate kin's clash with a lax Aruban system

By MAUREEN CALLAHAN
Last Updated: 7:30 AM, June 6, 2010
Posted: 2:45 AM, June 6, 2010


It was 11 a.m. on the morning of May 30, 2005, when Natalee Holloway failed to show up in the lobby of the Holiday Inn on Aruba, where she'd been on a class trip with 123 of her fellow high-school seniors from Birmingham, Ala.

Her mother, Beth Twitty, got a call from one of the chaperones a few minutes after 11. She called her husband -- Natalee's stepfather, Jug -- her son Matt, then 16, and the FBI. By 10 that night, she and Jug had landed in Aruba, and began searching for Natalee.

They quickly zeroed in on a well-to-do 17-year-old named Joran van der Sloot. Some of Natalee's classmates told Beth they had last seen her with van der Sloot at a bar.

Beth became convinced that van der Sloot murdered her daughter, whose body has never been found. Beth has since kept up her public campaign against him -- and the Aruban authorities she feels botched the investigation.

Now, with van der Sloot's arrest last week in a 21-year-old Peruvian woman's murder, the question Beth Twitty has been asking for five years is being asked by another family: How could this have happened?

VAN der Sloot was never charged in Natalee's disappearance. Even more incredibly, after his arrest in Chile on Thursday, US authorities announced they were charging van der Sloot with extortion and fraud. He had allegedly told Beth that he would reveal the location of Natalee's body in exchange for $250,000.

The answer lies in Aruba's attitude toward missing persons and assaults on foreign women and its approach to criminal law. And a family that, in its grief, unwittingly hurt an investigation and alienated a nation.

"If anyone reported that they'd been assaulted, it was a long, drawn-out process," ex-FBI profiler Clinton van Zandt told The Post.

A victimized tourist would "have to fly back and forth to Aruba several times -- it was, like, 'You should consider yourself lucky [to be alive] and get yourself home on the next boat or plane.' "

Van der Sloot, he added, was well-known among authorities for "hanging out in bars and casinos, targeting foreigners for sex, stalking young women. It was almost a laughing matter to police."

The same night that Beth and Jug Twitty arrived in Aruba, they went with the cops to van der Sloot's house. Eventually, cops interrogated van der Sloot in his driveway as the Twittys and his father, an Aruban attorney named Paulus, looked on.

This was one of the first mistakes investigators made -- allowing a suspect to be interrogated in the presence of a victim's family.

"That's completely off the wall," said former NYPD Detective Vernon Geberth, author of "The Practical Homicide Investigation," known to cops as the bible of murder-investigation techniques.

It would be very rare to have outside people present at an interrogation, and under no circumstances should relatives of the victim be involved, Geberth said.

Julia Renfro, the editor in chief of the Aruba Daily who became close to Beth during the search for Natalee, said Beth had told her of the interrogation.

"Beth herself said to me that Joran was talking, that everything was going smoothly," Renfro recalled.

But while van der Sloot was giving the cops his version of events -- at first insisting he didn't know who Natalee was, then admitting he had met her at a nightclub -- Jug suddenly laced into van der Sloot, shutting him up.

Beth, Renfro said, knew van der Sloot was lying, but she felt the cops were getting somewhere, that maybe they could get even more from him.

But, Renfro told The Post, "Jug got really loud and rowdy, cursing."

Van der Sloot's father ended the interrogation and was later reported to have advised his son, "No body, no case."

NATALEE'S mother and stepfather were also horrified to learn that Aruban authorities had a 48-hour waiting period before declaring a person missing.

Beth began going on American TV the first day she was there and kept at it nightly. She complained about the slow pace of the investigation and the laissez faire attitude displayed by authorities.

Van der Sloot, along with Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, two brothers who had been with him the night Natalee disappeared, were arrested two days later.

Under Aruban law, suspects can be jailed for up to 146 days without any evidence or even any charges. Van der Sloot spent the maximum time allowed in prison, but investigators turned up nothing incriminating.

"Nothing pointed to him," Joe Tacopina, a New York attorney who represented van der Sloot, told The Post. "They turned over every grain of sand looking for her. They dug the earth under his house. They came in with a bulldozer and ripped apart the family pool."

Meanwhile, Beth had been on American television daily, giving updates on the search for Natalee and venting her frustration with Aruban authorities.

"The nightly rants on TV were hard," Renfro said, "but people accepted it."

Upon van der Sloot's release, Aruban authorities continued to watch him and the Kalpoes, tapping their cellphones and computers. They found nothing.

Beth, said Renfro, ramped up her public attacks on Aruban authorities.

"In the beginning, she wanted to make the world aware that Natalee was missing -- there were 30 to 40 thousand tourists on that island," Renfro said. "Then it started to be, 'Aruba's corrupt; Aruba's incompetent.' "

Beth hired a private investigator, the Georgia-based T.J. Ward, to conduct his own search. Renfro said he was the one who poisoned Beth against the Arubans.

"A lot of his information was incorrect," Renfro said. "He'd go back and say, 'The father's a big judge with a lot of money,' but he wasn't anything special. It was very upsetting."

Beth, Ward and Renfro "jumped on" every tip that came in and couldn't understand why police weren't doing the same.

In hindsight, Renfro said, the cops were right not to follow what were clearly dozens of false leads. But Beth's frustration and panic was exacerbated, Renfro said, by the way Aruban authorities deal with victims' family members. In short: They don't.

"The Dutch system is not transparent at all," Renfro said. "It's not corrupt; it's just different, and that can be very frustrating. The relatives have to sit and wait."

In November 2005, Beth scheduled a press conference in Aruba, her biggest yet. She invited members of the foreign press but kept out local journalists, and called for a boycott of Aruba, which was later endorsed by TV host "Dr. Phil" McGraw.

That, said Renfro, was the moment Beth and her family lost the sympathies of Arubans.

"She told the world that Aruba allows criminals to walk on the beach with tourists, and to close their borders to the subjects who harmed her daughter," Renfro said.

"It was quite harmful, not just financially, but emotionally. Tourism is the main source of income for the island, and these were the people who spent days and nights searching and praying for Natalee. She really tarnished the image of the people. That's when Arubans turned on her."

The authorities, how ever, persisted in their attempt to prove van der Sloot's guilt.

In Aruba, prosecutors must present new evidence in order to re-arrest a suspect. They didn't have it, but in 2007 they told a three-judge tribunal they were going to present old evidence that had been examined using new technology. It was widely viewed as a flimsy premise, but the court granted the motion.

Prosecutors also made one last attempt at eliciting a confession: Authorities arrested all three boys on the same day and at the same time in three different countries.

Continued surveillance had shown that the brothers hadn't spoken to van der Sloot in a year and a half and that they hadn't discussed Holloway.

With no DNA evidence, no body and no crime scene, prosecutors thought their best chance was in pitting each boy against the others and flipping someone.

"Nobody broke," Renfro said. "They all told the same story."

The three suspects all admitted to having met Holloway at a casino two days prior to her disappearance.

Van der Sloot and the Kalpoes told police that on the night she vanished, they ran into her at a popular restaurant and from there took her to the beach.

She and van der Sloot were kissing in the back of the car. The three young men initially said they dropped Holloway at her hotel about 2 a.m.

Later, van der Sloot changed his story, saying he and Holloway were dropped off at a beach and walked together for a while. He claimed he left her there alone because she wasn't ready to leave when he was.

After his 2007 arrest, van der Sloot spent seven days in jail.

According to Tacopina, van der Sloot's former attorney, "The judges said, 'This is over. There's never going to be any credible evidence.' "

Although van der Sloot was caught on tape in 2008 telling an undercover journalist that a friend of his dumped Natalee's body after she had convulsed and died, his statements were ruled inadmissible.

NOT only was van der Sloot openly smoking pot on the tape, he never incriminated himself in her death or disappearance. He'd also gone to the cops voluntarily and said that the journalist had paid him in exchange for the conversation and that everything he had said was a lie.

Last week, FBI officials in Alabama charged van der Sloot with trying to extort $250,000 from an unnamed person.

"He extorted, or attempted to extort someone, an individual, in exchange for the location of Natalee Holloway's remains and information about her death," said Peggy Sanford, spokeswoman for the US Attorney's Office in Birmingham, where Holloway's mother lives.

According to the federal complaint, van der Sloot, 22, had been wired $15,000 on May 10. The money had been sent to a Netherlands bank.

Officials say any information he gave was bogus.

Additional reporting by Ginger Adams Otis and Philip Messing

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« Reply #1410 on: June 06, 2010, 07:53:27 AM »

Thank God we, and anyone in the world, can read about what the Holloways have gone through over the past 5 years right here.  Every document, news bit, etc. is right here under several links.  I hope the world and everyone in Peru reads what Joran Vandersloot put this family through.  The Kalpoe's still have not faced Dr. Phil in Court.  I am very thankful to be able to read and stay caught up here!  Monkeyhugs! (\ (*.*) /)  Justice for Natalee.  Have a great Sunday!
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« Reply #1411 on: June 06, 2010, 07:55:33 AM »

I've seen a ton of conflicting reports...these stand out >

(bleeding from the nose?? How could he tell if she was "unrecognizable" and she was face down as the other report claims)

Receptionist tells how he found the body of Stephany Flores
'The young lady was lying on the floor and knees bent back toward the wall and bleeding from the nose,' said Adely Abad, Tac hotel worker.

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2010-06-03-recepcionista-cuenta-como-encontro-el-cadaver-de-stephany-flores-noticia_269820.html

compare to the ones that state she was lying on the floor at the foot of the bed in the prone position.

My head spins when I try and take in all the reports and all the conflicts in the stories reported...it is painful...lol.

We are in for a lot more of this, partly due to 'translations' of language, perhaps?  Deja Vu  --- eh??  come across......
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« Reply #1412 on: June 06, 2010, 07:57:47 AM »

Joran contacted his lawyer in Holland TWICE!
Once while he was on the run and the second time when he was detained in Chile!!

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Helmond lawyer: Joran confesses not
Friday, June 4, 2010 | 24:32 | Last updated: Friday, June 4, 2010 | 9:11 p.m.

Helmond - Joran van der Sloot has "certainly not aware" that his 21-year-old Stephany Flores killed in Peru.
"On the contrary," said his lawyer Bert de Rooij Helmond.

The counsel has an e-mail a few times had contact with Van der Sloot.
"Once when he was at liberty to my surprise and later from the police in Chile where he was stuck."

What does Van der Sloot had informed about his involvement in the case will not say De Rooij.
"This is not in the interest of Joran."

Van der Sloot in the night on Thursday as his mother called.
"She is shocked and worried. It is not nothing what she gets on her plate," says De Rooij, a former classmate who is the father of Van der Sloot.

Helmond The lawyer is currently looking for lawyers in Chile and Peru that Van der Sloot can assist.
Van der Sloot has been visited by a representative of the Dutch Embassy in Chile, said De Rooij.

http://www.ed.nl/regio/helmondstad/6785388/Helmondse-advocaat-Joran-bekent-niet.ece

Thanks for the reminder Jo-An. 
How interesting that Joran claims he just saw Stefany in the casino and has no other memory. 
He had enough presence of mind to contact his lawyer while @ liberty!
His lies cannot assist him this time - and I'm sure he has already reached that conclusion. 
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« Reply #1413 on: June 06, 2010, 07:59:03 AM »

How did Joran Vandersloot afford to travel to all of these places?!  Where did all of his money come from all of these years?  http://www.waarisjoran.nl/spots           

wish I had a nickel for all the times we've asked this question. 
  It angers me to tears. 

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« Reply #1414 on: June 06, 2010, 07:59:52 AM »

Since Paulus was a lawyer, I presume he had a killer Will, no pun intended.  Wouldn't Anita have his life insurance money now, and perhaps the kids have money from the Will also?

I would imagine that everything Paulus had went to Anita as well as his life insurance, if any existed.

The boys were essentially minors unless he had a brand new will and Anita will have the two younger
ones to raise.

Paulus had recently left Antionio's Carlos' law firm when he died.  We heard that it was due to money
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« Reply #1415 on: June 06, 2010, 08:00:49 AM »

http://www.expreso.com.pe/edicion/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=103376&Itemid=35

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According to journalist Ivar Penris Netherlands, the mother of the murderer does not travel to our country because it lacks sufficient funds for transportation.

I find it very hard to believe that Anita wouldn't be traveling to Peru to see Joran because she can't afford to.

If she said that, that's not the only reason she's not going.

Where there's a WILL, there's a way. 

I'm sure all her nitwit friends would contribute to the cause if she really WANTED to go.


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I think I can hear the rustling of a new thread at RU -- maybe Glenda can be the 'go to' person.

Thanks TM and all the Monkeys for keeping on keeping on -- we are most certainly one day closer to justice for Natalee and Stephany. South American style Smile))))))


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« Reply #1416 on: June 06, 2010, 08:08:09 AM »

Didn't  Anita have a fight with Urine over money after daddy died. I think I
read that on here a few weeks ago. What I want to know is where he stashed his lap-top. There could be a mountain of evidence on that. I don't
believe for a second that he doesn't remember where he stayed, when the
police ask him where it was. He wouldn't post it to mom, how about Grandma
or the two people that the FBI just searched their places. Or if he rented a
place that his mom could go and pick it up. Maybe this is why he wants to
see mom. I know I would want to see whats on it and the FBI also.
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« Reply #1417 on: June 06, 2010, 08:10:47 AM »

Joran is facing at least a couple years in a Peruvian prison before his case even goes to trial.  Anita is his only hope of obtaining legal representation and basic living necessities for the next couple years.  She needs to bring him money.  Without money, he's facing a living hell and may not survive it.

Where is the legal representation the DUTCH said they would pay for, for him??

Nut,  I read they said they would NOT be paying for a lawyer for him.  They would offer assistance if he need help on something like health issues only.  (that is what the consulate said)

Ohhhh okay, thanks. I hadn't read that. I only saw the first report that they would give him representation.

OK.........here is where yesterday I mention the Dutch representation...

(carpe posted) ...but I saw this report a few days ago....so THIS was the FIRST report.

The Dutch Consulate is now involved in the case and has volunteered a defense attorney for van der Sloot, according to Carlos Neyra, a spokesman for the Peruvian Investigative Police.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/05/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T2

Then the report comes out that AZSunny read where  NOT be paying for a lawyer for him.  They would offer assistance if he need help on something like health issues only.  (that is what the consulate said) ...so which report came first? I feel like puking, I am so confused.
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« Reply #1418 on: June 06, 2010, 08:15:40 AM »

Netherlands and sleep in dungeons Dirincri
Broadcast video from your hotel entrance next to victim.
Amid heavy security arrived in Lima the alleged murderer of Stephany Flores Ramirez (21), victimized early on Sunday May 30 at a hotel in Miraflores. The citizen Joran Van Der Sloot Netherlands (23), arrived from Chile by land aboard the Interpol unit of Peru, guarded by the National Police and agents of the Homicide Division of Criminal Investigation Department (Dirincri). The arrival of the suspect number one crime to the police headquarters was about ten o'clock in the morning, where a contingent of journalism, both nationally and abroad, gathered at the avenue Spain to learn about the details of the Research into the death of the daughter of Peruvian entrepreneur Ricardo Flores.


Bumpy ride
Followed by a convoy of 12 police vehicles, the alleged killer road traveled on a journey of more than 24 hours to Lima. But it was at kilometer 35 of the American South, where Van der Sloot, for a further change of vehicle, angry residents shouted "murderer" for justice, even a man hit him with a briefcase. Once in the capital, the Dutchman declined to give statements to the media, as well as during his presentation at a press conference, headed by Interior Minister Octavio Salazar, the director of the National Police, General Miguel Hidalgo, and Dirincri chief Gen. Cesar Guardia.

Research continues
Van der Sloot was presented to three times the press. At all times he was seen enmarrocado and wearing a bulletproof vest over his black shirt. She wore a beige trousers and white sneakers, wearing costumes during his capture in Chile. The head of the Interior said that the investigation of the case is in charge of the Dirincri, and meanwhile completed, the alien with a criminal record will remain confined in the lockup of the police headquarters.
The evidence incriminating Van der Sloot contains testimony of an employee of the hotel, a guest, and the well-known Panamanian singer Roberto Blades, who warned security staff of the Atlantic City casino on the presence of the possible murderer. Also, in a video shown they are seen entering both near 05:15 pm and then he left the place at 9:30 am to address Stephany van, carrying a briefcase and a backpack. In this period would have killed the young university.

Extension request
Troops of the Homicide Division Dirincri, the prosecutor asked Ninfa Espinoza Soto, the extension of three days to continue the search.
Due to this procedure, the alleged murderer, was taken to the headquarters of the Legal Medicine Institute of the Public Ministry to pass the respective tests on the present state of health. For information reached this newspaper, Van Der Sloots time will remain for a further extension in Dirincri headquarters where he will be questioned for this crime.

According to journalist Ivar Penris Netherlands, the mother of the murderer does not travel to our country because it lacks sufficient funds for transportation.

http://www.expreso.com.pe/edicion/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=103376&Itemid=35

"According to journalist Ivar Penris Netherlands, the mother of the murderer does not travel to our country because it lacks sufficient funds for transportation."
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« Reply #1419 on: June 06, 2010, 08:19:54 AM »

One thing that does bother me about this investigation is why on earth would they have to exhume Stephany to take evidence from under her fingernails?  

I'm basing this on statements that were supposedly made by her father in articles I've read, who also stated that this is why they were not allowed to cremate her.

Why wasn't that done during the autopsy?  I just don't understand that.

Mark Furhman (I know...ackkk) said after talking iirc to the Medical Examiner's office that it was routine to take those samples...if that's so I don't understand WHY they didn't do it?

It just seems like that would be a very important piece of evidence that should be collected and analyzed right away.

Her hands should have been bagged and tied w/ rubber bands at the wrists AT THE SCENE...before transport.
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