Natalee Case Discussion #834 6/4/10 - 6/6/10

[Rob]

Alfredo Zizold Stiglich  Did you all guys know that at this moment Joran´s mother and a lawyer from Holland are flying down to Peru to look for a local criminal attorney in Lima that could take Joran´s defense?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stephany-Flores-Ramirez-and-Joran-Van-der-Sloot-Case/122041101165784?ref=ts&v=wall

IF that's true, my guess would be that the lawyer is Bert de Rooij.  He and Paulus were schoolmates at Tilburg so they go wayyyyyy back.  He was mentioned as the "family lawyer" in some articles.  From my understanding he is a criminal lawyer.  

or Spong...Guido's attorney.

[Port Valerie]

the reports of Joran having bloody clothes with him could be something as simple as his shoes with blood splatter. Guess we'll have to wait and see. I am loving Peru and how they are sharing all this info and videos. They aren't burying everything in a crabtrap

Yes, and they don't have a lot of hottie spokeswomen who turn out to be cousins of half the people involved in the case.

[Ono]

The comparisions, in my mind with anita and sin-cin, is chillling

Oh, Sunny ... I've been thinking the exact same thing.

[MisGivings]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug029-uxa1E&feature=player_embedded#

Read comments on time

this one will really pizz you off...

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ExtractCarrot
11 hours ago

What a coincidence that this innocent girl was killed on the same day as the launch of Beth Holloway's website with a big PLEASE DONATE billboard on her homepage!! Beth has stolen over 50$ millions off the back of Natalee! And now she still need more attention and money? it wouldn't surprise me that BETH HOLLOWAY is the one who has arranged for Stephany to be killed behind Joran's back!! Someone seriously needs to investigate the Holloway family, they are the true cruel criminal exploiters

They are all idiots. simply. These are the same doofuses that don't know that Renho is Glenda, so how in the hell can they figure out even the basic of crimes?
Fortunately, this very small group of rejects won't be enough to save Aruba from the imminent downfall they are about to experience.

[Jo-An]

Don't know if this video was already posted or not. Joran at police station, handing over his money, creditcards, pictures etc. His hair looks really blond there!

http://elcomercio.pe/player/490579

thanks Jo, this is the first time I have seen this.  So, some of the information we have heard is entirely false.....he had his backpack and his computer.......sure didn't see any indication of bloody clothing.  So did he in fact turn himself in as someone said earlier?

NOOOOO, Sunny don't get confused.

He was detained in Chile because the Taxi driver recognized him.  When detained, on the way back they asked him where his stuff was, he said it was at a hotel but he couldn't remember where.  When he was on the run he stayed one night in an unknown hotel.

IMO, they found his stuff at the hotel and that is what we are seeing.   We are seeing Joran identify that it's his stuff, count the money etc before they put it into police evidence.

Dutch media report that Joran said during the hearings yesterday that he turned himself in.
Not that anyone will believe him of course, but that's what he told the police in Peru.

[Port Valerie]

I'm thinking of the beautiful but inept first Aruban spokeswoman -- Marianne Croes, was it? And who will ever forget what-was-her-name Arlene. Peru looks more like the Netherlands, cold and gray. No gorgeous beach shots expected.

[msmarple]

Thanks AZSunny...


http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/14540
Miguel Castro Castro Prison

Looks like such a lovely place!  LOL

Lol-I'm sort of enjoying the reading word "dungeon."

Me too. And "alien."

He is a "stranger in a strange land." (albiet not as loveable as Heinlein's stranger. No groks for you, Joran.)

[Ono]

pannekoeken for Ono - (since you asked what they were)

Oh-pancakes!!-LOL-Thank you Rob! 

[Blonde]

Thanks AZSunny...


http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/14540
Miguel Castro Castro Prison

Looks like such a lovely place!  LOL

Lol-I'm sort of enjoying the reading word "dungeon."

I know me too hahahaha

[Anna]

Don't know if this video was already posted or not. Joran at police station, handing over his money, creditcards, pictures etc. His hair looks really blond there!

http://elcomercio.pe/player/490579

Thanks Jo-An

So it looks like all the stuff Joran had left behind in the hotel room he claimed he couldn't remember, the one in Chile was found.  GOOD. 

They have his laptop too!

Klaas or anybody, is this verified?  If so, game so totally over and he is toast!

[AZSunny]

Don't know if this video was already posted or not. Joran at police station, handing over his money, creditcards, pictures etc. His hair looks really blond there!

http://elcomercio.pe/player/490579

SWEET!!! They got his laptop.
Joran, you are a dead man.

and he had his 'suitcases' with him!! 

I believe we'll find he left his STUFF behind in the first hotel he stayed in when he was "on the lamb"

Gothca, thanks.

[MisGivings]

Don't know if this video was already posted or not. Joran at police station, handing over his money, creditcards, pictures etc. His hair looks really blond there!

http://elcomercio.pe/player/490579

thanks Jo, this is the first time I have seen this.  So, some of the information we have heard is entirely false.....he had his backpack and his computer.......sure didn't see any indication of bloody clothing.  So did he in fact turn himself in as someone said earlier?

NOOOOO, Sunny don't get confused.

He was detained in Chile because the Taxi driver recognized him.  When detained, on the way back they asked him where his stuff was, he said it was at a hotel but he couldn't remember where.  When he was on the run he stayed one night in an unknown hotel.

IMO, they found his stuff at the hotel and that is what we are seeing.   We are seeing Joran identify that it's his stuff, count the money etc before they put it into police evidence.

Dutch media report that Joran said during the hearings yesterday that he turned himself in.
Not that anyone will believe him of course, but that's what he told the police in Peru.

I would like to see him stick his fingers in his ears during interrogations like he did in Aruba. Everyone knows how he was arrested, yet he says he turned himself in. He is a fool if he thinks his many lies are going to save his sorry a$$. May God have mercy on the lawyer his Mommy finds for him.

[Anna]

Yesterday the Dutch were only going to provide Joran with healthcare and maybe 30 euros a month.  Today, it's an attorney?

Which is it?  Any of our Dutch posters able to nail this down?

Also, I don't even like the healthcare part.  They will try to say he is mentally ill and should be extradited so they can get him into posh surroundings!  I hope Peru will NOT allow even healthcare.

The other prisoners will take his euros so not worried about that.

[AZSunny]

Don't know if this video was already posted or not. Joran at police station, handing over his money, creditcards, pictures etc. His hair looks really blond there!

http://elcomercio.pe/player/490579

thanks Jo, this is the first time I have seen this.  So, some of the information we have heard is entirely false.....he had his backpack and his computer.......sure didn't see any indication of bloody clothing.  So did he in fact turn himself in as someone said earlier?

NOOOOO, Sunny don't get confused.

He was detained in Chile because the Taxi driver recognized him.  When detained, on the way back they asked him where his stuff was, he said it was at a hotel but he couldn't remember where.  When he was on the run he stayed one night in an unknown hotel.

IMO, they found his stuff at the hotel and that is what we are seeing.   We are seeing Joran identify that it's his stuff, count the money etc before they put it into police evidence.

Dutch media report that Joran said during the hearings yesterday that he turned himself in.
Not that anyone will believe him of course, but that's what he told the police in Peru.

I would like to see him stick his fingers in his ears during interrogations like he did in Aruba. Everyone knows how he was arrested, yet he says he turned himself in. He is a fool if he thinks his many lies are going to save his sorry a$$. May God have mercy on the lawyer his Mommy finds for him.

His lies are starting already....disgusting piece of trash.

[AZSunny]

Don't know if this video was already posted or not. Joran at police station, handing over his money, creditcards, pictures etc. His hair looks really blond there!

http://elcomercio.pe/player/490579

SWEET!!! They got his laptop.
Joran, you are a dead man.

and he had his 'suitcases' with him!! 

I believe we'll find he left his STUFF behind in the first hotel he stayed in when he was "on the lamb"

Gothca, thanks.

those are the right letters anyway!LOL I need to slow down

[klaasend]

Don't know if this video was already posted or not. Joran at police station, handing over his money, creditcards, pictures etc. His hair looks really blond there!

http://elcomercio.pe/player/490579

Thanks Jo-An

So it looks like all the stuff Joran had left behind in the hotel room he claimed he couldn't remember, the one in Chile was found.  GOOD. 

They have his laptop too!

Klaas or anybody, is this verified?  If so, game so totally over and he is toast!

Police in Peru going through his stuff, while he is present.  Here they are removing his laptop from it's case:

[Ono]

Don't know if this video was already posted or not. Joran at police station, handing over his money, creditcards, pictures etc. His hair looks really blond there!

http://elcomercio.pe/player/490579

Priceless!!!!!

[AZSunny]

Don't know if this video was already posted or not. Joran at police station, handing over his money, creditcards, pictures etc. His hair looks really blond there!

http://elcomercio.pe/player/490579

Thanks Jo-An

So it looks like all the stuff Joran had left behind in the hotel room he claimed he couldn't remember, the one in Chile was found.  GOOD. 

They have his laptop too!

Klaas or anybody, is this verified?  If so, game so totally over and he is toast!

Anna, it is on the attached video...very interesting.

[Anna]

Thanks AZSunny...


http://www.satellite-sightseer.com/id/14540
Miguel Castro Castro Prison

Looks like such a lovely place!  LOL

Lol-I'm sort of enjoying the reading word "dungeon."

Me too. And "alien."

He is a "stranger in a strange land." (albiet not as loveable as Heinlein's stranger. No groks for you, Joran.)

Oh, yes. . .I had the same thought, lol Stranger in a strange land!  Love it when they call him "the alien"!  Circumstances are so totally reversed this time that all this just has karma wirtten all over it.

[klaasend]

Yesterday the Dutch were only going to provide Joran with healthcare and maybe 30 euros a month.  Today, it's an attorney?

Which is it?  Any of our Dutch posters able to nail this down?

Also, I don't even like the healthcare part.  They will try to say he is mentally ill and should be extradited so they can get him into posh surroundings!  I hope Peru will NOT allow even healthcare.

The other prisoners will take his euros so not worried about that.

We don't know for sure and part of the problem is in the different languages and the translators.