Natalee Case Discussion #834 6/4/10 - 6/6/10

[klaasend]

What Joran has to look forward to for the next 25-35 years

 http://video.yahoo.com/watch/7601717/20170154

 
 http://video.yahoo.com/watch/7601761/20170227

 
 http://video.yahoo.com/watch/7601787/20170446

 

[Blue Moon]

BlueMoon my thoughts and prayers are with you and your husband

Thanks Kermie, he will be o.k.   I have tried to keep us all day using my Blackberry, not easy though.

[Ono]

I thought I heard the two homes raided were in the NL, not Aruba, and at the request of the FBI.  We know one was Jaap but I wonder whose the other could be and what evidence they were looking for,

Oh, thanks-I jumped the gun on that. lol

[MuffyBee]

BLUEMOON! I hope your hubby recovers quickly and I'll keep you both in my prayers! {{HUGS}}

Thanks girl.  He is feeling better.  I am the one who needs rest now but can't do that--clothes have to be washed.

Blue Moon
I hope your hubby continues to feel better and please know ya'll are in my thoughts and prayers.  I hope you can get some rest.  

[Shan1628]

2 raids on 2 homes? I know Jaap's but whose is the other?

That is exactly what I heard, I would say JVS, maybe Kalpoe's?

Or Anita's ???

Probably

I believe I heard it was "various places" where JVS stayed...in regards to the extortion case.  Not 100% on that though.

[Lifesong]

2 homes raided in NL.  I wonder whose besides Jaap?

I think I read this morning that it is the person that owns the lie detector equipment.

Well that would definitely make sense.  Interesting that it's US authorities doing both these raids.

Planning to charge him in the US for Murder maybe?

**Question - since the extortion and wire fraud crimes were committed before the murder of Stephany, could the US have first grab at him?  Are the FBI moving so fast to be able to include a murder charge if/when they get him onto US soil?

I just wanna point out that OUR FBI IS/HAS BEEN INVOLVED People doubted it as I recall.

Guilty.
I was one that b*tched and moaned about them letting us down and how they should've done more.
It's a plate of crow I'm happy to eat.

Thank you for all you do too, Kermit.  And your trusty cohorts, I know they're out there. 

[San]

My thoughts exactly.  

And perhaps the no sexual assault on Stephany was because killing her is how he got his gratification this time?  Or maybe he truly does have impotency issues...........hmmmm I think it's time for Aline and Melody to both step forward with their sexual encounters with him.  We already know the Aruban Stephany (can't remember her last name) accused him of drugging her...

I disagree.  I think he planned this entire murder.  He let the world know exactly how he killed Natalee from beginning to the end (casino, drugged, murder and the weapon he used).  In his sick mind he thought he was going to get away with it.  But this time he picked the wrong country and the wrong family.  He picked a father who has as much influence as his own father.  JMO.

[SunnyinTX]

Janet.....I thought it was funny.....but wasn't sure if YOU were being funny.....so I chose not to mention it just in case!@!@

LOL

After 63 years of life ... there is not much I do not get but ... there is much I choose not to acknowledge.

However ... I concede that often others do not get my attempts at sarcasm/humor.  This is why I consider those icons a literally Godsend.

SunnyinTX ... you are on a roll today.

Janet

There are just some people I would walk a mile outta my way to keep from embarrassing...you are one of those people...<insert wink and kiss>

[Northern Rose]

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot is now in custody of National Police of Peru (Video)

http://www.tvo-peru.com/2010/06/holandes-joran-van-der-sloot-ya-esta-en-custodia-de-policia-nacional-del-peru/

[can]

Is it possible X is one of Joran's friends from Aruba, that for the Netherlands
shortly after Natalee 'disappeared.  There was a guy whose Mother alibied him...forget his name.

I'm thinking Guido or Andre - I always get those 2 confused.

Guido's fam. defended him vigorously, gave notice to back off or look at being sued and hired acclaimed lawyer Mr. Sponge. 

[Magnolia]

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot is now in custody of National Police of Peru (Video)

http://www.tvo-peru.com/2010/06/holandes-joran-van-der-sloot-ya-esta-en-custodia-de-policia-nacional-del-peru/

Northern Rose, you have been so on top of the new releases.  Thank you!

[wingnut]

Tonight there was a show on tv, Peter R. de Vries was quoted, he has been speaking to Beth.
Peter R. says Beth told him she did not pay Yoran squad.

Thank you.  So Beth told Peter that she did not pay Joran squat.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it Glenda.

[Lifesong]

Is it possible X is one of Joran's friends from Aruba, that for the Netherlands
shortly after Natalee 'disappeared.  There was a guy whose Mother alibied him...forget his name.

I'm thinking Guido or Andre - I always get those 2 confused.

Guido's fam. defended him vigorously, gave notice to back off or look at being sued and hired acclaimed lawyer Mr. Sponge. 

Yep.  That's the one I was thinking of.  He was the blackjack dealer right?

[can]

2 homes raided in NL.  I wonder whose besides Jaap?

I think I read this morning that it is the person that owns the lie detector equipment.

Well that would definitely make sense.  Interesting that it's US authorities doing both these raids.

Planning to charge him in the US for Murder maybe?

**Question - since the extortion and wire fraud crimes were committed before the murder of Stephany, could the US have first grab at him?  Are the FBI moving so fast to be able to include a murder charge if/when they get him onto US soil?

I just wanna point out that OUR FBI IS/HAS BEEN INVOLVED People doubted it as I recall.

I have never doubted they were involved.  Thank goodness for them!

[jen3560]

My thoughts exactly.  

And perhaps the no sexual assault on Stephany was because killing her is how he got his gratification this time?  Or maybe he truly does have impotency issues...........hmmmm I think it's time for Aline and Melody to both step forward with their sexual encounters with him.  We already know the Aruban Stephany (can't remember her last name) accused him of drugging her...

I disagree.  I think he planned this entire murder.  He let the world know exactly how he killed Natalee from beginning to the end (casino, drugged, murder and the weapon he used).  In his sick mind he thought he was going to get away with it.  But this time he picked the wrong country and the wrong family.  He picked a father who has as much influence as his own father.  JMO.

San, I agree completely with all of your thoughts.  I just wonder at the difference in the sexual assault vs no sexual assault.

I've also been thinking about the Hotel.............remember Joran and Co used to get a room at the Marriott (and one other hotel, can't remember which) to party in?  And Deepak even admitted in one of his statements to ALE that they have taken tourist girl(s) back to those hotel rooms.

I wonder if they took Natalee to one that night....

[SunnyinTX]

Joran on his second day in prison in Peru......

OH HELL....THAT"S NASTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wingnut]

Somebody help me out here...

Wasn't it Joran's brother Val that we heard had said he'd bashed her head in with a baseball bat?

Yes, he said Joran cut her head off above the eyebrows.  Consistent with description of a head wound from something like a bat.

And something about her being in their bathtub?

I have never heard this before.

[San]

2 homes raided in NL.  I wonder whose besides Jaap?

Thanks Anna.

So the 2nd was definitely in the NL also?  Not Kalpoes or the vds home then....

One of his friends there......I checked his friend Kirk, he just got to Thailand today, but I don't know if he has a house in NL...

Or John Ludwick?  (sp?)

OH!  Maybe Patrick's??

What about Guido.

[jen3560]

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot is now in custody of National Police of Peru (Video)

http://www.tvo-peru.com/2010/06/holandes-joran-van-der-sloot-ya-esta-en-custodia-de-policia-nacional-del-peru/

Thanks NR!  I notice Interpol was there.  I find that interesting.

[Kermit]

Guilty.
I was one that b*tched and moaned about them letting us down and how they should've done more.
It's a plate of crow I'm happy to eat.

Thank you for all you do too, Kermit.  And your trusty cohorts, I know they're out there. 

Thank YOU for all you do. The little cohorts are an amazing group.