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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #834 6/4/10 - 6/6/10
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Quote from: darleenofalabama on June 06, 2010, 10:18:46 AM
Thanks, Klassend; it's a nice place to be.
Congratulations for managing a site with so much character for so long.
Welcome darleen. Many Monkeys and Mods were dedicated to seeking justice for Natalee.
Klaas' dedication and hard work was over the top. She was a one man wrecking maching.
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Quote from: klaasend on June 06, 2010, 11:03:14 AM
I added the jumper cables last night after hearing Jug's suggestion
OH perfect, I forgot about Jug saying that! thanks Klaas.
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Quote from: SunnyinTX on June 06, 2010, 10:52:19 AM
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 06, 2010, 05:06:13 AM
Quote from: pinkbanana on June 06, 2010, 12:55:09 AM
Quote from: klaasend on June 06, 2010, 12:30:46 AM
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He isn't getting out of this one.
His outlook on living through this is not good.
It's even worse when you consider... the first phone call
THE BIG BAD GANGSTER "MATON" made...
Was to his mommy.
hahahahah...I am sending this to Jug, he will love the humor!!
I hope you get through, yanno, with Lisa tearing up his ear 24/7.
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Rob- lolol
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someone asked
I'm curious to know how many women he has really killed
im sure there is a cop checking his passport/s now against, missing/dead
women in his travel stamps
i think he used peroxide on his hair, his hair has that red highlite
like when you use peroxide
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #834 6/4/10 - 6/6/10
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Quote from: Nut44x4 on June 06, 2010, 11:04:11 AM
Oh geezzzzzeeeeeeeee ...even the Warden/Prison Director was killed (but not at the prison)
http://www.livinginperu.com/news/11151
http://laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=350139&CategoryId=14095
Tons of human rights issues re: this place...I am sure RU will jump on that bandwagon
Did you see this attached article at the same link Nut?
Van der Sloot may get a 30-year sentence in Peru
LivinginPeru.com
Isabel Guerra
After a 24-hour journey, Dutch citizen Joran Van der Sloot, prime suspect of murdering Peruvian Stephany Flores (21) arrived in Lima, escorted by a large number of police officers and journalists.
Chilean authorities had handed him in to Peruvian authorities yesterday.
Van der Sloot is currently at the Crime Investigation Unit headquarters, where he will be questioned on the details of the murder.
Peruvian attorney Luis Lamas Puccio, a very well known specialist, told El Comercio that the murder of Flores can be determined as aggravated murder, a crime that is sanctioned by Peruvian laws with jail sentence, between 15 and 30 years, depending on the circumstances.
Due to the fact that this murder was particularly cruel (Peruvian police recommended the family not to see the battered body due to the severe trauma signs), and that it seems to have been a premeditated crime, he may get the maximum penalty, that is, 30 years of jail, since there is no death penalty in Peru.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #834 6/4/10 - 6/6/10
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The first few minutes of this week's show is about the case, immediately following in "News in Brief" is a clip from a memorial service attended by Queen Beatrix honoring the American soldiers who died while liberating Europe during WWII.
http://www.rnw.nl/english/video/week-netherlands-0
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #834 6/4/10 - 6/6/10
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Quote from: Rob on June 06, 2010, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: klaasend on June 06, 2010, 09:23:43 AM
Quote from: can on June 06, 2010, 09:09:42 AM
I wonder if there is a receipt or an statement from the clerk of where Joran purchased (reportedly 2 coffees and a loaf of bread). Wonder if he bought clorox or took from hotel cleaning carts. Wonder if he made any attempt to cleanse that room?
Not that it matters... his goose is cooked!
Sounds like they checked on the room because of a foul smell. When the employee got into the room they found Stephany's body laying on the floor face up bleeding out of the nose and ear and blunt force trauma all over her body especially her head. THE EMPLOYEE CALLED POLICE.
They are saying there was blood all over the place so I expect Joran only cleaned himself up and nothing else.
Also, I suspect the found his things (bloody clothes/laptop etc) that he left behind in the hotel he stayed one night in Chile. The hotel he couldn't remember. I'm sure they found that and got his stuff.
Not look good for Joran, not one bit.
I think you have this all correct - except - he was overdue on the room charges. He previously had a phone call that was not answered. They sent someone to the room (because of the room charges) - heard the TV on and that's when the person was alerted by the smell.
sorta shoots Cindy's and George's decomp story in the ass. even a hotel employee recognized the smell of a dead body. But I completely understand how a former homicide detective and a nurse could have no clue - < chuckles >
LOL
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #834 6/4/10 - 6/6/10
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It's not surprising he chose not to answer questions about the Flores murder. He's been on the run and on the road for how many days now, I'll bet he has no clue about the evidence they have against him. He was never confronted in Aruba with evidence against him because they made it disappear. I guess he thinks its the same old, same old..deny deny deny. Surely he isn't aware of the videotape they have of him and Steph together entering his room. In his sick mind, he probably thinks he can still beat this charge. Ohhhh the arrogance >.<
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Quote from: carpe noctem on June 06, 2010, 04:54:11 AM
He (Carlos Gonzalo) said
"they found bloodied clothes with" van der Sloot
and that investigators are testing them, as well as the tennis racquet, for DNA.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/05/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T2
Whoop! Whoop! Whoop!
(I'm so far behind and have just gotten to this point...if more has come out about subsequent to this - like no clothes were found - I'm sorry, but just couldn't wait to read to the end to shout with joy over this tidbit)!
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #834 6/4/10 - 6/6/10
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June 06, 2010, 11:33:33 AM »
Quote from: Rob on June 06, 2010, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: SunnyinTX on June 06, 2010, 10:52:19 AM
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 06, 2010, 05:06:13 AM
Quote from: pinkbanana on June 06, 2010, 12:55:09 AM
Quote from: klaasend on June 06, 2010, 12:30:46 AM
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He isn't getting out of this one.
His outlook on living through this is not good.
It's even worse when you consider... the first phone call
THE BIG BAD GANGSTER "MATON" made...
Was to his mommy.
hahahahah...I am sending this to Jug, he will love the humor!!
I hope you get through, yanno, with Lisa tearing up his ear 24/7.
LMAO! You're sooooo bad Rob!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #834 6/4/10 - 6/6/10
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Quote from: klaasend on June 06, 2010, 09:46:25 AM
http://www.ojo.com.pe/ojo/nota.php?txtSecci_parent=0&txtSecci_id=2&txtNota_id=366996
Through translator:
I wish we could relieve his anguish ... This dreadful deed was not his fault, nor Stephany's fault.
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Quote from: Puzzler on June 06, 2010, 11:27:54 AM
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 06, 2010, 04:54:11 AM
He (Carlos Gonzalo) said
"they found bloodied clothes with" van der Sloot
and that investigators are testing them, as well as the tennis racquet, for DNA.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/05/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T2
Whoop! Whoop! Whoop!
(I'm so far behind and have just gotten to this point...if more has come out about subsequent to this - like no clothes were found - I'm sorry, but just couldn't wait to read to the end to shout with joy over this tidbit)!
Carlos Gonzalo is with Peru's Interior Ministry...I wonder how that is connected to the police department, and is he their spokesperson? I am wondering about some of his facts. They differ from some other reports from the police department. Very confused (>.<)...aaakkkkk
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #834 6/4/10 - 6/6/10
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here's my list of people who
should
be thrown in a Peruvian prison.
Anita, Mark Purcell, Julie "fluffah" Renho', van der Straaten, Dompig, Arlene, Reuben, Tito, Valentijn, Sebas (cause he's such an ass), Ole Nellie, Marisol, Rudy, Fat ass Mr Cornflakes, Boeti, Lorenzo (just so I don't ever hear his name again lol) Deepcrack and his idjet brother Satish, Michael Dompig, Kawish, Anyone related to Kawish, Mark Purcell's pyromaniac son, Jules Sambo, Machelle, Marlene, Freddy, Sasha, Aline, the corpse of Paulus, Antonio Carlo, Karin "VaJayJay" Jensen, R Vrolik, Hotshit, ********, Sindalee, pantyboy, Geoffery Cromvoirt, AB (whoever the hell that really was), Mr and Mrs Kettlewappie Rameriz, Kyle Kingman, John Schaeffer, "Lighttanks", Posner, Scubajap, Peeps, Bernadino, Papito, Tacopina, Rosemary "pitbull" Arnold, Ed Roos, Mrs Kub ...
feel free to add.
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Quote from: Ono on June 06, 2010, 11:33:49 AM
Quote from: klaasend on June 06, 2010, 09:46:25 AM
http://www.ojo.com.pe/ojo/nota.php?txtSecci_parent=0&txtSecci_id=2&txtNota_id=366996
Through translator:
I wish we could relieve his anguish ... This dreadful deed was not his fault, nor Stephany's fault.
I think the little insert regarding Nextels refusal to help locate her phone is interesting.
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Good List..
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Quote from: Rob on June 06, 2010, 11:01:26 AM
Quote from: SunnyinTX on June 06, 2010, 10:51:19 AM
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 06, 2010, 04:51:24 AM
The Dutch Consulate
is now involved in the case and has
volunteered a defense attorney
for van der Sloot, according to Carlos Neyra, a spokesman for the Peruvian Investigative Police.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/05/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T2
again, thanks carpe
ya know, I HATE to be so cynical, but it's part of my nature.
This is crap. Offering a defense - who didn't see that coming like a freight train. Let him pay for his own lawyers. He' a bigshot with poker winnings, travel accounts, and the jet-set playboy life.
Funny all the money miraculously dried up.
this has nothing to do with "offering counsel" - nothing at all. Mark my words.
AND here IT comes.
Change of venue motions, let's move him to a secure location in Holland and have the trial at the Hague, he is never gonna get a fair trial with you barbarians running the show. yada yada yada, blah blah blah ...
and with that - they make it perfectly clear that they were behind all the crap that Natalee's family faced for five f'ing long years. Sorry dutchies, you deserve better than this and you should not be footing the bill for any of this non-sense.
Uggghhhhh...
Hi ya Sunny! lol
Hi Rob..... I am with ya.....the beginning of a deal...I keep saying it cause I keep believing it
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Natalee, We will never forget.
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Quote from: Rob on June 06, 2010, 11:34:15 AM
here's my list of people who
should
be thrown in a Peruvian prison.
Anita, Mark Purcell, Julie "fluffah" Renho', van der Straaten, Dompig, Arlene, Reuben, Tito, Valentijn, Sebas (cause he's such an ass), Ole Nellie, Marisol, Rudy, Fat ass Mr Cornflakes, Boeti, Lorenzo (just so I don't ever hear his name again lol) Deepcrack and his idjet brother Satish, Michael Dompig, Kawish, Anyone related to Kawish, Mark Purcell's pyromaniac son, Jules Sambo, Machelle, Marlene, Freddy, Sasha, Aline,
the corpse of Paulus
, Antonio Carlo, Karin "VaJayJay" Jensen, R Vrolik, Hotshit, ********, Sindalee, pantyboy, Geoffery Cromvoirt, AB (whoever the hell that really was), Mr and Mrs Kettlewappie Rameriz, Kyle Kingman, John Schaeffer, "Lighttanks", Posner, Scubajap, Peeps, Bernadino, Papito, Tacopina, Rosemary "pitbull" Arnold, Ed Roos, Mrs Kub ...
feel free to add.
LOLOL...I agree.
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Quote from: klaasend on June 06, 2010, 11:03:14 AM
I added the jumper cables last night after hearing Jug's suggestion
Oh I thought it was carpe.....sorry Klaas.....I sent it to Jug this morning! LOL
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Rest in Peace Caylee
Natalee, We will never forget.
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Quote from: blah on June 06, 2010, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: Jo-An on June 06, 2010, 07:39:49 AM
Joran contacted his lawyer in Holland TWICE!
Once while he was on the run and the second time when he was detained in Chile!!
Quote
Helmond lawyer: Joran confesses not
Friday, June 4, 2010 | 24:32 | Last updated: Friday, June 4, 2010 | 9:11 p.m.
Helmond - Joran van der Sloot has "certainly not aware" that his 21-year-old Stephany Flores killed in Peru.
"On the contrary," said his lawyer Bert de Rooij Helmond.
The counsel has an e-mail a few times had contact with Van der Sloot.
"Once when he was at liberty to my surprise and later from the police in Chile where he was stuck."
What does Van der Sloot had informed about his involvement in the case will not say De Rooij.
"This is not in the interest of Joran."
Van der Sloot in the night on Thursday as his mother called.
"She is shocked and worried. It is not nothing what she gets on her plate," says De Rooij, a former classmate who is the father of Van der Sloot.
Helmond The lawyer is currently looking for lawyers in Chile and Peru that Van der Sloot can assist.
Van der Sloot has been visited by a representative of the Dutch Embassy in Chile, said De Rooij.
http://www.ed.nl/regio/helmondstad/6785388/Helmondse-advocaat-Joran-bekent-niet.ece
Anita is a huge POS!! She should drop to her knees and beg forgiviness from the families involved. She should appologize every opportunity she gets.
I so agree.
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===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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