Vote Fraud, Citizenship, & Amnesty

[WhiskeyGirl]

Veteran Latino-rights advocate charged with voter fraud

June 25, 2009 |  7:09 am

Felony charges have been filed and an arrest warrant issued for a well-known Orange County political activist suspected of committing election and voter registration fraud, the California secretary of State's office announced Wednesday.

Investigators in the agency's election-fraud unit said Nativo V. Lopez, 57, of Santa Ana leased office space in Boyle Heights and registered to vote using that address although he lived with his family in Orange County. They also say Lopez, president of the Mexican American Political Assn., cast an illegal ballot in L.A. in the 2008 presidential primary.

The Los Angeles County district attorney's office, which is working with the secretary of State, charged Lopez with four felonies: fraudulent voter registration, fraudulent document filing, perjury and fraudulent voting. A warrant was issued for his arrest and bail was set at $10,000. The offenses carry penalties of up to three years in prison.

Lopez is a longtime Latino political-rights advocate in Orange County who served on the Santa Ana school board. Lopez has been a vocal advocate for Latino voting rights and supported immigrant amnesty and allowing undocumented workers to have driver's licenses. He could not immediately be reached for comment.

In 1997, the Orange County district attorney opened a criminal investigation into allegations that a group in which Lopez was a leader registered some clients to vote before they took the oath of citizenship. No criminal charges were brought, and Lopez demanded an apology from critics.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/veteran-latinorights-advocate-charged-with-voter-fraud.html

I wonder how many illegal aliens vote?  Will have all their crimes ignored due to Obama's amnesty program?

[WhiskeyGirl]

“The slogan in 2006-2007 was, ‘Today we march, tomorrow we vote,’” Perez recalled. “We found out voting didn’t work. We need to demand the overturning of SB 1070 and legalization without conditions.” Instead, he explained, the movement split between total legalization and so-called “comprehensive immigration reform,” which as it’s evolved in Congress has meant stricter enforcement on the border against new immigrants, a guest-worker program similar to the bracero program from 1942 to 1964, and a punitive “path to citizenship” for the estimated 12 million undocumented immigrants currently here that gets more onerous with each revision of the proposal. Perez quoted Latino activist Nativo Lopez as saying we should “fight for the perfect,” arguing that if immigrant rights activists accept “comprehensive immigration reform” instead of demanding legalization without preconditions, that in itself “pulls the debate to the Right.”

At least two audience members questioned the panelists about how to deal with the public perception of undocumented immigrants as “illegals” whose very presence on U.S. soil makes them criminals and therefore appropriate targets for law enforcement. “Just because something is the law doesn’t mean it is just,” Wilson said. “It was once against the law in this country for slaves to learn to read [or for people to teach them to read], and even after the slaves were freed it was against the law for people of different races to marry.” (Actually virtually all the laws against interracial marriage prohibited it only if one of the parties was white — a fact cited by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1967 as establishing the racist intent of those laws when they found them unconstitutional.)

“How do you define ‘illegal’? No human being is illegal,” de los Rios said. “There’s a lot of discussion about status. It’s about human rights rather than laws. Just because they want the right to discriminate, Latinos are the new slaves. We’re the new scapegoats for everything, including foreclosures. What do we do about the borders? It’s not Left or Right, it’s a human issue. People are sacrificing their lives to come here.”

At some point taxation becomes theft.  What about the theft of American's money?  All the lost opportunity for citizens and those here legally?

We already have an orderly immigration system - for some reason, some folks do not want to complete an application and wait patiently for permission to enter. Why is that?

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/05/29/18649179.php

Great cultures, societies, and nations exist only when EVERYONE contributes.  A good welfare/socialist  state cannot exist with open borders.

Denmark has closed their border for some time, paid immigrants to leave, and allows little, almost NO new immigration. 

China doesn't allow millions of North Koreans to storm the border or enter legally.

Mexico doesn't allow millions of South and Central Americans to storm their border and stay, and take advantage of social welfare programs.

Why does everyone want to destroy the US?

Why don't these folks make their own nations better?

Demand accountability in their own homelands?

Ask politicians where all the money goes?

just my humble opinions

[WhiskeyGirl]

Meanwhile, Obama has expanded the 287(g) program of collaboration between local law enforcement and ICE, as well as the Secure Communities Program, which uses arrest warrants for individuals as an excuse to carry out raids. Then there's Operation Streamline, which imposes criminal charges on all those accused of crossing the border illegally.

At this pace, according to Nativo López, president of the Mexican American Political Association, Obama's first two years in office will see 800,000 deportations and compel 2 million Mexicans to "voluntarily" return to their country of origin.

more here - http://socialistworker.org/2010/05/26/fight-all-us

Is 2 million Mexicans returning voluntarily a bad thing? 

If 40 million came voluntarily, and without papers, why can't they return on their own?