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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #835 6/6/10 - 6/8/10  (Read 369896 times)
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« Reply #1280 on: June 08, 2010, 04:54:55 AM »


Maybe.  But, what's still puzzling me (sorry for the pun) is why no one heard anything in the adjacent rooms?  Here's a woman being beaten to death in the room next to you, but an act that violent doesn't produce any sound?  If I have the TV up too loud in the livingroom my wife yells at me to turn it down.  Again, why no noise (or complainst about it)?  Strange...

The rooms had tile walls, and it looked like this room was on the end (last room before the security camera).  It may be that no one could hear.

I thought someone heard them arguing twice.



Bearly - I read that too.

Here are the screen shots from NG 6/7/10 for anybody who missed them.

Hotel Room Crime Scene

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8087.new#new

Thanks, Carpe.

Geeze............

I wonder where her pants went. 




Good questions.  I've read a number of times that clothes were strewn around the room.

Who's clothes?  Were Stephany's pants there?



That's what I was wondering and if they were ripped or were they folded or hung up.

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« Reply #1281 on: June 08, 2010, 04:55:44 AM »

Guys, I've been reading back, but am fading fast. Do we know when the press conference is and do we know if Anita has arrived yet? TIA!!

Hi CBB - I could swear I saw someone type 2... some pages back.

I don`t know for sure.

It's 5 her time.



Thanks Miss Bear!!

You're welcome, Cutie!

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« Reply #1282 on: June 08, 2010, 04:57:28 AM »

So, when Anita gets to Peru, she will be greeted with the fact that Joran has already confessed.

Do we know "when" Anita is due to arrive in Peru?



The shriek heard round the world.  If that doesn't plug up that oil leak, nothing will!

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« Reply #1283 on: June 08, 2010, 05:02:47 AM »

I can just hear that old fat wind bag now...


....oooooh, the girl wanted to pry into the Sporter`s computer.

We don`t do that in Aruba. She should have left it alone!!!!

All her fault.

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« Reply #1284 on: June 08, 2010, 05:04:46 AM »

I can just hear that old fat wind bag now...


....oooooh, the girl wanted to pry into the Sporter`s computer.

We don`t do that in Aruba. She should have left it alone!!!!

All her fault.



the delicious sporter...

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« Reply #1285 on: June 08, 2010, 05:05:36 AM »

So, when Anita gets to Peru, she will be greeted with the fact that Joran has already confessed.

Do we know "when" Anita is due to arrive in Peru?



The shriek heard round the world.  If that doesn't plug up that oil leak, nothing will!



Good one! Smile

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« Reply #1286 on: June 08, 2010, 05:07:06 AM »

I can just hear that old fat wind bag now...


....oooooh, the girl wanted to pry into the Sporter`s computer.

We don`t do that in Aruba. She should have left it alone!!!!

All her fault.



Yep!  (Not the grace under fire that Beth always displays!)

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« Reply #1287 on: June 08, 2010, 05:11:31 AM »

BRUTAL ANIMAL WITHOUT ANY MERCY WHATSOEVER

10 Punches to the face - shattering her nose and mouth.

5 Tennis racquet blows to the head, neck and all over the body

She could only be recognized by her hair.

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Joran is a monster.
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« Reply #1288 on: June 08, 2010, 05:14:23 AM »

BRUTAL ANIMAL WITHOUT ANY MERCY WHATSOEVER

10 Punches to the face - shattering her nose and mouth.

5 Tennis racquet blows to the head, neck and all over the body

She could only be recognized by her hair.

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Joran is a monster.

And we read in other articles that she had deep bruises on her legs....I think he kicked her, too.

He was in a frenzy!

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« Reply #1289 on: June 08, 2010, 05:25:15 AM »




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« Reply #1290 on: June 08, 2010, 05:35:47 AM »

http://www.trome.com/tonline/Html/2010-06-07/ontractualidad1093733.html

translated:

She was killed by reviewing your laptop
By J. Yucra

It is professional poker player and believed to have an ace up his sleeve, but his alibi collapsed like a house of cards. The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (23) had no other choice but to confess to the murder of the young Stephany Flores Ramirez (21), whom he met at a casino in Miraflores. "Yes, I killed her. I did, I accept," he said with a breathtaking cold, with no sign of repentance.

According to police sources, the murderer, during interrogation by more than ten hours, attributed the crime to the anger that caused him to find the girl reviewing the files on your laptop.

It is presumed that she opened her e-mails that the subject had known about his criminal acts. Then the girl confirmed the suspicion in the Internet search engines, where there is abundant information of the crime of Natalee Holloway (17) and the extortion of their parents, in Aruba, facts of which he is the prime suspect.

Van der Sloot had confessed his crime minutes after 9 pm last Sunday. After a deep breath and fell silent for long seconds.

Would have revealed that the crime occurred after 8:20 am on Sunday 30 May at the hotel 'Tac' of Miraflores, where they had taken after meeting at the casino 'Atlantic'. Joran had gone to buy bread and coffee for breakfast. She took advantage of his absence to check your laptop and discovered he was a murderer and extortionist.

Punching and racket
"He came back and was enraged. The two began to argue violently. The man shot to death," a police source told.

This version is confirmed by the coffee residue found on the floor and the victim had bruises on various parts of the body.

Also, the summary of autopsy determined that she showed signs of ten punches in the face that broke his nose and mouth, causing a time-to-eye inflammation.

In addition, five blows to the head and neck with a racket head trauma caused her death necessary. She also had bruises on the hands and feet, as they tried to defend himself, but was little he could do to a man over 90 meters tall.


Then, after committing the murder, the stranger kept his belongings in two suitcases and valuables from the victim, as well as jewelry and money, to leave the accommodation.

On the other hand, it was learned that yesterday three Forensic psychologists were gathered for at least five hours with foreign countries.

His public defender, Carla Odría, waived the defense when he heard the confession.

G'day Monkeys.

Still catching up but just a word of warning about taking the translations too literally :

A man 90 metres tall would be about 295 feet tall.  lol

Looking forward to hearing more about the charges against this waste of space.
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« Reply #1291 on: June 08, 2010, 05:42:36 AM »

A little more then 5 years since we started this journey..

The End.


Edward, my understanding of how the Monkeys feel is that "The End" will only come when Natalee is returned to her family, and Beth tells us our work and support is over.
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« Reply #1292 on: June 08, 2010, 06:11:32 AM »

A little more then 5 years since we started this journey..

The End.


Edward, my understanding of how the Monkeys feel is that "The End" will only come when Natalee is returned to her family, and Beth tells us our work and support is over.


Exactly.
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« Reply #1293 on: June 08, 2010, 06:17:23 AM »

So, when Anita gets to Peru, she will be greeted with the fact that Joran has already confessed.

Do we know "when" Anita is due to arrive in Peru?



The shriek heard round the world.  If that doesn't plug up that oil leak, nothing will!



LOL! I'm not so sure that Anita with all her connections is going to be able to help "sporter" in any meaningful way this time. I'm thinking that regardless of the time he gets, if it's in a Peruvian prison, he's not coming out alive.
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« Reply #1294 on: June 08, 2010, 06:19:19 AM »

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/08/report-van-der-sloot-confesses-peru-murder/

He Confessed
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« Reply #1295 on: June 08, 2010, 06:22:30 AM »

A little more then 5 years since we started this journey..

The End.


Edward, my understanding of how the Monkeys feel is that "The End" will only come when Natalee is returned to her family, and Beth tells us our work and support is over.


Exactly.

Ditto. Even then, just as it has changed Beth, I think Natalee will always change each of us, too. I hope we can use the experience in as positive way as Beth has.

We're not to the end yet, though. We have a trial and hopefully, we'll get to see Natalee laid to rest away from Aruba. It's time for Natalee to come home, where those who love her can tend to her final resting place.
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« Reply #1296 on: June 08, 2010, 06:24:50 AM »

BRUTAL ANIMAL WITHOUT ANY MERCY WHATSOEVER

10 Punches to the face - shattering her nose and mouth.

5 Tennis racquet blows to the head, neck and all over the body

She could only be recognized by her hair.

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Please do not ever forget this post.

Joran is a monster.

I put this up there with the video of Beth watching the DeVries video. Well said, Carpe! Joran is a monster and he's caused so much pain!!
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« Reply #1297 on: June 08, 2010, 06:25:52 AM »

Is there a press conference in Peru going on right now? It was expected at 4 am Peru time. (2 am on our west coast, 5 am on our east coast.) What was said?
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« Reply #1298 on: June 08, 2010, 06:32:43 AM »

Is there a press conference in Peru going on right now? It was expected at 4 am Peru time. (2 am on our west coast, 5 am on our east coast.) What was said?

Not ignoring you Port Valerie! I'm looking! Nothing's been posted about it yet!
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« Reply #1299 on: June 08, 2010, 06:34:21 AM »

Well the alleged confession is being reported even on CNN this morning.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/08/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T1

Lima, Peru (CNN) -- Joran van der Sloot could be formally charged as early as Tuesday in the killing of Stephany Flores Ramirez, Peruvian government authorities said.

The government authorities said Van der Sloot confessed to murder late Monday. He will likely be held at one of three maximum security prisons -- Castro Castro, Piedras Gordas and Lurigancho, authorities said.

Efforts by CNN to contact van der Sloot's attorney were not immediately successful.

At his first court appearance, the judge may set a hearing date for van der Sloot and could order additional investigations in the case.

The Peruvian justice system often issues a lighter sentence in cases where the suspect confesses. That may have influenced his alleged confession.


Van der Sloot could get up to 35 years in prison. There is no death penalty or life sentence in Peru.

A Peruvian police report leaked Monday said Flores was found in his hotel room on the floor, half-dressed. The report provides new details about the hours before Flores' body was found.

Van der Sloot, who was twice arrested in connection with the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005.

According to the document, the Hotel Tac, where van der Sloot was staying, received a call from someone looking for him about 11 p.m. June 1. The receptionist forwarded the call, but no one answered. The hotel worker assumed that van der Sloot was asleep because the room key was with him and not the front desk.

About an hour later, according to the police report, the receptionist noticed that van der Sloot owed money for two nights and went up to his room, where her knocks went unanswered. The television was blaring, so the hotel employee figured he was resting, the report says.

Afterward, the hotel supervisor told the employee to go back to van der Sloot's room and enter using a spare key. When the employee went in, she found Flores' body on the floor, dressed in a black T-shirt and red panties, half-covered with a piece of white clothing, the police report said.

Flores was bleeding from her nose, the report said.

The hotel employee became frightened at the sight and went to alert her supervisor and the police, turning off the television and lights on her way out of the room, the report said.

The developments in the van der Sloot case come as the Natalee Holloway Resource Center opens in Washington Tuesday. The nonprofit center is located at the National Museum of Crime and Punishment and Natalee's mother Beth Holloway is scheduled to attend its opening.

The center is being opened to provide families of missing persons help with managing their crisis and to give students advice on traveling safely.
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