Natalee Case Discussion #835 6/6/10 - 6/8/10

[Angiex911dsptchr]

My baby girl woke up a bit  ago...  <my beautiful grandaughter>  I fed her at the moment shes watching an ELMO dvd.. I need to go and sit with her.. ELMO for the rest of the night for me..  TY all for posting updates. I have a busy today tomorrow for work.. hope to be able to catch up sometime or someone emails me ? TIA

Have a great night !

Off to go snuggle with my Morgan baby !! 

[ozziesmom]

Julia Renhoe is at it again! Can't stand her!

[seemeatthebeach]

Beotch Julia on JVM arguing with talking heads.....insisting NO cover-up by Aruba authorities

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Dragnet]

Julia R is on JVM, they were showing a picture of her on the phone.  Did someone beat her with the ugly stick?

[Cappuccino]

OMG   Renho on JVM HLN right now STILL spitting her garbage, it got a good bit testy on air for a few seconds...my words to her

Blood on your hands beeotch!

[Rob]

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I smell another rat making deal coming

Paulus,
van der Straaten,
Oduber,
Rooij

[Nut44x4]

Julia R is on JVM, they were showing a picture of her on the phone.  Did someone beat her with the ugly stick?

LMFAOOOOOO I love it when they use that photo of her....hahahaaa

[Buckeye]

At what point, during the barbaric treatment, did they take a break for him to call his mother?  How barbaric is that?

[texasmom]

At what point, during the barbaric treatment, did they take a break for him to call his mother?  How barbaric is that?

Great point Buckeye!

[SunnyinTX]

me too!  I got a tee shirt at one of the TES fundraisers in Houston ..that said Natalee Holloway Search in Aruba....it was my favorite TES shirt. Dave came to a TES golf fund raiser in Houston and asked me where I got the shirt....he liked it. I asked around to see if TES has any left....nope, none...so I took off my pink tee shirt and gave it to Dave.....he thanked me and gave me a big old hug....with tears in his eyes...he said I should never have let her go.... I hope he has come to realize that he couldn't have stopped her or what happened.

That was so sweet of you to do that for Dave. At least he knows through yours and many people's actions who have stood by this case and never gave up hope - he was not alone. let's home we can get'em all now and bring Natalee home to her family and her home - America!

AMEN to that Kermit.   Natalee's FAMILY.....all of them...need to be able to have her home, give her a proper Christian burial and have a place to go and sit and reflect. I think at time many forgot there was a father and a step father who also mourned the loss of Natalee.

[jen3560]

I was shown how and I was surprised with the right application how to do it, how easy it is.

Stephany Flores Ramirez's brother stated over the phone to Nancy Grace that his sister's eye was missing. Most likely that is due to blunt force trauma - her head being beaten on the wood of that bed. The bruises to her knees and top of her feet, for me, indicate she was on her knees at some point and that was caused by carpet burns wherein she was most likely trying to fight him. She was just a little ity bity thing compared to the size and girth of Joran.

I don't believe Stephany used his computer and find information he had on his computer about Natalee or himself. Joran studies law, his father also was someone they said knew all the laws by memory, Joran went and got coffee to get himself an alibi.

Remember, not long ago Joran was offering on a website to TEACH people poker for a price. I'll venture a guess that when they went to his room, he took out his computer to show her some of his big poker skills.

Something happened and I need to find that date - Joran's mother and brother removed Joran from their facebook. Jen do you have that handy????

Also, we know that Aruba helped Joran cover up the crime to Natalee, so it's not so far-fetched that Joran was tipped off about an arrest for extortion and he fled to Columbia.

Anyways, I know that some of his friends were in Columbia, so it would not surprise me if he had gone there first to join them and then took off for Lima, Peru for the casinos.

He had 10,000.00 cash plus $15,000.00 wired to his account. When he was in custody,
didn't they count out vent y cinco - something like  20 bucks on him. Where's the money?

Do we have an account of what he lost or won in the casino?

Honey, the day the news broke - it was that same night.  Sorry about a lack of dates from me right now, I'm all sorts of discombobulated these days.

[Elaine]

Hi monkeys!

I read here where Steve Watts said that Dave Holloway is headed to Aruba.

This article also says that, and says he will be joining Tim Miller tomorrow.

I hope Dave Holloway is not being put through another wild goose chase?

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7486016&rss=rss-ktrk-article-7486016

Hi Elaine!  Good to see you!

I hope not too.  

Hi texasmom!

Good to see you too. Kudos to all the monkeys who have kept Natalee's story going here.

I was just watchimg JVM on CNN and Julia was on the phone. She started her babbling about how Aruba couldn't do anything blahblahblaaaaah. Then Jane struck the gavel down and poof Julia was no longer on. I swear I heard the sound of hot air being let out of a big balloon as Julia fizzled away.

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NOTE:  I'VE MADE SOME CHANGES IN THE LOOKS OF THE FORUM.  I HAVE CREATED CHILD BOARDS.  NOTHING IS GONE, JUST CLICK ON THE MAIN AREA AND YOU WILL SEE ALL THE OLD THREADS.

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[Nut44x4]

O/T  >>>>>>>>>>>

Re: Ryann Bunnell Crow 23, CA  Missing Since 1/30/09

REMAINS FOUND

http://www.thecalifornian.com/article/20100608/NEWS01/100608019/1002/NEWS01/Monterey+County+DA++Ryann+Bunnell+Crow+s+body+found

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7158.new#new

[Tamikosmom]

Aruban officials uncertain reported Joran van der Sloot confession will help Natalee Holloway case

June 08, 2010, 3:31PM

The Birmingham News
Natalee Holloway (Birmingham News file)

Aruban officials say they're uncertain a reported confession from Joran van der Sloot will be enough to convict him but they still hope information that comes from his interrogation in Peru will help them with Natalee Holloway's case.

Van der Sloot has long been the prime suspect in Holloway's 2005 disappearance in Aruba. A police spokesman in Peru said he admitted under questioning that he killed 21-year-old Stephany Flores, who was found dead in his hotel room.

That report has given Aruban investigators hope but van der Sloot has been so unreliable that it must be verified, Aruban Attorney General Taco Stein said in a phone interview this afternoon.

"We have had so many statements by Joran that we will have to evaluate that very carefully," Stein said.

He said he had been in communication with the Peruvian prosecutor's office and is ready to send Aruban investigators to take part if permission is granted.

Although an Aruban newspaper editor reported that police were renewing their search for Holloway's remains on the island, Stein said that there is no official search underway. He said private investigators may be conducting some kind of search.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/06/aruban_officials_uncertain_rep.html

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Page 184:  Then FBI agent Bill comes by and delivers the final blow. "The FBI has never received one single document from the Arubans. Not one tape. Nothing." he says sadly. Depite our personal pleas to authorities here and our broadcast appeals to Aruba to let the FBI lend a hand, and regardless of Aruba's public response that it would welcome FBI assistance, the island never let FBI agents in on the investigation. Never passed them the ball. Not even for one minute.

[cw618]

If Aruba notified the FBI that Joran was leaving Aruba on May 13th and Interpol can prove he was in Colombia on May 6th, wouldn't that prove that Aruba gave Joran a week to get out of "dodge"?

very interesting

Absoflippinlutely

had got behind,and was just working that out
agreed
Absoflippinlutely

[jen3560]

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I smell another rat making deal coming

Aw hell.  Daddy's school.  Don't worry Kerm, I have a feeling Peru isn't going to tolerate the Dutch elitist attitude that we all saw so prevalently in Aruba.

[seemeatthebeach]

"Possible false confession Joran" AMSTERDAM - Joran van der Sloot may have under pressure a false confession to the murder of Stephany Flores. That says his Dutch lawyer Bert de Rooij.
Under De Rooij Joran shortly before his confession in a telephone conversation with his mother indicated that he was afraid of the interrogation methods of the Peruvian police, he told RTL Nieuws. The crying Joran would have called such methods "barbaric."

De Rooij van der Sloot represents in this case, but he advises him.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6893537/___Mogelijk_valse_bekentenis_Joran___.html?cid=short

"Under De Rooij Joran shortly before his confession in a telephone conversation with his mother indicated that he was afraid of the interrogation methods of the Peruvian police, he told RTL Nieuws. The crying Joran would have called such methods "barbaric."mother."
What was he thinking when Stephany was crying for her life.

Apparently the English to Dutch translation of Joe
Tacopina is "Bert de Rooij"

Joran your a CANDY ASS

To satisfy all the Peruvian prisoners "sweet tooth" cravings

[Lifesong]

Tim Miller breaks the news on HLN!  Telling JVM about the girls in Columbia!

Way to go, Tim!

[Rob]

If Aruba notified the FBI that Joran was leaving Aruba on May 13th and Interpol can prove he was in Colombia on May 6th, wouldn't that prove that Aruba gave Joran a week to get out of "dodge"?

very interesting

Absoflippinlutely

Tim Miller just made it go national - THERE MUST BE SOMETHING MORE HERE.

The Colombians must have some travel dates that are jiving.