Natalee Case Discussion #835 6/6/10 - 6/8/10

[Rob]

right we found out it was Kock... that was a really old pic - really old.

[San]

The voluntary use of marijauna is a mitigating factor.  It can help you when you get before a judge.

In Peru you are eligible for parole after serving one third.

[Lifesong]

Forgive me for saying this if it offends, but I think she went to his room to smoke pot.

[texasmom]

Sorry everyone, answered a question that wasn't being asked!

[ozziesmom]

Forgive me for saying this if it offends, but I think she went to his room to smoke pot.

I can see that...

[Gypsy DD]

And just for the record ..I am not thinking that Natalee or Stephany met his criteria of ..just that he held women in disrespect always.  Why in the hell is mother is running to him now...well ..just for looks I suppose.  If she really cared she would have been there a few days ago.

BBM -HUH?

Rob..this was an interview with a Dutchman who was in Aruba at the same table with Joran.  Well, before Stephany was murdered.   He said Joran said that he wanted to marry an UGLY  rich womant so she would have to marry him..and he could carry on his lifestyle with her money.   This was not someone he recently met in Peru.

I am saying that neither Natalee or Stephany met his criteria because they were not ugly.   

[Anna]

The family of Stephany Flores seemed to know about her checking on information about Natalee all along.  They said from the get-go that she died trying to get justice for Natalee as though they already knew this.

[robots]

is she trying to go to the bathroom??

i thought only male dogs lifted their legs ?



and, NO im not sorry for saying this


i hate her

[yuknomenot]

On Nancy it was said that Joran claimed he had been smoking pot and they said in Peru that is a mitigating factor that will reduce his sentence.  I will wait for verification from another source I think.

[klaasend]

Forgive me for saying this if it offends, but I think she went to his room to smoke pot.

Didn't her father say something about giving her $1000 to buy a laptop?  Wonder if Joran lured her to his room saying he would sell her his laptop for cheap? 

[imnoangel]

LOL
Hi Rob
I'm gonna check the newspaper.
be right back
but im a slowwww typer

[Rob]

Forgive me for saying this if it offends, but I think she went to his room to smoke pot.

my thoughts the entire time, but I'm not gonna slammmmm a murder victim, but this is what happened.

[Shan1628]

Forgive me for saying this if it offends, but I think she went to his room to smoke pot.

I'm not offended and I agree.  I think Joran befriended her and as friends she thought she was going to his hotel room to smoke pot.  I read somewhere that they played together at the same table for a few nights prior, so it wasn't like they had JUST met.  Maybe someone else knows if they played poker together the night prior????

[Edward]

I have never seen such a jumble of information and disinformation!  Always happens around Joran and is deliberate to muddy the waters and cloud things.

But the bottom line is Peru has Joran completely with or without any confession.

It is being done on purpose just like with Aruba..

The DUTCH learned how to make disinformation work for them from the Germans years ago.
They are already working a plan.
 The intention will be to create an environment that will not allow for Joran to receive a fair trial in Peru. Then they will play politics..
Our News and Everyone needs to be quiet and not react to any of the information coming out of various locations at the moment..
Although I agree it will be near impossible to get N.G. to shut up for a minute.
 

[Rob]

And just for the record ..I am not thinking that Natalee or Stephany met his criteria of ..just that he held women in disrespect always.  Why in the hell is mother is running to him now...well ..just for looks I suppose.  If she really cared she would have been there a few days ago.

BBM -HUH?

Rob..this was an interview with a Dutchman who was in Aruba at the same table with Joran.  Well, before Stephany was murdered.   He said Joran said that he wanted to marry an UGLY  rich womant so she would have to marry him..and he could carry on his lifestyle with her money.   This was not someone he recently met in Peru.

I am saying that neither Natalee or Stephany met his criteria because they were not ugly.   

umm, ok. There's an old joke - "I'm gonna marry a woman with ten million dollars and six months to live". With Joran you can take that literally.

I somehow don't see that as completely honest, coming from Joran. lol

[Dragnet]

hello everyone
i have not read all posts yet so i do not know what ou already know or not.
the second person who's house was searched in the netherlands is the house of a student.
his name is not made known.

Jaap says Joran told him where the body of Natalee is.
were you updated on that yet?

do you think it was it one of the guys he lived with that made life shear hell for the neighbors?

I still have this lying around - lol

Hey, that's where I bought MY car LOL.  Are you from the Burgh?

[Rob]

The part where Joran allegedly says - 'She intruded into my private life' - sort rings horribly in my mind since her jeans were off.... what does he say that is? that's not an intrusion?

seems like her private "life" (meaning) "her body" was somehow violated, and not to forget or diminish, he killed her - how much more intrusion can there possibly be?

[imnoangel]

Police keeps the identity of the student a secret.
He lives in Valkenburg, is the only thing the article says.
Peter R. de Vries was on some show last night and he said Joran tried to borrow money from everyone.
Told people his wallet was stolen en he was desperate for money.
Police has a chatsession where Joran says this to a friend, "because if he does not get
his hands on some money soon he can not stay in Peru".

[San]

There is a  Dr. on Nancy Grace and he said it takes blunt force plus twisting to break a neck.  He said anytime he has seen a broken neck it was a car accident or fall.  He said he thinks Joran has broken someone's neck before.

Another Doctor Patricia Saunders said Joran is a stone cold psychopath.

[Lifesong]

Forgive me for saying this if it offends, but I think she went to his room to smoke pot.

Quoting my own post at the risk of being mocked, I just want to clarify...

I am in no way judging this young lady nor do I think it makes her a bad person.  I think it makes her about 21 years old.

Furthermore, it is no more an invitation to, nor a justification for, murder. 

Just because she was in his hotel room does not mean she wanted to nor was obligated to have sex with him.  She had every right to say no without being murdered, whether she'd smoked with him or not.

JMO