Lively Case Discussion #580 2/1 - 2/4/2007

[Sleuth]

OldFart - hats off to you for picking up the phone to call Tim Miller - many thanks!

Angie and Rob - great work last night on this also.

[Nut44x4]

Yes  !!
I'm so glad Kaitlin's family or the police got TES involved

Still praying for a good out come.


I'm sorry for the panic attack last night gang.   ... Now I can get rid of that phone #

ITA with best wishes and hope for a positive outcome...WTF is happening in our world. Seems abduction of our youth and beyond has become an epidemic, worldwide actually...it is almost like a disease that spreads throughout. I am just ill over it all.....    

[IBE]

Still haven't been to bed... waiting for news

What good news about TES... are the Monkeys emailing and/or telephoning Cubee so she will know in case she does not check in here?

Wouldn't want to put pressure on her friendship with the family, but maybe she could be our "Monkey" on the ground there and tells us more about TES. Remember when one of our Monkeys got to meet with and be in a conf. with Mr. Skeeters??

The Internet can work in wonderful ways that will overcome the bad uses some do.

I am going to use Paypal now for the Scared Monkeys and for TES!!! every small bit helps!

Klaas, have misplaced your email. Would like to email you, please.

I just read about Mr. Skeeters. He was always very honest and straight forward with me. Soon his name will be cleared!

Perhaps Cubee is out searching right now also. I sure would be.

When Monkeys roll, they roll!!

Rob, I have personal experience that even when neighborhoods are "not so good", you and I know that the neighbors there ban together and help, except in being witnesses to gangs when they are afraid for thier own survival and rightly so.

Monkeys are on a roll again!!

[dkpen]

I talked hubby in going to pick up lunch for us and bring home. Not sure what he's bringing back. Think it will be Ryan's buffet. LOL


Any news from cubbee yet?  Bless her heart she is probably asleep from lack of sleep last night, I'm sure. That or over at her friends house helping in any way she can.

[klaasend]

IBE -  Here is my email addy:

smklaasend@hotmail.com

Running to the grocery store in a minute though so I may not get back to you right away.

[klaasend]

I talked hubby in going to pick up lunch for us and bring home. Not sure what he's bringing back. Think it will be Ryan's buffet. LOL


Any news from cubbee yet?  Bless her heart she is probably asleep from lack of sleep last night, I'm sure. That or over at her friends house helping in any way she can.

I doubt she's sleeping, she's probably out searching.

[Rob]

Monks- thank you all for the compliments. I really didnt do much. I couldnt get his criminal file for some reason. I see it, but cant unlock it. I have no idea why it is locked.

IBE- This area is particularly bad. I hope that this case is a parent of family member that has the child and is hold the child to keep the child from some type of danger that person may have observed in the home.

It is about 8 degrees outside right now and no one can last long in these conditions without being in a home that is heated. Braddock has alotta boarded up homes and was the original area where most of the steel workers lived at the turn of the 20th century.

Lots of gang activity there and shootings all the time.

[Rob]

Old Fart deserves the credit here. He used his noggin and action followed.

And Angie.. she did alot to.

[mishy]

Phl 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things [are] honest, whatsoever things [are] just, whatsoever things [are] pure, whatsoever things [are] lovely, whatsoever things [are] of good report; if [there be] any virtue, and if [there be] any praise, think on these things.

OK, Last word on my "porn" rant. The above says it far better than I can.

Thank you CBB. I love that verse...I think it speaks volumes!

And thank you to OF and all the monkeys and TES for their quick work to get Kaitlin back home. I could hardly sleep last night for thinking and praying for her and her family...I pray this has a good outcome for all involved.

Also reeling about the child taken from her bed. My daughter's room is on the first floor, and I must admit, since becoming a Monkey and becoming more aware of what goes on out there, I've wanted to put bars on her windows or something! But then I think, what if there was a fire or something and I wanted to get in her room through the window to get her out? I must be the most paranoid mom ever!

BT, I cannot believe that a man would rape and kill his own child and then have the confession thrown out. What is this world coming to? Changes need to be made in the justice system for these innocent victims who can't speak/fight for themselves  

[mishy]

Yes  !!
I'm so glad Kaitlin's family or the police got TES involved

Still praying for a good out come.


I'm sorry for the panic attack last night gang.   ... Now I can get rid of that phone #

You did GREAT, OldFart!!

[mishy]

Monks- thank you all for the compliments. I really didnt do much. I couldnt get his criminal file for some reason. I see it, but cant unlock it. I have no idea why it is locked.

IBE- This area is particularly bad. I hope that this case is a parent of family member that has the child and is hold the child to keep the child from some type of danger that person may have observed in the home.

It is about 8 degrees outside right now and no one can last long in these conditions without being in a home that is heated. Braddock has alotta boarded up homes and was the original area where most of the steel workers lived at the turn of the 20th century.

Lots of gang activity there and shootings all the time.

Rob, I pray this is the case too. Hopefully the child is safe and warm!

[dkpen]

I want to know where Lewis wife disappeared too.

[mishy]

I want to know where Lewis wife disappeared too.

DKpen, has Lewis disappeared too? I wonder what's up with his wife...

where did everybody go?  

[cubbeegirl]

Hi monkeys.... we are just coming in from searching to get warmed up for a bit and then off to search another area that hasn't been searched yet..

I took the TES number to Kaitlin's mom and she called this morning and she was told that they will be here at 8:30 tomorrow morning... not sure where the other time came in, but does not matter... they are on the way and hopefully can help us find our baby.....everyone is very happy that they are on the way, this is a living nightmare....

Thanks to all my monkey friends who have prayed and thanks to Old Fart , the sheriffs office has ok'd for everyone to search today and is trying to keep track of who went into what woods so that no one else comes up missing....

Rob, if you are here the reason for no Amber Alert is KK did not fit the criteria... someone has to see the actual persons in the car before you can put out an amber alert....

I pray that Tim and his crew can find Kaitlin .... I will keep you all informed...

[Artcolley]

I want to know where Lewis wife disappeared too.

Me too. I hope she wasn't harmed by this guy.

[Rob]

I want to know where Lewis wife disappeared too.

is it possible she witnessed something and was 'disappeared' too?

[cubbeegirl]

I want to know where Lewis wife disappeared too.

I have the answer to that one.... she went to the home of her minister , she is devastated to find out about her husbands past, I have learned even more criminal activity that is suspiciously not on his record......
she is also feeling sick with guilt that she brought this into KK's life...

However, I was told that when he came up to the house the night Kaitlin went missing with his face all scratched that she tried to brush the blood off of his face and asked him if he had gotten into a fight.... she denies this, but neighbors saw him and I believe them...

[mishy]

From Amigoe
OM will not prosecute minister  
ORENJESTAD – The Aruban minister Ramon Lee of labour, Culture, and Sport (MEP) will not be indicted for rape, announced the Public Prosecutor (OM) close to noon.  
It appears that the alleged victim had already dropped the charges in a letter dated December 20th.  She did this, because she wants peace and quiet for herself and for her family.  On November 11th, she reported that she was forced to have intercourse with the minister in her home.  She says that dropping the charges doesn’t mean that she denies that it happened; neither will the OM stop the investigations.  The Justice department can still decide to prosecute, unless there is sufficient convincing evidence.  This is not the case here, said the OM.
Lee was interrogates twice as a suspect and admitted that he had intercourse with her, but that it was consensual.

It sounds more like she did this because they threatened her and her family.

I knew this was going to happen from day one.  They are all a bunch of rapists on that island.

Amazing. Just because they got to her doesnt' mean he shouldn't be indicted and asked to step down from his position! That place is a living Hell!

[cubbeegirl]

Klaas, there will probably be coverage tonight on WBRZ .... they were talking with Kaitlins mom when I left there, she is sending out a plea to area businesses...it seems that last night a rumor was going around that her body had been found and alot of the flyers were taken down...

[mishy]

Klaas, there will probably be coverage tonight on WBRZ .... they were talking with Kaitlins mom when I left there, she is sending out a plea to area businesses...it seems that last night a rumor was going around that her body had been found and alot of the flyers were taken down...

OMG! You. are. KIDDING!!!