Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #1 6/5/10 - 6/30/10

[NewfieMonkey]

Just because it's something I hadn't thought of ... stolen from InSession ... thanks InSession   

Kaine is the one who sent her son from the home ... eye for an eye kinda thing

Just thought that was an interesting theory.

[cw618]

Thanks, Wyks!

Brandi, the new one is beautiful, too!  It makes me sad, because Kyron may be seeing all the universe in its glory right now without his glasses.

tears crying

[Tracygirl]

Oops hit reply on the wrong post! Sorry I was talking about the project a few posts back! Klass or a mod can you delete what I said?

Removed

[Tamikosmom]

So are the police alleging that Terri owns a gun? or has a history of using a gun in the commission of a crime?

It's getting deep 

I hope these cops are not singularly focused and in the end wrong.

I know that many believe that the school was too "occupied" with people and parents in for the science fair, but you know children have been abducted from a house when the parents were in another room.

I think I'll wait to see if there are charges before hoping on the bandwagon. I'm a fence sitter. 

I don't think the police are alleging anything but it's said that is part of the restraining order.  So I'm guessing that Kaine is saying that either she has threatened with a gun or has access to a gun and he fears it. 

Could it be that the truth encompassing what happened to Kyron has been revealed or strongly suspected and ... therefore it is assumed that his little sister could be at risk.  There are past instances where a parent does harm to his/her children to get back at the spouse.

Just speculating.

Janet

The father definately has some evidence pointing at Terri (negelct, child endangerment)..The police may just be waiting for her to crack, that's why they aren't naming her s suspect..they did the say thing with the girl in Phily in 2005 (I think)...they wouldn't name the guy that killed her a suspect....it's a police tactic....there's def something up with this restraining order...Terri didn't even get to dispute it...

I hope to GOD this little boy is okay...it's breaking my heart

What evidence?  If it was known that Terri was neglectful and presented a danger to Kyron why did Kaine leave his precious son in her care?  Kaine has to take some responsibility.

Janet

[Tracygirl]

IMO, school projects are assigned so that parents can sit with their children and teach them how to do the project.

I have helped a few youngins in my family, and taught them how to do backgrounds, how to use a nice font, how to blend colors, where to sit the pictures, etc...

I have found that even a 5 year old can learn just about everything, and after they learn something one time, the next time they can do it themselves.

IF the parents do the projects, and don't sit with the child and teach them how it's done, it teaches the kid that they are not capable of doing a good job and their self-esteem really suffers... even if they bring an exceptional project to school.

I think that most teachers expect a certain ushering by the parents.

Guilty as charged but I do expect my son to learn something from each one I help him with. He gets excited to do projects now and double checks that we have everything required by the teacher.

This was the post I meant to reply too! Yikes! Sorry everyone.

[Wyks]

Deenie~ 

Am so sorry for all that you've gone thru!  I can sure relate to a good majority of that.  And frustrating when your own family won't believe you, over the one 'you know you know', whom 'they THINK they know but don't really'.  Sad.    You did the best for your daughter and yourself, the rest can fly a kite if they can't open their eyes long enough to see the truth.  Am glad you made it out safely. 

What you've said about Terri, and about Kaine.  Hmmmm... Thought-provoking for sure!  The thing is, this could exactly be what's going on.  All we know is what we are being spoon-fed by LE and the media.  We don't know what is really happening behind the scenes.  Wish we could sit down for a brief chat with Desiree, who might be able to one day paint a clearer picture of how things really are with Kaine. 

That Terri may be the scapegoat is possible.  It really could be.  It's true that something seems to have happened in her life to have caused drastic differences in such a short time.  And I cannot help but think that her family had to have noticed.  It could very well be that she had had enough back then and wanted out, but that was 'not allowed' by Kaine?  I dunno.  There's something about Kaine which I cannot put my finger on yet.  That's why I said earlier that while the focus may be on Terri at the moment, everything pointing to her........... don't be surprised if an arrest is made and it's not her.  Am hoping beyond hope that IF Kaine had anything to do with this, and Terri is simply the scapegoat, that LE are on top of this, playing along, and are fully prepared to rip the rug out from under him, or whomever may be their 'sekrit' perp. 

But IF it is Terri, then may God help her, cuz she's going down.  IMO.

Why O why do I straddle the fence so often in these cases ... the fence that stands smack between 'LE and the public think it's this one', but I'm over here going but but but.. what if they just want us to THINK that??  and there's either a real perp hiding in plain view right there, or one or more accomplices hiding behind the scapegoat who seems to be fully prepared to take the fall for everyone?????  shades of melissa huckaby.... <shiver me timbers>

[NewfieMonkey]

oh clarifying .. that kind of sounded like I'm stating as fact that Kaine sent the kid packing ... that's not known ... that's the theory ...

[cartfly]

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Brandi-, may I please have your permission to use this pic and your nice artwork for the header on the next thread for Kyron? 

oops.....I already did that this afternoon, only I didn't ask permission 

Well, I made another if you want to use it sometime.

Brandi, that picture you made of Kyron brought tears to my eyes. It truly captures Kyron and everything I bet he loves.  I can't help but feel so sad for this family and everyone that loves Kyron.

[Wyks]

well my youngest says if i were to take my tin foil hat off, might help things.. that there's not a wolf behind every tree.  ??????? pfffffft! on him.   

[Brandi]

Thanks, Wyks!

Brandi, the new one is beautiful, too!  It makes me sad, because Kyron may be seeing all the universe in its glory right now without his glasses.

tears crying

Sorry. Intent was not to make anyone sadder.

It's a sad situation though, no matter where he is right now.

 

[Tracygirl]

So are the police alleging that Terri owns a gun? or has a history of using a gun in the commission of a crime?

It's getting deep 

I hope these cops are not singularly focused and in the end wrong.

I know that many believe that the school was too "occupied" with people and parents in for the science fair, but you know children have been abducted from a house when the parents were in another room.

I think I'll wait to see if there are charges before hoping on the bandwagon. I'm a fence sitter. 

I don't think the police are alleging anything but it's said that is part of the restraining order.  So I'm guessing that Kaine is saying that either she has threatened with a gun or has access to a gun and he fears it. 

Could it be that the truth encompassing what happened to Kyron has been revealed or strongly suspected and ... therefore it is assumed that his little sister could be at risk.  There are past instances where a parent does harm to his/her children to get back at the spouse.

Just speculating.

Janet

The father definately has some evidence pointing at Terri (negelct, child endangerment)..The police may just be waiting for her to crack, that's why they aren't naming her s suspect..they did the say thing with the girl in Phily in 2005 (I think)...they wouldn't name the guy that killed her a suspect....it's a police tactic....there's def something up with this restraining order...Terri didn't even get to dispute it...

I hope to GOD this little boy is okay...it's breaking my heart

What evidence?  If it was known that Terri was neglectful and presented a danger to Kyron why did Kaine leave his precious son in her care?  Kaine has to take some responsibility.

Janet

Yes he does Janet and so does Bio mom, not to kick her right now, god knows she probably has enough regrets, but if it is correct that Terri was abusive and neglectful then why didn't the other adults in his life see this? If she was on drugs, did they not notice it? If she was drinking did they not notice the signs? If she had a gambling problem, did they not notice money missing from accounts? How could she have such a problem lifestyle which caused a child to go missing and not one adult, including a police officer, not notice the signs? I just don't get that.

[seahorse]

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage/2010/06/30/the-levi-page-show

Levi Page show is presently chatting about Kyron's case.

Thank You Seahorse - I am listening

Your Welcome, Deenie,

The show is a little irrating, I think it is the high pitched womens voices. 

[Wyks]

TY for contacting him. I have read that quite a few people find him abrasive, but if it were my child, I would most definately want him on my side doing all he can. And yes, he does seem to care a lot for his dogs, which I find admirable!

I am praying that little Kyron will be found soon and brought safely back to those who love him. Maybe tomorrow we will have some good news! 

You're welcome, NCSunny!  Some do and some don't.  I can relate with him and understand why he appears to be bitter... and abrasive to some.  Doesn't change it for me that he is excellent at what he does.  And yeah, I'm with you!  I'd definitely want his help if ever needed.  I love it too how he takes such good care of his dogs, and told him that.  He truly IS all about finding the missing and helping his dogs in every way to be up to the task of doing so.  Could be why he has the world leading search dog. 
 
Am glad there are so many of us praying and concentrating together on Kyron being found.   Thanks!! 

 

[shy-monkey]

Am I the only one thinking there was already something going really bad with Kaine and the stepmom the night before or the morning of Kyron's disappearance? Or is there a reason why Kaine only worked in the AM on that day?

It's being said that the reason he was only at the bus stop this one time was because he worked full time at Intel (I believe) and didn't get off until after Kyron was already home from school. He just happened to only work in the morning on the day Kyron went missing,

Everyone seems to be okay with that reason, but I find it strange that the *get off work early-lucky day to wait with the wife and daughter* just happened to fall on the day Kyron went missing?
Did Intel close early, send people home, as in not just him etc or did he ask to go home early because he had reason to believe she might do something to the kids.

[Brandi]

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage/2010/06/30/the-levi-page-show

Levi Page show is presently chatting about Kyron's case.

Thank You Seahorse - I am listening

Your Welcome, Deenie,

The show is a little irrating, I think it is the high pitched womens voices. 

You sure that's not Levi's voice?

Sorry, I am being a bad monkey. I don't care for his type of "news" coverage.

Going to the corner now.
 

[cw618]

Thanks, Wyks!

Brandi, the new one is beautiful, too!  It makes me sad, because Kyron may be seeing all the universe in its glory right now without his glasses.

tears crying

Sorry. Intent was not to make anyone sadder.

It's a sad situation though, no matter where he is right now.

 

kk, it is beautiful
 sadly we all know what the end results are over 90% of
the time after a 24hr-72hr time frame when someone that young is missing

[klaasend]

Am I the only one thinking there was already something going really bad with Kaine and the stepmom the night before or the morning of Kyron's disappearance? Or is there a reason why Kaine only worked in the AM on that day?

It's being said that the reason he was only at the bus stop this one time was because he worked full time at Intel (I believe) and didn't get off until after Kyron was already home from school. He just happened to only work in the morning on the day Kyron went missing,

Everyone seems to be okay with that reason, but I find it strange that the *get off work early-lucky day to wait with the wife and daughter* just happened to fall on the day Kyron went missing?
Did Intel close early, send people home, as in not just him etc or did he ask to go home early because he had reason to believe she might do something to the kids.

Welcome ShyMonkey and excellent points.  I don't know the deal with his work hours and Intel.

[cartfly]

EDIT - removed part of post that Tracygirl didn't mean to reply to

LOL my sons make me stand in the door way and only give verbal directions, I am not allowed to touch their projects! Once I "helped" too much and my son came up to me after school, handing me his project, patted me on the shoulder and said, "good job mom you got an A" lol that was the last time I allowed my perfectionism to get in the way.

That is so funny Tracygirl!!!!! I have to admit I am a bit of a perfectionist also.....
OT: (Our last project was on "ferrofluid" (it is a magnetic fluid), look it up on youtube to see it in action; it is amazing! We even found a place to buy it from and so he was able to demonstrate it. His project was the talk of the school and the best compliment was from his teacher who told me it is such a wonderful thing when one of my students teaches me something. She was like a kid herself with the ferro fluid! It is a great science project idea.

[Wyks]

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage/2010/06/30/the-levi-page-show

Levi Page show is presently chatting about Kyron's case.

Thank You Seahorse - I am listening

Your Welcome, Deenie,

The show is a little irrating, I think it is the high pitched womens voices. 

You sure that's not Levi's voice?

Sorry, I am being a bad monkey. I don't care for his type of "news" coverage.

Going to the corner now.
 

   naughty monkey!  lol

but am joining you in that corner, cuz I don't like it either.   

[no rose colored glasses]

Am I the only one thinking there was already something going really bad with Kaine and the stepmom the night before or the morning of Kyron's disappearance? Or is there a reason why Kaine only worked in the AM on that day?

It's being said that the reason he was only at the bus stop this one time was because he worked full time at Intel (I believe) and didn't get off until after Kyron was already home from school. He just happened to only work in the morning on the day Kyron went missing,

Everyone seems to be okay with that reason, but I find it strange that the *get off work early-lucky day to wait with the wife and daughter* just happened to fall on the day Kyron went missing?
Did Intel close early, send people home, as in not just him etc or did he ask to go home early because he had reason to believe she might do something to the kids.

WELCOME  I believe I've read that at times Kaine worked from the home. Those are very good points you brought up.