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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR
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June 11, 2010, 02:33:57 PM »
Quote from: cookie on June 11, 2010, 02:27:51 PM
Quote from: canadianmonkey on June 11, 2010, 02:24:57 PM
Quote from: Tracygirl on June 11, 2010, 02:18:50 PM
Quote from: Starlit on June 10, 2010, 08:11:19 PM
I'm not speculating the step-mom but one would think if there is a talent show she would want to be there to watch and not go home to play on facebook IMO
The dad and the bio mom were not at the school to watch as him in the show either.
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raceyrin says:
June 11, 2010 at 8:54 am
Blink,
were the parents invited to the talent show ?
To my knowledge, they were not, it was for school only.
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Parents weren't invited.
how do you know this? thanks
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thanks Canadian...I had not seen that before...
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sorry that quote got in the wrong place...
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Blink,
were the parents invited to the talent show ?
To my knowledge, they were not, it was for school only.
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Quote from: canadianmonkey on June 11, 2010, 02:24:13 PM
Quote from: Tracygirl on June 11, 2010, 02:16:18 PM
Does anyone know if the science fair was announced in the local newspaper or perhaps on an outside banner or sign? I just keep thinking, what a perfect time for a planned kidnapping. So many people wandering around, but if it was just a visitor I would assume that person would have to have a kid with them or he/she would stand out, but would they? So doesn't it make sense if he was taken from the school it would have to be either a person that worked at the school or a parent or someone that at least looked like they could be a parent. We are told another student saw his mom leave with out him, so the step mom doesn't seem likely and what on earth would be her motive? There is no history of CPS, is there? I don't think so. From all accounts she has helped raise this boy since he was a baby and he called her mom.
So in thinking about this and playing the "what if" game, Doesn't usually a pedo lure a child by asking for help? I wonder if an adult asked him for help carrying something to or out of the car? He followed this person, and was put in the trunk. If most people were still inside the school it seems like this could have happened. OR he could have gone to the bathroom before school started as well. Was there someone in there waiting for a child to come in? What an easy way and the perfect day to gain entry into the school without raising any eyebrows.
So I suppose what I am getting at is a person could have constructed a plan very easily to kidnap a child that day.
It wasn't listed on the school's agenda. In my opinion it would have to be a students parent or someone connected to the school that would know what activities were happening.
Tracygirl...have you read Blink's article. It has some very interesting things in it. Like Kyron's parents are being escorted by police 24/7.
Yea I saw that it was not on the calendar however, was it posted in a local newspaper or even in a schools news letter?
I did read Blinks article, always do! I love Blink! I didn't catch the parents are being escorted 24/7...hmmm why are they doing that? As if to protect them? Could this be a ransom kidnapping? Is that the thought?
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What does the dad do for a living? What position does he hold? Or the bio mom?
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June 11, 2010, 02:49:34 PM »
Live presser supposed to be on ch6 in about 20 minutes or so, local and online. Trying to find exact link. This is the main news site:
http://www.koinlocal6.com
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Quote from: Wyks on June 11, 2010, 02:49:34 PM
Live presser supposed to be on ch6 in about 20 minutes or so, local and online. Trying to find exact link. This is the main news site:
http://www.koinlocal6.com
Thanks Wyk
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Quote from: Itaryl Moosee on June 11, 2010, 11:30:05 AM
She goes by the name Terri Moulton Horman.
Her mother and father are Larry and Carol Moulton and they live in Roseburg, both are ex-teachers from Douglas County.
Some search engines include her as Terri and Terri Lynn Ecker and residing with Kaine Horman. There is a Terri Lynn Ecker adoption record online. Birthdate in March 1970, adoption in November 1970, Birthplace Grassvalley, Ca.
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Kyron's father, Kaine Horman, works at Intel's main administrative facility in Oregon, the Jones Farm campus in Hillsboro, the company said.
Kyron's biological mother, Desiree Horman, and his father were officially divorced in February 2003, according to Washington County Circuit Court records.
Carol Moulton said that Kaine, 36, and Terri, 40, have been together for seven or eight years and that they have been married for four or five years. The couple have an 18-month-old girl.
"Terri has raised Kyron," her mother said. "She's been with him since he was an infant. She's as much of a mom as the mom is because the parents had separated about the time that Kyron was born.""
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR
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Quote from: canadianmonkey on June 11, 2010, 02:59:58 PM
Quote from: Itaryl Moosee on June 11, 2010, 11:30:05 AM
She goes by the name Terri Moulton Horman.
Her mother and father are Larry and Carol Moulton and they live in Roseburg, both are ex-teachers from Douglas County.
Some search engines include her as Terri and Terri Lynn Ecker and residing with Kaine Horman. There is a Terri Lynn Ecker adoption record online. Birthdate in March 1970, adoption in November 1970, Birthplace Grassvalley, Ca.
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Kyron's father, Kaine Horman, works at Intel's main administrative facility in Oregon, the Jones Farm campus in Hillsboro, the company said.
Kyron's biological mother, Desiree Horman, and his father were officially divorced in February 2003, according to Washington County Circuit Court records.
Carol Moulton said that Kaine, 36, and Terri, 40, have been together for seven or eight years and that they have been married for four or five years. The couple have an 18-month-old girl.
"Terri has raised Kyron," her mother said. "She's been with him since he was an infant. She's as much of a mom as the mom is because the parents had separated about the time that Kyron was born.""[/i]
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html
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Thanks, what does that mean though. What does he do there? I am going to find out what this place is.
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR
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interesting link I found forensic astrology (if you beleive in this sort of thing)
Forensic Astrology
TYPE OF EVENT: Missing / Endangered
What happened to Kyron Horman?
DATE: Friday: June 4, 2010
TIME OF EVENT: 8:45 AM PDT
(approximate time step-mom last seen Kyron)
TIME ZONE: (+7:00)
LOCATION OF EVENT: North Portland, OREGON USA
CHART ASCENDANT: 27 CANCER 12'
MOON: 10 PISCES 58'
MIDHEAVEN: 07 ARIES 06'
Kyron Horman's stepmother said, she last seen her stepson at 8:45 AM, Friday, June 4, walking toward a south door entrance to his elementary school, other reports indicate the stepmother's last sighting took place inside the school as he walked down the hallway to class.
27 Cancer, a "crisis" degree rises upon the ascendant, an indication that this could only end in tears. Cancer is of the water triplicity (emotions, imagination) and of the cardinal quality (fast moving, swift, aggressive) making it a sign prone to sudden and wild mood swings.
Also rising is the fixed star PROCYON, which is found in the "neck" of Alpha Canis Minor, or the "little dog." Having a Mars/Mercury nature the influence of this star amplifies the more kneejerk emotional tendencies common to Cancer. Procyon is said to make people hasty, jealous, pig-headed, hot tempered, and is known for pushing primal impulses and ill-advised thoughts into action. So far things don't look good for the little guy.
Cancer is the sign having special reference to home, family, the womb, close knit ties, and those we share an umbilical link. The Moon rules Cancer and therefore rules Kyron. Mercury the natural ruler of school children is co-ruler.
Moon Pisces is emotionally fragile and gullible. Moon Pisces in combination to the Cancer ascendant says, behind Kyron's bright smile, a muted sadness lurks.
Moon last touched "Chiron" - the irony here is obvious. The last conjunction of the Moon to Chiron gives me the impression of the cry for help that was ignored or left unheard. The Moon-Chiron conjunction makes me wonder if Kyron was showing signs of abuse; unexplained bruises, cuts, torn clothing... was he complaining of feeling sick, having nightmares, looking depressed. There are indicators here that leave me to wonder if he was communicating / showing signs of abuse only to be dismissed as a whiny, lying hypochondriac hurting himself. One wonders to who was Kyron a little pain in the neck?
The Moon shares the ninth house with Jupiter and Uranus. Jupiter is upon the "last straw" degree 29 Pisces, a sign having special reference of being at the end of ones' rope but also escapism through addiction and alcoholism, but also a variety of mental illnesses such as bi-polar disorder, post traumatic stress disorder, muchausen syndrome, and postpartum depression to name a few.
Jupiter 29 Pisces conjoined to fixed star Scheat is often predictive of suicidal tendencies. The Moon (Kyron) is in the company of a very unstable individual.
Uranus is on the ARIES POINT. Uranus has a mind blowing "bombshell" effect. The presence of Uranus upon the ARIES POINT near the "public" midheaven gives me the sinking feeling we may have a crime that could get spectacular media coverage because of its shocking nature or twisted outcome. Aries is on the midheaven ruled by Mars sextile Hades opposite Neptune gives me the impression the authorities may need to consider the involvement of a juvenile, young offender. If this is the case, Mars Leo would indicate a known trouble maker bully. A tyrant, someone who is immature emotionally, exhibits threatening behavior openly, and does not like being told what to do, walks the streets a soldier, a brute, fights everyone, yet they may have no criminal history, I suspect they have not paid a serious price for their petty crimes or to society - not yet!
Lurking in the twelfth house (of silent suffering) is Hades (mental torment) in Gemini, biblically referred to Cain and Abel, siblings. Mars is coming up on the Ascendant from the second house telling me that Kyron most likely knows the assailant. Moon Pisces waning square to the Sun Gemini eleventh house of friends, classmates and peer groups confirms not only the possibility of a young offender but also someone slightly older that Kyron the "little dog" may have looked up to, admired, or feared as a BIG DOG personality.
The Sun Gemini eleventh house is a strong suspect in this case - Kyron's artwork of the smiling yet menacing two-faced Sun confirms this instinct. Sometimes we have less to fear from strangers. I don't believe Kyron is with or was taken by complete stranger.
As much as it pains me to say this, the Cancer Ascendant in addition to Mercury in Taurus indicates Kyron's location was (could still be) heavily fortified, moon (grayish) / eggshell colored, moist, dark, cold, sound proof, i.e. a "womb like" structure / enclosing... a basement or underground bunker possibly, but I think the trunks of cars figure in and should also be searched thoroughly.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=100834818&blogId=535513526
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Presser on now:
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=3969&navCatId=4
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http://www.intel.com/community/oregon/campus/jones_farm.htm
Link to dads work. I would love to know what he does there. Or what his mom does for a living.
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Quote from: Wyks on June 11, 2010, 03:09:48 PM
Presser on now:
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=3969&navCatId=4
Family members to speak at above link.
(if you can get it to come in, which I'm having a hard time doing. Tho that's the direct link the news channel says)
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Quote from: Wyks on June 11, 2010, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: Wyks on June 11, 2010, 03:09:48 PM
Presser on now:
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=3969&navCatId=4
Family members to speak at above link.
(if you can get it to come in, which I'm having a hard time doing. Tho that's the direct link the news channel says)
I lost my connection, did they speak?
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Quote from: Tracygirl on June 11, 2010, 03:30:49 PM
Quote from: Wyks on June 11, 2010, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: Wyks on June 11, 2010, 03:09:48 PM
Presser on now:
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=3969&navCatId=4
Family members to speak at above link.
(if you can get it to come in, which I'm having a hard time doing. Tho that's the direct link the news channel says)
I lost my connection, did they speak?
I couldn't get more than 2 or 3 words at a time, then it went poof. Am just gonna wait til it's over, then watch the video. Hopefully.
It's supposed to be the family speaking, and showing clothes similiar to what he was wearing.
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I was watching other clips while on the site and in this clip
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoid=16760@koin.web.entriq.net
They mention the gym that both Kayne Horman and Terri worked out at. The reporter said that people have been dropping of donation items for the family and the searchers there all week....maybe when Terri wrote on her facebook she was "going to the gym tomorrow" she was going to pick up donations or something.....I just thought that was an eye opener to how often we jump to conclusions about people based on statements or messages, when there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation. Now I don't know for sure what she was doing at the gym...but this is a possible reason.
I'm anxious to hear the family's statement, but I just hope that the focus stays on FINDING KYRON and the media doesn't decide that dissecting every word and expression his family makes is a better use of their air time than keeping Kyron's story out there.
BTW-it's not 1:00 in portland yet...and that is what time the family is making their statement.
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Quote from: pamomma on June 11, 2010, 03:47:23 PM
I was watching other clips while on the site and in this clip
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoid=16760@koin.web.entriq.net
They mention the gym that both Kayne Horman and Terri worked out at. The reporter said that people have been dropping of donation items for the family and the searchers there all week....maybe when Terri wrote on her facebook she was "going to the gym tomorrow" she was going to pick up donations or something.....I just thought that was an eye opener to how often we jump to conclusions about people based on statements or messages, when there may be a perfectly reasonable explanation. Now I don't know for sure what she was doing at the gym...but this is a possible reason.
I'm anxious to hear the family's statement, but I just hope that the focus stays on FINDING KYRON and the media doesn't decide that dissecting every word and expression his family makes is a better use of their air time than keeping Kyron's story out there.
BTW-it's not 1:00 in portland yet...and that is what time the family is making their statement.
Yep, totally agree.
BTW, thanks for posting the family will be giving statements at 1:00. I too hope everyone can give the family a break and not judge ever word or gesture. After all, we don't have an instruction manual for the families on what to do, what to say, how to say it, what to wear, how much to cry or not cry...
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http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=3969&navCatId=4
Says family statement, I haven't gotten anything yet.
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Quote from: Tracygirl on June 11, 2010, 03:57:40 PM
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=3969&navCatId=4
Says family statement, I haven't gotten anything yet.
I am having problems keeping the live stream I think it is about to start though
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Quote from: Tracygirl on June 11, 2010, 04:02:40 PM
Quote from: Tracygirl on June 11, 2010, 03:57:40 PM
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=3969&navCatId=4
Says family statement, I haven't gotten anything yet.
I am having problems keeping the live stream I think it is about to start though
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===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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