Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #1 6/5/10 - 6/30/10

[klaasend]

NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/13/kyron-horman-missing-day-9-portland-search-update/

KYRON HORMAN MISSING: Day 9 Portland Search Update

[Peace]

FWIW, I found this poster on Portland's Topic about Kyron. Looking at his profile, he concerns me. Yes, a troll, but the music he favors, a group named Rammstein has songs about pedophilia, incestuous pedophilia, necophilia,rape, and cannibalism. He brags about his Uzi.
http://www.topix.com/member/profile/richard_

I am amazed such a sick music group could have such a large following as well as win an MTV award. Boggles my mind anyway.
I just wonder why he chose Kyron's board to be such a troll on.

Wyks,  I thank you for what you do especially considering you are 'in the know' of such cults. I have not found anything linking Kyron's case. I believe that area still has cult activity though.
In that LE called in the FBI immediately, the local LE is a great representation of the best possible reaction in an abduction such as this and I greatly applaud their efforts.

[Wyks]

Cartfly
I believe one issue could be bandwidth. They are trying to figure out the server probs, and hopefully it's all temporary.  I miss our emoticons too. Other large sites across the net (not just forums) are also having some server difficulty.   


Jess
Thank you for all your hard work on behalf of Justice for Nevaeh.  You are such a blessing to so many!  I always look forward to your posts. 

[Itaryl Moosee]

About the police requesting video surveillance tapes...

I've been thinking, could they be corroborating someone's alibi?

LE could check what the person did on June 3rd, the route they took home or the places they went... and then check on June 4th.

If the person took a way-off route to go home or if they lied about where they went after school the morning of June 4th,  they could be setting themselves for further investigation.

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About the search near Sauvie Island, I heard a RUMOR that a footprint had been found yesterday. I repeat, a rumor.

IF that is true, it had to be pretty clear to be identified as his, because when the clothing was described yesterday the shoes were described as WELL WORN Sketchers.

[Wyks]

TG,

Thank you!    and <hugs> back!

This case is so very sad, and the possibilities are endless. 

Blink did refer in her comment section to someone working at the school who has been absent for many days following last Friday. (paraphrased). The link to that page is upthread, for anyone wanting to reread. 

I have the same questions as you do, TG.  I just do not know why, if they realize the absence, that LE hasn't moved in and brought an end to this case.  Evidently they are waiting... waiting... wish I knew why. 

But it seems that this man who has been missing works at the school, but isn't part of staff, is employed elsewhere. Maintenance man, landscaper, kitchen crew, office/class aide, playground monitor?  Trying to brainstorm here.   

I cannot remember the name of the area with the horses, sorry.  Do remember reading about it tho.  I gotta go look it up now, cuz it's gonna bug me otherwise.  lol  Will let you know if I find any info. 

[Wyks]

Cartfly,

Thank you!   

First of all, I totally agree with you on how beautiful this area is.  All up and down the western coast, simply gorgeous.  Which is a big draw for many folks.  The rural areas and the areas near the ocean and rivers especially beautiful. 

Which is one reason it saddens my heart that evil abounds in these areas.  It can be so deceiving to many, who are drawn by the beauty, yet unaware of the dangers that may also be lurking.  Just as anywhere else.  My hope is that folks aren't blinded by the beauty, but keep their eyes open and alert, while they also enjoy the majestic scenery.   

As other monkeys have said, the possibilities are endless in this case.  You've mentioned porn/meth, yes those are some possibilities.  Especially in a remote area.  The sad sad thing is that all of these possibilities could happen anywhere, across the states and beyond.  It's not just isolated to this area. 

The wierdness, for me, is because of what I know to be true about this particular area.... because I lived thru it and survived.  Many did not.   

I won't go into elaborate detail here, I don't want to derail the thread, more than I already might have.  I just want this to be included as another possibility. 

Another monkey mentioned upthread a possibility that may go hand in hand with mine.  Bohemian Grove.  You might want to google that.  It's the occult playground of the rich and powerful.  Not in the Portland area tho, it's located in Monte Rio, CA... which is some 11 hours away.  It's real, it's surrounded by secrecy.  Anyone realize that every single one of our Presidents (incl Obama) "camp" there?  Along with other 'elite' folks?  Google is our friend, at times. 

So... what the heck am I talking about?  In a word..... the satanic cult. Ok, that was three words.  Folks turn a blind eye to this for many many reasons.  One being that they just don't want to think for one minute that such evil does exist in our world, that human beings can be capable of such evil.  I got news for those folks.  It does indeed exist.  I was born into a transgenerational cult, right in that area.  How do I know it still exists?  Because I have bio family members still living there.  Another reason folks turn a blind eye to this is because secrecy is one of the most important elements.  Evidence is hard to come by.  And evidence is what LE needs in order to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.  The cult are pros at destroying evidence, and I won't even go into how they do that. 

So what does this have to do with Kyron going missing?  Not sure that it does.  It's a possibility tho.  One of the cults big things to do is four times a year to kidnap someone for their activities.  Some folks poo-poo that, saying what?  how?  oh heck, we'd know cuz folks would be going missing without a trace everywhere.  Um... pssst... folks ARE going missing everywhere, without a trace. 

For folks who don't believe this can happen, that's ok.  With great caution and care for your senses, you can read more about this online.  Check out the four times in a year the words 'kidnap and hold' appear a week prior to large rituals.  For those in therapy at the moment, I highly suggest you do not click on this link without your therapist's knowledge ahead of time.  Just saying, protect your senses!  http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/satanic_calendar.htm

Hopefully, the good news for Kyron is that the timing is off with his disappearance, for it to be the cult holding him for the next big ritual, which is in July.  The one in June doesn't include kidnapping. 

As I said, I don't know for sure what happened to Kyron.  Red flags go down for me, just as others who follow these cases.  But when I get red flags AND the creepy crawlies up the back of my neck, then I sit up and pay closer attention.  And the more info we get about this case, the more creepy crawlies I get.  Just three of these are:

~ Kyron seems to have simply vanished, poof.  That doesn't typically happen in a heavily populated location without a very careful plan ahead of time, by someone very experienced.  IMO. 

~ The dad and stepmom have been under 24/7 escort. Who is the escort, and why?  For their protection?  If so, against what?  While at the same time, the community at large isn't in danger?  IMO they and LE know exactly who/what they are up against.  If this were the average, run-of-the-mill RSO (if there is such a thing), would they need a constant escort?  Ermm no. 
 
~ When the principal finally spoke with the public, he mentioned that this is a "criminal investigation". He was then immediately whisked out of there, the presser abruptly ended.  LE is doing all they can NOT to publically call this investigation 'criminal'.  Why not?

Cartfly, if you or anyone else wants further info etc, you can contact me at Myst_Wyks@yahoo.com .  I won't be silenced on this subject.  Yet neither do I want to derail this thread further, when it 'might' just be one of the many possibilities in this case.  Knowledge is power.

My heart goes out to Kyron and those who love him. 

[Tracygirl]

Wykes you have nanners

[Wyks]

FWIW, I found this poster on Portland's Topic about Kyron. Looking at his profile, he concerns me. Yes, a troll, but the music he favors, a group named Rammstein has songs about pedophilia, incestuous pedophilia, necophilia,rape, and cannibalism. He brags about his Uzi.
http://www.topix.com/member/profile/richard_

I am amazed such a sick music group could have such a large following as well as win an MTV award. Boggles my mind anyway.
I just wonder why he chose Kyron's board to be such a troll on.

Wyks,  I thank you for what you do especially considering you are 'in the know' of such cults. I have not found anything linking Kyron's case. I believe that area still has cult activity though.
In that LE called in the FBI immediately, the local LE is a great representation of the best possible reaction in an abduction such as this and I greatly applaud their efforts.

Very very odd about that poster at that site.  Odder yet that a person with such 'interests' would be posting on Kyron's board.  I totally agree with you Peace.  Good catch there! 

And you're welcome.  I do what I can, when possible, because victims have been silenced for so long.  Because survivors need to step up with the truth, which can help the general public finally be able to understand and accept that this truly happens.  It's not a myth.  Trust me, I'm the first to wish it was.  Sigh.  If we survivors who know what the truth is, don't step out, then who will?  Remember... incest, sexual abuse, domestic abuse, etc.. all of these forms of abuse was very hush hush, taboo, folks didn't talk about it... and not too long ago.  It wasn't until survivors started coming forward and saying yes it DOES too happen!  It happened to me... That's when folks everywhere began to believe, albeit not wanting to think about it being a possibility with humanity.  My fav thing to do continues to be .. being a speaker in a church.  Cuz it does happen even with a member of a church.  Even so-called 'ritual abuse', which can take many forms.  Doesn't have to be in an organized cult. Doesn't even have to be satanic.  "Religious" rituals can take place.  Abuse is abuse is abuse.  And it can happen everywhere and anywhere, from the lowest form of humanity to the very high elite.  It can even happen next door. 

Again, I've carefully said many times that I don't know for sure what happened to/with Kyron.  And I'm not suggesting there are for sure signs that for sure point to a for sure someone, in his case.  Am just saying that it's one of the many possibilities.  The red flags are there for me.  I have creepy crawlies up the back of my neck.  Which I only get when there's a possibility of such as this.  With all the red flags in the HaLeigh case, I don't get the creepy crawlies.  Not in Caylee's case either.  Not in several cases that I follow closely.  But there are some cases, and I do think we need to keep an open mind to every possibility, until we know for sure what is what in a case. 

I agree with you regarding LE in this case, and have said in another post that LE in this case seems to be doing all they can for Kyron.  We still don't know if this is an 'abduction' or not.  They seem to be carefully calling this a 'missing person' case.  Last I heard anyway.  I have high hopes for the local LE, because of what we can see they have done, continue to do. And am grateful for their response/reactions so far.  As is usual in most cases, they seem to be holding things to the vest, and am not surprised by that.  Am waiting along with everyone else to hear what info/facts they are able to release. 

 

[Wyks]

Ok TG, thanks! 

[Tracygirl]

About the police requesting video surveillance tapes...

I've been thinking, could they be corroborating someone's alibi?

LE could check what the person did on June 3rd, the route they took home or the places they went... and then check on June 4th.

If the person took a way-off route to go home or if they lied about where they went after school the morning of June 4th,  they could be setting themselves for further investigation.

-------

About the search near Sauvie Island, I heard a RUMOR that a footprint had been found yesterday. I repeat, a rumor.

IF that is true, it had to be pretty clear to be identified as his, because when the clothing was described yesterday the shoes were described as WELL WORN Sketchers.

Anyone saying where the search was? Someone on another site said a pumkin patch, so I am assuming it could be this one?
http://www.thepumpkinpatch.com/  Seems to be a popular spot? Also, I am curious to know if it was near the elementary school on Sauvie Island. Any clue?

[Itaryl Moosee]

No idea where exactly. IF true, we will hear about that soon.

I was reading about the press conference, and it looks like it only lasted about 3 minutes and this is what was discussed:

1. There is now a $25,000 reward

2. Overall searches will be scaled down to only those pertaining to leads.

3. The case is now a criminal investigation.

...

[Itaryl Moosee]

Forgot linking:

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=127576029009015000


http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Kyron-Horman-search-becomes-criminal/Dz4uMChK60KCWjy3W5FG4Q.cspx


http://www.katu.com/news/local/96253939.html

[MuffyBee]

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Media/kyron-horman-search-now-criminal-investigation/story?id=10903721
Search for Missing Boy Kyron Horman Now a Criminal Investigation
June 13, 2010

Police leading the search for a 7-year-old Oregon boy who disappeared from his school  10 days ago announced today that their effort is now focused on a criminal investigation.

Hundreds of investigators from across Oregon , as well as the FBI and National Guard, had joined the search for Kyron Horman, the second-grader who was last seen shortly after a science fair at his suburban Portland elementary school on June 4.

An official from the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office said today that the search, the largest ever in Oregon, will be scaled back as the direction of the investigation shifts.
Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton said the change the effort to find the boy would not be diminished.

"It is not going to stop, and I am not going to cease in dedicating resources to locating Kyron," he said.

Kyron was last seen by his stepmother, walking toward his Skyline Elementary School classroom after he had proudly displayed his science fair project on tree frogs.

He was last seen wearing a "CSI" T-shirt and black cargo pants.
The school is set on the edge of a deep woods, and initially the search had been focused on a two-mile radius, but was expanded Saturday when the team of investigators was expanded to 300, Sgt. Diana Olsen, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office search and rescue coordinator, said Saturday.
Police have said little about what they have learned in the days of desperate searching for Kyron and today was no different, though Olsen said search teams feel they are making progress. "We know where he's not," she said. "That means we're getting closer to where he is."

Also on Saturday, one day after Kyron's family issued its first public statement, the family responded to questions about the little boy's personality today, through Multnomah County Sheriff's Captain Mike Shults, the liaison between Kyron's family and law enforcement.

Red is his favorite color and he wants to be a police investigator when he grows up, the family said.
He has a cat, Bootsie, who follows him around his property and meets him at the bus. He likes art, frogs and Hot Wheels, has a belly laugh and has lots of friends, the family said.

On Friday, Kyron's family thanked the hundreds of people who have searched for the boy and sent a message of hope directly to him.
We want to say how much we appreciate the outpouring of love and support as we wait for you," said the boy's stepfather, Tony Young. "Until you come home we are not a family."

"Please, Kyron," Young said, hoping to speak directly to the missing second-grader, "keep up the hope. We believe in you."

On Thursday, a National Guard helicopter and searchers on horses joined about 125 volunteers searching through rain-soaked brush and steep terrain around the Skyline Elementary School in Portland.

The boy's father appealed to the community for help in finding the boy.

"We as family know how difficult and stressful this is, but memories and statements can help find Kyron," Kaine Horman said at a news conference.

"Please help us bring Kyron home," he said.
Local, state and federal authorities have combed the area near the school. By the beginning of the week, more than two-thirds of the school's students, about 300 children in grades K-8, volunteered to be interviewed by police.
The strain of the search was evident on the faces of Kyron's parents and stepparents, all of whom attended today's press conference wearing matching "Missing" T-shirts with pictures of Kyron's face on them.

"One little boy's smile can impact a community," Kyron's stepfather said.
 Police on Wednesday said they had received more than 1,200 tips, mostly from Oregon and Washington state.

"We are looking for a living Kyron Horman," said Multnomah County Sheriff's Capt. Jason Gates at the time.
Gina Zimmerman, president of the school PTA, told the Portland Oregonian this week that her 8-year-old daughter Madi has been a classmate of Kyron's for three years.

"He's not the type of child who would just go out of school and go searching or wandering around," Zimmerman said. "He's just a timid, sweet boy.

"Everybody's just worried and in shock that this could happen in our little school where everybody knows everybody," she said.
"We will keep a contingent of local search and rescue crews on call to respond to any tip or investigative [any] lead that needs to be checked out," Capt. Monte Reiser said today at a news conference. "All along we have said that we are looking at a full spectrum of possibilities as to what happened to Kyron.

"With the search and rescue mission completed at this time, we are moving operations toward the criminal investigative end of the spectrum," he said. "While we are still keeping all options open, it's a natural progression to move the overall focus to a criminal case."

[JessStar]

Tracygirl, despite our occasional differences in opinion, we always keep the focus where it needs to be- on the children. I have a great great great deal of respect for you because of that. It's healthy to be able to debate issues with people that don't take it personally and, even more, doesn't resort to personal attacks. I feel I got to "know" you pretty well when Sandra's ordeal was hot and heavy. You're a great person.

In this case, I think you are right on. I have a hard time thinking a vagrant just walked into this school and took this little boy. Yes stranger things have happened. And there are pedophiles out there that become so desperate to satisfy their sick urges that they will take the chance. But for some reason that doesn't seem likely here. This is apparently a small school on a small area where everyone knows everyone. I think this little boy went willingly with someone he knew. And I really don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that someone in that school helped.

[JessStar]

Thanks wykes, tg, cookie, cartfly, eveyone for their kind thoughts and comments. You know, there comes a
point in everyone's life when they throw their hands up in the air and scream "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!" I've reached that point. No, I'm well beyond that point.  All of these cases would go away if adults would just accept their
obligations to Protect our children. This is everyone's responsibility. We can't be afraid to intervene on behalf of a child that is being mistreated.  I've made it my mission. You'll be hearing much more
about Justice for Nevaeh. The group isn't just about Nevaeh. It's about the children. 

[klaasend]

NEW BLINK POST:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/13/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-would-opening-boy-scout-perv-files-help-find-him/

Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Would Opening Boy Scout Perv Files Help Find Him?

[klaasend]

Don't miss Dana Pretzer tonight.  I believe BLINK will be on tonight as well to discuss this case!

[cartfly]

Cartfly,

Thank you!   

First of all, I totally agree with you on how beautiful this area is.  All up and down the western coast, simply gorgeous.  Which is a big draw for many folks.  The rural areas and the areas near the ocean and rivers especially beautiful. 

Which is one reason it saddens my heart that evil abounds in these areas.  It can be so deceiving to many, who are drawn by the beauty, yet unaware of the dangers that may also be lurking.  Just as anywhere else.  My hope is that folks aren't blinded by the beauty, but keep their eyes open and alert, while they also enjoy the majestic scenery.   

As other monkeys have said, the possibilities are endless in this case.  You've mentioned porn/meth, yes those are some possibilities.  Especially in a remote area.  The sad sad thing is that all of these possibilities could happen anywhere, across the states and beyond.  It's not just isolated to this area. 

The wierdness, for me, is because of what I know to be true about this particular area.... because I lived thru it and survived.  Many did not.   

I won't go into elaborate detail here, I don't want to derail the thread, more than I already might have.  I just want this to be included as another possibility. 

Another monkey mentioned upthread a possibility that may go hand in hand with mine.  Bohemian Grove.  You might want to google that.  It's the occult playground of the rich and powerful.  Not in the Portland area tho, it's located in Monte Rio, CA... which is some 11 hours away.  It's real, it's surrounded by secrecy.  Anyone realize that every single one of our Presidents (incl Obama) "camp" there?  Along with other 'elite' folks?  Google is our friend, at times. 

So... what the heck am I talking about?  In a word..... the satanic cult. Ok, that was three words.  Folks turn a blind eye to this for many many reasons.  One being that they just don't want to think for one minute that such evil does exist in our world, that human beings can be capable of such evil.  I got news for those folks.  It does indeed exist.  I was born into a transgenerational cult, right in that area.  How do I know it still exists?  Because I have bio family members still living there.  Another reason folks turn a blind eye to this is because secrecy is one of the most important elements.  Evidence is hard to come by.  And evidence is what LE needs in order to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.  The cult are pros at destroying evidence, and I won't even go into how they do that. 

So what does this have to do with Kyron going missing?  Not sure that it does.  It's a possibility tho.  One of the cults big things to do is four times a year to kidnap someone for their activities.  Some folks poo-poo that, saying what?  how?  oh heck, we'd know cuz folks would be going missing without a trace everywhere.  Um... pssst... folks ARE going missing everywhere, without a trace. 

For folks who don't believe this can happen, that's ok.  With great caution and care for your senses, you can read more about this online.  Check out the four times in a year the words 'kidnap and hold' appear a week prior to large rituals.  For those in therapy at the moment, I highly suggest you do not click on this link without your therapist's knowledge ahead of time.  Just saying, protect your senses!  http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/satanic_calendar.htm

Hopefully, the good news for Kyron is that the timing is off with his disappearance, for it to be the cult holding him for the next big ritual, which is in July.  The one in June doesn't include kidnapping. 

As I said, I don't know for sure what happened to Kyron.  Red flags go down for me, just as others who follow these cases.  But when I get red flags AND the creepy crawlies up the back of my neck, then I sit up and pay closer attention.  And the more info we get about this case, the more creepy crawlies I get.  Just three of these are:

~ Kyron seems to have simply vanished, poof.  That doesn't typically happen in a heavily populated location without a very careful plan ahead of time, by someone very experienced.  IMO. 

~ The dad and stepmom have been under 24/7 escort. Who is the escort, and why?  For their protection?  If so, against what?  While at the same time, the community at large isn't in danger?  IMO they and LE know exactly who/what they are up against.  If this were the average, run-of-the-mill RSO (if there is such a thing), would they need a constant escort?  Ermm no. 
 
~ When the principal finally spoke with the public, he mentioned that this is a "criminal investigation". He was then immediately whisked out of there, the presser abruptly ended.  LE is doing all they can NOT to publically call this investigation 'criminal'.  Why not?

Cartfly, if you or anyone else wants further info etc, you can contact me at Myst_Wyks@yahoo.com .  I won't be silenced on this subject.  Yet neither do I want to derail this thread further, when it 'might' just be one of the many possibilities in this case.  Knowledge is power.

My heart goes out to Kyron and those who love him. 

Hi Wyks!!,

Thank you so much for the insight and giving me more info on the cult scene. I am so intrigued and scared what I may learn at the same time. I love your passion and drive to not be silenced about this. Hugs>>> to you! I know it must take a lot out of you to discuss these issues. They say God has a plan for each of us, maybe this is his plan for you, to be that advocate for those children.

[cartfly]

I remember reading (I will have to figure out where I saw this) that Kyron's StepDad is a LE officer. I think it was said that he was involved in prosecuting several "gang" related crimes/mexican mafia. I do not know this as fact but I will try to go back and find where I read this. Anyone else see anything like that?
The reason I bring this up is may be this is a retaliation crime against biomom and Step Dad.
Also, we know who Terri's Mom and Dad is. Do we know anything about Dad's immediate family?

[MuffyBee]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_t-shirts_availabl.html
Kyron Horman T-shirts available to get word out
June 13, 2010

Jackie Koehler came from Tualatin this afternoon to pick up a T-shirt with missing second-grader Kyron Horman's picture on it -- the same one his family has worn to publicize his disappearance and spread the word as far as they can in the hopes that someone may have seen the boy.

Though the white shirts are free, Koehler came prepared to pay.

"I came with my money out and everything," she said. "I am a stay-at-home mom, and I have been following this everyday. If I get up in the middle of the night ... I check my computer to see if there's been updates."
Koehler, 44, also grabbed shirts for her each of her five children -- the youngest is 9 and attends Tualatin Elementary School. She said she's put up posters, printed pictures for people she knows who don't have access to a computer and she and her family took doughnuts to searchers.

"It's just heartbreaking when you have kids yourself," she said.

 Koehler's friend, Danny Campbell, 45, also of Tualatin, said people getting the shirts shows solidarity in the community. "It exposes the fact that people are aware," he said. "It shows that the community is growing together and working together."

Patrick Castro of Northeast Portland doesn't have children, but he said he, too, is doing all he can to get the word out about Kyron, who went missing June 4 from Skyline School in northwest Multnomah County.

Castro, 47, tunes in for every briefing and stays connected with the case via Facebook. He plans to wear his shirt to work Monday.

"This spreads the word even more," he said. "This allows people who are away from the television, who don't have a computer or who didn't read the newspaper to see someone wearing a T-shirt with this little boy. Any attention is important."

For 21-year-old Lacy House, the shirts continue to send a message of support and hope to the family. "Everyone I know -- and myself -- is there for the family," said House, who has a 2-year-old son. "There are a lot of people who care; I hope they know that."

Kyron T-shirts
The T-shirts can be picked up at the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office Hansen Building, 12240 N.E. Glisan Street in Portland. There are three boxes of shirts with about 100 total