Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #1 6/5/10 - 6/30/10

[klaasend]

Who is the 56 year old? Maybe an uncle?   
HORMAN, KRISTIAN S (Age 56)

Good question

[Itaryl Moosee]

I gotta jot down a short dream I had last night.

There was a group of kids, three or four, all playing with toys on the floor of a darkish room.

All of a sudden a boy who I "know" is Kyron grabs a number of giant Legos (the size of bricks) and he groups them together in a group. Then he happily says, "this is my area, this is "arizon", and he laughs jokingly at the word he just came up with.

The word sounded like Arizona, but without the last "a."

Like: R.E. Zone, or Arieh Zone, Arry Zone... something like that.

Not sure what that means, those with dream interpretation hopefully can explain. If not, just wanted to throw it in... in case it can help this somehow.

[Tracygirl]

I can't find the birthdate on the person arrested and given there are two with the same name?

Dah now I know what masons are. I was thinking it was a religion. I knew a guy who was in this.  He was telling me about the meetings, I thought they sounded sort of strange but it didn't seem criminal. My dad told me he would have nothing to do with them, he didn't like the blackball process. anyway, don't know much else, anyone want to shed some light

[Wyks]

TG my mom sez look here-
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/symbolism_index.htm

[Tracygirl]

TG my mom sez look here-
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/symbolism_index.htm

k, thanks. I will read it now

[Tracygirl]

TG my mom sez look here-
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/symbolism_index.htm

k, thanks. I will read it now

Ok, I have read about the eye thing before on money and other symbols in our culture. So is it feared that the masons are a secret satanic cult? Wow, now I am scared. I think I will go wake up my hubby. Yikes!

But it doesn't mean that Kaine is apart of this. He may have left it or never was a part of it. 

[Tracygirl]

What other case is the name Burnett in? I have read that name associated with something on here. Is it one of the washington/oregon cases? Anyone? hmmm now that is going to bother me.

[Peace]

Oh no. Yes, Wyks, I dearly hoped this was not the case, but things are starting add up. A terrible reminder of Sandra Cantu's case, and the other Lawless family member arrested for lewd acts with a child at the same time as Huckaby...... which we never heard more about. Searching for a suitcase in the water and all. Yes, DD may have some insight as to which body of water at what street should be searched.
Unfortunately, LE may remain tight-lipped on this, possibly this is what they knew all along. Maybe this is why the FBI was on this so fast. At least they used National Guard and Black-Hawks in this war this time. Hopefully, that will be standard practice from now on in these cases.

Can someone please find out when Kyron's frog project was assigned? May be relevant.

Where's Edward?

[doubledecker]

I am here
been researching this
and have a lot of info

hi wykes, someone came and got me...

[CarolynV]

I missed everything that happened today, and I am all ears?

Any news?

Any new news?

Hi everyone.

[doubledecker]

yes we have several horman masons... father and son, kristian scott Horman born 1977.  And also a Ross Horman.

the molestation 3rd degree charge is an old charge dating back to january 2009, but he was just finally sentenced on it yesterday june 16 ,2010, so he was taken into custody then.  But it is not a new charge by far. 

I can post the info let me go get it off my board

[doubledecker]

I highlighted this on my board and hope it transfers over here correctly but if not I will do it over here and this on can be deleted if it turns out all messed up.


gee I posted it right off and had not even read it... [size=150]this case has been going on for some time[/size].  he was just found guilty yesterday of this charge, but the charges have been ongoing for some time. 

[size=150]this starts in january of 2009, this case is about 1 1/2 years ago, and just now he was sentenced yesterday, june 16, 2010.  So he is in jail on this charge dating back to 1 1/2 yrs ago.  There is a letter from [size=150]Amanda Howards[/size], she is listed above posts.  [/size][/color] 


Superior Court Case Summary


Court: Snohomish Superior
Case Number: 09-1-00140-0

Sub Docket Date Docket Code Docket Description Misc Info
- 01-23-2009 COSTS ASSESSED Costs Assessed 200.00
1 [size=150]01-23-2009 INFORMATION [/size]
ATP0001 Information
Hupp, Halley Royal
2 [size=150]01-23-2009[/size] AFFIDAVIT/DECLARATION PROB CAUSE[/color] Affidavit/declaration Prob Cause
3 01-23-2009 OMNIBUS APPLICATION OF PROS ATTY Omnibus Application Of Pros Atty
4 01-23-2009 STATE'S LIST OF WITNESSES State's List Of Witnesses
5 01-23-2009 CERTIFICATE Certificate Of Address Search
6 01-23-2009 SUMMONS Summons
7 02-09-2009 INITIAL ARRAIGNMENT
ACTION Initial Arraignment
Omnibus 03-06-20099
JDG0001 Judge Ronald L Castleberry
8 02-09-2009 ORDER SETTING TRIAL DATE
ACTION Order Setting Trial Date
Stip Cont 5/15/09 04-24-2009JT
9 02-09-2009 ORDER Order On Release/detention Of Dfdt
- 02-09-2009 NO CONTACT ORDER No Contact Order
10 02-09-2009 NO CONTACT ORDER No Contact Order
11 03-06-2009 MOTION HEARING
ACTION Motion Hearing
Omnibus Hearing 04-24-20099
JDG0018 Judge George N. Bowden
12 03-06-2009 AGREED TRIAL CONTINUANCE
ACTION Agreed Trial Continuance
Stip Cont 7/17/09 05-15-2009JT
- 04-24-2009 TRIAL CONTINUED: STIPULATED Trial Continued: Stipulated
13 04-24-2009 MOTION HEARING
ACTION Motion Hearing
Omnibus Hearing 06-18-20099
JDG0022 Judge Michael T Downes
14 04-24-2009 AGREED TRIAL CONTINUANCE Agreed Trial Continuance 07-17-2009JT
- 05-15-2009 TRIAL CONTINUED: STIPULATED Trial Continued: Stipulated
15 05-21-2009 SHERIFF'S RETURN Sheriff's Return /ncic Validation
16 06-18-2009 OMNIBUS HEARING
JDG0023 Omnibus Hearing
Judge Eric Z. Lucas
17 06-18-2009 OMNIBUS ORDER
ACTION Omnibus Order
3.5 Hearing 07-09-2009RM
ACTION Arraign On Amended Information
ACTION Confirmed/dpa 30 Min
18 07-09-2009 MOTION HEARING
ACTION Motion Hearing
3.5 Hearing 08-06-2009RM
ACTION Arraign On Amended Information
ACTION Confirmed/dpa 30 Min
Plea 8/5/09 @3pm C304
JDG0022 Judge Michael T Downes
19 07-09-2009 AGREED TRIAL CONTINUANCE
ACTION Agreed Trial Continuance
Stip Cont 09/25/2009 08-14-2009JT
- 07-17-2009 TRIAL CONTINUED: STIPULATED Trial Continued: Stipulated
21 08-05-2009 MOTION HEARING
JDG0025 Motion Hearing
Judge Bruce I. Weiss
22 08-05-2009 AGREED TRIAL CONTINUANCE Agreed Trial Continuance 09-25-2009JT
20 08-06-2009 STIPULATION Stipulation To Admissibility Of
Statements Of Dfdt (non-custody)
JDG0025 Judge Bruce I. Weiss
- 08-06-2009 EX-PARTE ACTION WITHOUT ORDER Ex-parte Action Without Order
23 08-06-2009 CANCELLED: PLAINTIFF/PROS REQUESTED
JDG0025 Cancelled: Plaintiff/pros Requested
Judge Bruce I. Weiss
- 08-14-2009 TRIAL CONTINUED: STIPULATED Trial Continued: Stipulated
24 09-25-2009 MOTION HEARING
JDG0006 Motion Hearing
Judge Larry E Mckeeman
25 09-25-2009 AGREED TRIAL CONTINUANCE
ACTION Agreed Trial Continuance
Stip Cont 01/29/2010 12-04-2009JT
26 11-30-2009 MOTION HEARING
JDG0005 Motion Hearing
Judge Gerald L Knight
27 11-30-2009 AGREED TRIAL CONTINUANCE Agreed Trial Continuance 01-29-2010JT
- 12-04-2009 TRIAL CONTINUED: STIPULATED Trial Continued: Stipulated
28 01-29-2010 MOTION HEARING
ACTION Motion Hearing
Arraign On Amended Info 02-26-2010RM
ACTION Status Check Hearing
ACTION Confirmed/dpa 10 Mins
JDG0019 Judge Ellen J. Fair
29 01-29-2010 AGREED TRIAL CONTINUANCE
ACTION Agreed Trial Continuance
Stip Cont 4/23/2010 04-16-2010JT
- 01-29-2010 TRIAL CONTINUED: STIPULATED Trial Continued: Stipulated
30 02-26-2010 MOTION HEARING
JDG0022 Motion Hearing
Judge Michael T Downes
31 02-26-2010 ORDER FOR HEARING
ACTION Order For Hearing
Arraign On Amended Information 03-25-2010RM
ACTION Confirmed/dpa 10 Mins
32 03-25-2010 MOTION HEARING
JDG0026 Motion Hearing
Judge George Appel
- 03-25-2010 Arraign On Amended Information
33 03-29-2010 MOTION HEARING Motion Hearing
Quash Warrant Hrg: Order On Release
Dated 2/9/09 Shall Remain In Effect
JDG0013 Judge Thomas J. Wynne
34 03-29-2010 ORDER SETTING TRIAL DATE Order Setting Trial Date
Noted Above 4/16/2010
35 04-13-2010 NOTE FOR CALENDAR
ACTION Note For Calendar
Motion To Continue Hearing 04-15-2010RM
ACTION Confirmed/dpa 10 Min
36 04-13-2010 NOTE FOR MOTION DOCKET-LATE FILING Note For Motion Docket-late Filing
Noted Above 4/15/10 @8:45am C304
37 04-15-2010 MOTION HEARING
JDG0001 Motion Hearing
Judge Ronald L Castleberry
38 04-15-2010 AGREED TRIAL CONTINUANCE Agreed Trial Continuance 04-23-2010JT
- 04-15-2010 ORDER FOR HEARING Order For Hearing
Plea 4/21/10 @3pm C304
- 04-16-2010 TRIAL CONTINUED: STIPULATED Trial Continued: Stipulated
39 04-21-2010 AMENDED INFORMATION Amended Information
40 04-21-2010 EVIDENTIARY HEARING Evidentiary Hearing
Dfdt Stipulates To A Bench Trial On
Agreed Documentray Evidence
JDG0001 Judge Ronald L Castleberry
41 04-21-2010 STIPULATION Stipulation For Bench Trial On
Agreed Documentary Evidence With
Attachments
42 04-21-2010 ORDER SETTING Order Setting Sentencing
1pm Dept 9 Judge Castleberry 06-16-2010JC
43 04-21-2010 PRESENTENCE INVESTIGATION ORDER Presentence Investigation Order
44 06-16-2010 STIPULATED TRIAL Stipulated Trial
Court Finds Dfdt Guilty Of 3rd Deg
JDG0001 Judge Ronald L Castleberry
[size=150]Child Molestation [/size]- 06-16-2010 TRIAL DURATION ____.__ HRS Trial Duration 30 Mins
45 06-16-2010 FINDINGS OF FACT&CONCLUSIONS OF LAW Findings Of Fact&conclusions Of Law
[size=150]Guilty Of 3rd Deg Child Molestation [/size]
Upon Stipulated Bench Trial: Dfdt
[size=150]46 06-16-2010 SENTENCING HEARING [/size]
JDG0001 Sentencing Hearing
Judge Ronald L Castleberry
47 06-16-2010 REPORT Doc Presentence Investiagtion Rprt
48 06-16-2010 MEMORANDUM Dfdt's Presentence Memorandum
49 06-16-2010 INSTRUCTIONS Instructions Re Lfo's
50 06-16-2010 VICTIM STATEMENT Victim Statement
51 06-16-2010 LETTER Letter From Amanda Howards
52 06-16-2010 LETTER Letters Regarding Sentencing
53 06-16-2010 ORDER OF COMMITMENT Order Of Commitment -temp
- 06-16-2010 ORDER REQ BLOOD TESTS Order Req Blood Tests
54 06-16-2010 ORDER FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT PROTECTION Order For Sexual Assault Protection
55 06-16-2010 ORDER FOR HIV (AIDS) TEST Order For Hiv (aids) Test
- 06-16-2010 ORDER REQ BLOOD TESTS Order Req Blood Tests
- 06-17-2010 COMMENT ENTRY Copy Of Orsxp Sent To Scso W/lea
56 06-17-2010 REPORT Doc Presentence Investigation Rprt

[klaasend]

DD - was Amanda the victim?  Trying to see what his preference is. 

[doubledecker]

DD - was Amanda the victim?  Trying to see what his preference is. 

there is an older amanda about the age of kristian, I believe it is probably the x-wfe, and will find out. his daughter has a different name so is not his 15 yr old daughter.

 

[klaasend]

DD are you saying that he has been in jail all this time? 

[doubledecker]

there are two kristian hormans, one is 56 yrs old(according to a not so credible data base, but there is a pic of an older one in the masons who is at least that age, so I do believe there are two and one is probably that age.  he is listed with the younger one also, so they are related somehow.  probably kristian's uncle, but still looking

Greenwood Masonic Center
7910 Greenwood Ave N, Seattle, WA 98103  
Meets on the 1st Thursday of each month at 7:00 p.m. (If a Holiday, then the 3rd Thursday).  January and November meeting starts at 5:00 p.m.  Dark July and August. (Contact)  
Officers for 2006            
Worshipful Master WB Michael L. Ellsworth  
[size=150]Senior Warden Bro. Neil Horman [/size]
Junior Warden Bro. Leonard T. Hutchinson
Secretary WB Roger Pankey                        
Treasurer WB Bill A. Burnett  
Chaplain  Bro. Herbie E. Martin                                                    
Marshall Bro. Ralph Meyers                      
Musician WB David Clarke
[size=150]Senior Deacon Bro. Kristian Horman [/size]
Junior Deacon Bro. Robert Cittadini
Senior Steward Bro. Ross Horman        
Junior Steward Bro. Aaron Ellsworth-Krebs                      
Tyler WB Richard C. McMillan

[doubledecker]

in the edmonds lodge there is

Bro Kristian Horman, WB Neil Horman

the kristian in this one is the older one. 

[doubledecker]

there are two kristian hormans, one is 56 yrs old(according to a not so credible data base, but there is a pic of an older one in the masons who is at least that age, so I do believe there are two and one is probably that age.  he is listed with the younger one also, so they are related somehow.  probably kristian's uncle, but still looking

Greenwood Masonic Center
7910 Greenwood Ave N, Seattle, WA 98103  
Meets on the 1st Thursday of each month at 7:00 p.m. (If a Holiday, then the 3rd Thursday).  January and November meeting starts at 5:00 p.m.  Dark July and August. (Contact)  
Officers for 2006            
Worshipful Master WB Michael L. Ellsworth  
[size=150]Senior Warden Bro. Neil Horman [/size]
Junior Warden Bro. Leonard T. Hutchinson
Secretary WB Roger Pankey                        
Treasurer WB Bill A. Burnett  
Chaplain  Bro. Herbie E. Martin                                                    
Marshall Bro. Ralph Meyers                      
Musician WB David Clarke
[size=150]Senior Deacon Bro. Kristian Horman [/size]
Junior Deacon Bro. Robert Cittadini
Senior Steward Bro. Ross Horman        
Junior Steward Bro. Aaron Ellsworth-Krebs                      
Tyler WB Richard C. McMillan

now wait a minute here I MIGHT have a mistake here.  neil might not be kristian's father, because his father's name is actually richard neil so let me recheck this.  too many names the same in this family...one of those families where they have 8 names they name EVERYONE ugh.. makes it hard to sort out.  I'll get it together though at some point

[doubledecker]

DD are you saying that he has been in jail all this time? 

no I don't think he has been in the jail all this time, have jessstar read the court order up at the top of this but I believe he was released early on after the warrant and arraignment, then he got sentenced yesterday and taken into custody because he was sentenced. 

but let jessstar confirm that is what it says.  I am pretty sure he was out.

[doubledecker]

9 02-09-2009 ORDER Order On Release/detention Of Dfdt - 02-09-2009 NO CONTACT ORDER No Contact Order
10 02-09-2009 NO CONTACT ORDER No Contact Order