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Author Topic: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #1 6/5/10 - 6/30/10  (Read 565554 times)
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« Reply #600 on: June 18, 2010, 11:32:39 AM »

FoxNews just did a spot on Kyron. They "confirmed" that stepmom is reportedly the focus right now due to inconstent statements and the cell phone pings on Sauvie Island. Of course, I imagine someone else could have had her cellphone, but maybe that's part of her inconsistency. What a strange case. Goes to show you how true it is that you can't judge a book by its cover. We learn that time and time and time again.
That sure is true, and this is a very strange case. I have been uncomfortable with the stepmother from the beginning.
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« Reply #601 on: June 18, 2010, 11:54:38 AM »

FoxNews just did a spot on Kyron. They "confirmed" that stepmom is reportedly the focus right now due to inconstent statements and the cell phone pings on Sauvie Island. Of course, I imagine someone else could have had her cellphone, but maybe that's part of her inconsistency. What a strange case. Goes to show you how true it is that you can't judge a book by its cover. We learn that time and time and time again.
That sure is true, and this is a very strange case. I have been uncomfortable with the stepmother from the beginning.

Hello NoRose, I miss you!

This is such a sad case Sad i dont feel he is still alive sadly. I see this happen so much all over, but this one is so close to home, very scary.

I am not sure if it has been answered or not but in regards to the step father poss being a medford detective, i have never met or seen him, i know A LOT of our detectives, related to a few, related to a couple cops here, and go camping with many of the detectives, pd, swat and all sorts of our LE and have never seen or heard of him.

Doesnt mean he for sure isnt a detective here just my personal experience
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« Reply #602 on: June 18, 2010, 12:14:41 PM »

http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/kyron-hormans-stepmom-terri-moulton-horman-under-scrutiny-in-missing-child-case/19521940?ncid=webmail

The photo of SM she has that "fixed stare" all the culprit's have that forelorn look.

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« Reply #603 on: June 18, 2010, 12:20:30 PM »



(June 18) -- The search for missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman is now focused on the boy's stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman.

Two weeks after the little boy disappeared from his Oregon elementary school, Willamette Week reports that investigators have determined that Moulton Horman was not where she said she was on the day her stepson vanished.


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http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/kyron-hormans-stepmom-terri-moulton-horman-under-scrutiny-in-missing-child-case/19521940?icid=main|htmlws-main-n|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Fcrime%2Farticle%2Fkyron-hormans-stepmom-terri-moulton-horman-under-scrutiny-in-missing-child-case%2F19521940


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« Reply #604 on: June 18, 2010, 12:21:37 PM »

FoxNews just did a spot on Kyron. They "confirmed" that stepmom is reportedly the focus right now due to inconstent statements and the cell phone pings on Sauvie Island. Of course, I imagine someone else could have had her cellphone, but maybe that's part of her inconsistency. What a strange case. Goes to show you how true it is that you can't judge a book by its cover. We learn that time and time and time again.
That sure is true, and this is a very strange case. I have been uncomfortable with the stepmother from the beginning.

Hello NoRose, I miss you!

This is such a sad case Sad i dont feel he is still alive sadly. I see this happen so much all over, but this one is so close to home, very scary.

I am not sure if it has been answered or not but in regards to the step father poss being a medford detective, i have never met or seen him, i know A LOT of our detectives, related to a few, related to a couple cops here, and go camping with many of the detectives, pd, swat and all sorts of our LE and have never seen or heard of him.

Doesnt mean he for sure isnt a detective here just my personal experience
Hi Carrie, miss you also. It is very close to your home. Very strange case, I'm not sure exactly what the step dad does for a living, only about him being a policeman, I'm sure that is true and not a rumor, but don't know exactly.
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« Reply #605 on: June 18, 2010, 12:23:00 PM »

I hear you, there is just something that don't sit well with her, can't exactly pin point what it is.
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« Reply #606 on: June 18, 2010, 12:38:54 PM »

Hi Monkeys,

Trying to catch up here. I found this Newsletter - Dated Feb 2009
pdf: http://edmondsmasons.org/Membership/TrestleBoards/2009/Trestle%20Board.February%202009.pdf

snipped: Written by Kristian Horman - His thanks to his " Brethren" for allowing him to begin his " Mason career"
Illumination from the South

Greetings from the South,
Thank you to all the Brethren who have allowed me to
take this step in my Masonic career. I am looking forward
to the year ahead.

February 12th brings back the Heroes of 76 and their
wonderful flag presentation. Preceding the presentation
our wonderful Stewards will be preparing a meal of Red
Beans and Rice with Sausage which will be served starting
at 6:30 pm.

March 12th will be our meal to celebrate Saint Patrick’s
Day, a traditional meal of Corned Beef and Cabbage will be
served at 6:30 pm

April 9th harkens us back to the high seas and a time
when Swashbucklers toted their wares and Pirates ruled
the high seas. Bring your eye patch and join us for Talk Like
a Pirate night. The Cooks inform me that the food will be
hot, brown and there will be plenty of it. Grog starts
flowing at 6:30 pm.

Bro. Kristian Horman
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page 1 of the news letter is
Greetings from the East
We started out the year talking about what the one thing is
that you can do to help insure that Edmonds Lodge No. 165 is
alive and well in 100 years.
One of the key assets for the lodge is our Lodge building. It is
known by many names: the Opera House, the Edmonds Masonic
Center, and to some the Edmonds Masonic Temple.
Written by WB R. Neil Horman
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« Reply #607 on: June 18, 2010, 12:50:37 PM »

Thanks Deenie.
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« Reply #608 on: June 18, 2010, 12:58:58 PM »

i was reading on blinks newest article and some says kyron found step mom arrested, with link to an article that only says that, comment under that article said a wife of a police man told her...

dont know if this is true just what is being said...
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« Reply #609 on: June 18, 2010, 12:59:51 PM »

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/breaking-news-kyrons-found-on-sauvies-island-step-mother-arrested/question-1065881/

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/17/kyron-horman-case-uncle-kristian-horman-is-arrested-for-child-molestation/#comments

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« Reply #610 on: June 18, 2010, 01:02:22 PM »

not sure what to think, this happened the other day also, with false reporting.... any thoughts?

that article was very vague with no evidence or sources....
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« Reply #611 on: June 18, 2010, 01:11:16 PM »

Portland Tribune reports that parents and students of Skyline are being sent a questionaire, asking (among other things) if they saw Kyron in a white Ford F250 truck the morning he disappeared.

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=127687387448812800

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« Reply #612 on: June 18, 2010, 01:22:17 PM »

Thanks Deenie.
This is the link to the Brothers of ....
http://edmondsmasons.org/

If you go to the site the Horman's both Kristian and elder WM R. Neil Horman are all over the site. It appears that WM R. Neil Horman is no longer on their roster. He is listed as previous year Master - he has been replaced as of 2010.

Go to side bar Community ( I would put up a link, but the links do not change no matter where you are in this site ) Where they Honor the Local Police and Fire
Edmonds Lodge #165 is pleased to honor our community Police and Fire Fighters annually. Recognition Night 2009
Pictures are taken in Oct 2009
I think that on the very bottom is a photo of Kristian Horman - serving plates to the local Police and Fire personnel. They all look so friendly .. I wonder how friendly. Friends in High Places hmm.
I wonder why Kristian Horman was still allowed to be in his rank of the Brother's with his charges of molesting one of his own. ( even if it was a step child) He was a Deacon in 2008. 2009 He became a Jr. Warden. 2010 He is not listed on the roster.

All this brotherhood crap and power that these people generate by pushing themselves into places " such as the LE depts and schools" is just ... (I don't like it)
Not to mention the religious aspect that they create as if they are "holier than thou" and represent some type of worship within their " agenda/group". That they are untouchable and above the law.
... It all brings back " The Lawless and the connections of Wenatchee " .... uck. All of it. I wonder if this Mason Group had any affiliation with Kyron's school. ( of any kind)

Their Calender of Events for June 2010
June 2010
6/2  Edmonds Center Assoc. Meeting & Officers meeting 7:00 PM
6/3  Analia, OES 7:30 PM
6/7  Rainbow  Alderwood #55 Meeting, 7:30 PM
6/9  MW Grand Lodge F&AM Annual Communication, Grand Mound Washington
6/10   MW Grand Lodge F&AM Annual Communication, Grand Mound Washington
6/11  MW Grand Lodge F&AM Annual Communication, Grand Mound Washington
6/17 Snohomish County 15 RAM, Potluck 6:30 PM, Meeting 7:30 PM
6/19 Edmonds ,BBQ and Festive Table Lodge 7:00 PM (Polo)
6/21 Job's Daughters, Bethel #5 Meeting, 7:30 PM
6/22 Rainbow  Alderwood #55 Meeting, 7:30 PM
6/24 Edmonds Stated Meeting, MM Degree 7:00(Tux)    
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« Reply #613 on: June 18, 2010, 01:25:16 PM »

Kyron's case will be featured in AMW this Saturday night.

People Magazine had Kyron's picture on the front cover. Not sure that it is so visible, since they have two bigger pictures of young and muscly guys. But, it's good exposure.

The Sheriff warns that some ******* people are pretending to be with the local search and are asking for donations from unsuspecting people.

The search is still centered around Sauvie Island.

http://www.kgw.com/news/Second-grade-student-missing-from-Skyline-Elementary-95670454.html

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« Reply #614 on: June 18, 2010, 01:35:48 PM »

The Grand Master's Itinerary http://www.freemason-wa.org/GrandMasterItinerary.aspx
For the Month of June 2010
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Date     Day     Time     Activity     Dress     Ladies
1    Tues             
2    Wed       Grand Lodge of Oregon    Team U    
3    Thu       Grand Lodge of Oregon    Team U    
4    Fri       Grand Lodge of Oregon    Team U    
5    Sat       Grand Lodge of Oregon - Travel Day    Team U    
6    Sun             
7    Mon             
8    Tues    8:00 AM    Grand Lodge of Washington, Grand Mound    Team U    
9    Wed    8:00 AM    Grand Lodge of Washington, Grand Mound, Jurisprudence Mtg    Team U    

10    Thu    8:00 AM    Grand Lodge of Washington, Grand Mound    MC
Team U    
11    Fri    8:00 AM    Grand Lodge of Washington, Grand Mound    MC
Team U    
12    Sat    10:30 AM    Grand Lodge of Washington, Grand Mound, EXCOM    MC
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« Reply #615 on: June 18, 2010, 01:37:56 PM »

DD are you saying that he has been in jail all this time? 

no I don't think he has been in the jail all this time, have jessstar read the court order up at the top of this but I believe he was released early on after the warrant and arraignment, then he got sentenced yesterday and taken into custody because he was sentenced. 

but let jessstar confirm that is what it says.  I am pretty sure he was out.

This tells me he was out:

9 02-09-2009 ORDER Order On Release/detention Of Dfdt

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33 03-29-2010 MOTION HEARING Motion Hearing
Quash Warrant Hrg: Order On Release
Dated 2/9/09 Shall Remain In Effect






thanks jessstar, just as I thought, but I like to get some confirmation on the important things. 
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« Reply #616 on: June 18, 2010, 01:38:21 PM »

I am going to wait for a source outside of a "gossip site" or a blog to report that the step mom is the center of the investigation. I know Fox reported it but they were using that blog as information. I am going to wait. I know it is difficult to not react to this news, but as it is now, it is unconfirmed. Given this case has had so many rumors surrounding it, I think for me it is the way to go. Perhaps I am stupid, I don't know. I don't like to be reactive and then later have to feel like crap for pointing the fingers at an innocent person.
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« Reply #617 on: June 18, 2010, 01:40:56 PM »

FYI So if I am reading this correctly....so a person is guilty of this if they have caused 2 minors to have sexual contact? Am I understanding this? if so, WTH??

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.44.089

RCW 9A.44.089
Child molestation in the third degree. 

(1) A person is guilty of child molestation in the third degree when the person has, or knowingly causes another person under the age of eighteen to have, sexual contact with another who is at least fourteen years old but less than sixteen years old and not married to the perpetrator and the perpetrator is at least forty-eight months older than the victim.

     (2) Child molestation in the third degree is a class C felony.


[1994 c 271 § 305; 1988 c 145 § 7.]


Notes:
     Intent -- 1994 c 271: See note following RCW 9A.44.010.

     Purpose -- Severability -- 1994 c 271: See notes following RCW 9A.28.020.


     Effective date -- Savings -- Application -- 1988 c 145: See notes following RCW 9A.44.010
 


This makes perfect sense, TG.  It's to cover those situations where an adult "causes" minors to engage in sexual activity for the "adult's" sexual gratification; in other words, so he/she can watch.


Oh my god Jess that is so upsetting. This person, the uncle of this boy was charged with a crime of encouraging two minors to have sex? As he watched? He is a very sick man, very sick. WTH is wrong with some people!
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« Reply #618 on: June 18, 2010, 01:43:04 PM »

The stories of the grandfather gives me goosebumps. Oh I have a feeling this case is going to a place even more disturbing then I first thought.
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« Reply #619 on: June 18, 2010, 02:17:56 PM »

Skyline students, parents asked about Kyron again

School questionnaire also seeks information on a white Ford pickup
By Jim Redden

The Portland Tribune, Jun 18, 2010, Updated 2.6 hours ago (3 Reader comments)

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The questionnaire was prepared by the Multnomah County Sheriffs Office. A copy was obtained by KPAM 860. It asks students about seeing Kyron at the school on Friday, June 4, and whether they saw him in a white Ford F250 pickup truck. Kyron's stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, owns a similar truck and took him to the school that morning. Media outlets reported that a white Ford pickup was towed from the Horman home several days ago, but sheriff's office officials said it was because of mechanical trouble. Snip..

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=127687387448812800

(Pretty slick of the Sheriff's Office to pass out questionnaires to the students)-ME
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