Natalee Case Discussion #836 6/8/10 - 6/10/10

[TURBOTHINK]

I wonder if he has pictures of a dead Natalee on his laptop.

Blah, this is ignored every time I bring it up, that he might have done snuff videos on Natalee and this may have been his anniversary gift of her death to himself, to do a snuff video of Stephany and she found the evidence on his laptop and confronted him or got caught...knowing what was about to happen and fought it.  Or, she could have died without the evidence of Natalee, and he just made that up and snuffed her out.  I have always thought that gap of time on the phone for such a long time with Kalpoes was downloading a video of  Natalee dying.

I have replied in the past as I think this is entirely possible and very likely. He is a sick SOB and I would not doubt anything he and his father did. I wish they could waterboard that Kalpoes as he KNOWS everything. If I were him I would have already called up the FBI because he is going down with JVS before this over. I would be playing "lets make a deal" BEFORE I spent more time than Joran did which is entirely possible if they charge him under the R.I.C.O. Act.

[carpe noctem]

Van de Sloot Peru murder confession may be strategic, says lawyer

http://www.livinginperu.com/news-12407-law-order-van-de-sloot-peru-murder-confession-may-be-strategic-says-lawyer

They are trying to get Joran out of Peru.......do his time else where.

Where I`m from we call that - peeing in the wind.

Joran is SO done.

[klaasend]

CNN is saying the FBI payed Joran $25,000 not Beth

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/09/us.van.der.sloot.alabama/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

[Tylergal]

I think I am pretty good at looking at a translation, and interpetting what it is saying...but this one stumps me...Huh?


According to Van Susteren, the FBI is good at his stomach with the subsequent run of "murderer" of Peruvian Stephany Flores Ramírez.

I need my hysterical laugh monkey icon....LMAO

How about this: "According to Van Susteren, the FBI had had a bellyful of this moron and was happy to let him run off to Peru."

How about, Valerie?  It says, "According to van Sustren, the FBI is fed up with this murderer and his subsequent murder of.....Peruvian...."

[cece]

Joran van der Sloot’s confession help reveal extortion angle in case 

http://infocera.com/Joran_van_der_Sloot%E2%80%99s_confession_help_reveal_extortion_angle_in_case_9437.htm

[Tylergal]

I wonder if he has pictures of a dead Natalee on his laptop.

Blah, this is ignored every time I bring it up, that he might have done snuff videos on Natalee and this may have been his anniversary gift of her death to himself, to do a snuff video of Stephany and she found the evidence on his laptop and confronted him or got caught...knowing what was about to happen and fought it.  Or, she could have died without the evidence of Natalee, and he just made that up and snuffed her out.  I have always thought that gap of time on the phone for such a long time with Kalpoes was downloading a video of  Natalee dying.

I have replied in the past as I think this is entirely possible and very likely. He is a sick SOB and I would not doubt anything he and his father did. I wish they could waterboard that Kalpoes as he KNOWS everything. If I were him I would have already called up the FBI because he is going down with JVS before this over. I would be playing "lets make a deal" BEFORE I spent more time than Joran did which is entirely possible if they charge him under the R.I.C.O. Act.

Send "they arses" to Gitmo and let them all be waterboarded.  It would be cheaper on the governments of all the respective countries than putting this SOB through a trial in each respective country.

[Port Valerie]

I think I am pretty good at looking at a translation, and interpetting what it is saying...but this one stumps me...Huh?


According to Van Susteren, the FBI is good at his stomach with the subsequent run of "murderer" of Peruvian Stephany Flores Ramírez.

You're probably correct.


I need my hysterical laugh monkey icon....LMAO

How about this: "According to Van Susteren, the FBI had had a bellyful of this moron and was happy to let him run off to Peru."

How about, Valerie?  It says, "According to van Sustren, the FBI is fed up with this murderer and his subsequent murder of.....Peruvian...."

[Tylergal]

TURBOTHINK, I believe you and Rick of Texas and I might be the only ones who believe this is possible, but these are sick people doing sick things, sicker than the average mind can imagine and the reason we do not want to think about it, is that is so beyond what the normal person thinks of, but I have worked with porno rehabilitation in our area (not because I have any experience (LOL) but because our church is working with the porno addicts in the area and this is not beyond the pale, and even people you would never think of thinking of things like this.  Drugs can do strange things to otherwise good people (which the Sloots are not, but that is beside the point) and I do believe she is on film somewhere dying and I believe these people are capable of the most moribund and morbid acts.

[Port Valerie]

Ooops. Put my comment in too early. My reply to Tylergal: You're probably correct.

[MisGivings]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stephany-Flores-Ramirez-and-Joran-Van-der-Sloot-Case/122041101165784?ref=ts&v=wall#!/pages/Anywhere-But-Aruba-ABA/127813283909570?ref=mf

[Port Valerie]

Not that it means anything, but isn't the Kalpoes' mother named Ramirez?

[Tylergal]

CNN is saying the FBI payed Joran $25,000 not Beth

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/09/us.van.der.sloot.alabama/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

I don't know if they did or not, but I read that in the NY Post today that the FBI had paid it, but this is not out of the ordinary for our government to do this.  They do this all the time.   Remember when President Bush said there are things you will never know.  Well, that was then and this is now.  We have someone running the country that tells everything that happens and makes up the rest.

[Tamikosmom]

GRETA:

june 8, 2010 | 2:24 PM ET
BREAKING NEWS: IT WAS HOLLOWAY ATTORNEY JOHN Q. KELLY WHO SET UP THE MAY 10 STING

The Aruban Attorney General told me that the FBI was warned that van der Sloot was leaving the country but that the FBI did not move.

http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/breaking-news-it-was-holloway-attorney-john-q-kelly-who-set-up-the-may-10-sting/


ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL
Video Released of Van Der Sloot
Aired June 7, 2010 - 19:00:00   ET

TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: And you know, the other thing is that he was actually on the island here in Aruba, and it was a money transfer -- wire transfer here in Aruba. And Aruba authorities had him under surveillance and could have arrested him at that minute, held him for 30 days

America would have extradited him back to America. He could have gotten a 20-year prison sentence in America. And again, he slipped through the fingers of the Aruban authorities, took the $15,000, went to Peru, gambled, had a good time, and ended up -- murdered another girl.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/07/ijvm.01.html

If Aruba had not been so H--- bent on protecting the Aruban house of cards from collapse ... a 21 year old young lady named Stephany Flores would not have had an encounter with Joran van der Sloot.

Janet

+++++++

The O'Reilly Factor
Did FBI Botch Van Der Sloot Case?
Wednesday, June 09, 2010

BO DIETL, FORMER NYPC DETECTIVE: Yes, he takes off. The meeting was on May 10. He disappears on the 13. But then, again, you have incriminating statements by him under the law of Aruba. The Aruba government could have held for 180 days just for investigation.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,594262,00.html

[klaasend]

Just posted on the front page of SM by someone in the NL:

Michael
Submitted on 2010/06/09 at 1:11pm

#11 Peter Blanken said Dutch detectives are traveling to Peru as we speak to question Joran and to look in his laptop. My guess is that they did indeed find something that can help solve the case on Aruba.

[Irish Monkey]

Hello Monks~  Been "wurking"...

HLN is reporting that the re-enactment may not happen at all because the Peruvian LE says it may already have enough to file formal charges.

[carpe noctem]

Not that it means anything, but isn't the Kalpoes' mother named Ramirez?

Yep - Nadira Ramirez

[klaasend]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stephany-Flores-Ramirez-and-Joran-Van-der-Sloot-Case/122041101165784?ref=ts&v=wall#!/pages/Anywhere-But-Aruba-ABA/127813283909570?ref=mf

Anywhere But Aruba (ABA)

[klaasend]

Hello Monks~  Been "wurking"...

HLN is reporting that the re-enactment may not happen at all because the Peruvian LE says it may already have enough to file formal charges.

Thanks!

[Puzzler]

CNN said there was a new development........ prolly hype but I wonder if they've charged him. Wow, the 2 missing girls in Columbia were seen with Joran? I hope Aruba and Joran's family feel the blood flowing on that island and that they realize that they'll never be able to wash it off!

Nor paint over it!

[TexasRick007]

TURBOTHINK, I believe you and Rick of Texas and I might be the only ones who believe this is possible, but these are sick people doing sick things, sicker than the average mind can imagine and the reason we do not want to think about it, is that is so beyond what the normal person thinks of, but I have worked with porno rehabilitation in our area (not because I have any experience (LOL) but because our church is working with the porno addicts in the area and this is not beyond the pale, and even people you would never think of thinking of things like this.  Drugs can do strange things to otherwise good people (which the Sloots are not, but that is beside the point) and I do believe she is on film somewhere dying and I believe these people are capable of the most moribund and morbid acts.

I wouldnt put anything past him.  After 5 years, I think most of us have figured out that we should expect the worst from this POS and that anything that comes out of Aruba is more likely BS or wishful thinking. THough I like Jossy, an awful lot of his comments in past have proved false too..