Natalee Case Discussion #836 6/8/10 - 6/10/10

[klaasend]

from the terror jaap videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it-SThWcaXU&feature=related

watch at 5.30 joran smashes glass because the machine and the girl operating it say he's a liar

they leave the room and are discussing in the hallway

The girl standing next to JVDS is the one that did the polygraph test and called him a liar.

Look at his expression on 6.30 and the following evil smile it really creeped me out.

The girl (and now i'm going out on a limb) does have a south american look.

I agree, some resemblance to Stephany.  He still looks cocky back when this was done.  Not so cocky now.

[SunnyinTX]

http://animalnewyork.com/2010/06/did-magic-play-a-role-in-joran-van-der-sloots-confession/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+animalnewyork+%28ANIMAL%29

Did Magic Play A Role In Joran van der Sloot’s Confession?



Seven Indian shamans in brightly colored ponchos repeatedly stabbed a cloth doll representing van der Sloot in a “spiritual punishment” ritual. “We’re punishing him so that all the forces of evil are purged,” one shouted.” And it may have worked!

Nah, I even danced naked in the shower and it never worked.  Just coincidence. 

ROTFLMAO!!!!  Tyler!!!

[Shan1628]

It would appear that Anita van der Sloot and Julia Renfro were in the know regarding the May 10, 2010 sting operation by John Q. Kelly, FBI and ALE.  It would appear that both these women were aware that Joran was on the run.  How would that be?

Janet

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Van Der Sloot Confesses To Peru Slaying
Stephany Flores' Battered Body Found In Hotel
June 8, 2010

The day of his arrest in Chile, Van der Sloot was charged in the United States with trying to extort $250,000 from Holloway's family in exchange for disclosing the location of her body and describing how she died.

U.S. prosecutors say $15,000 was transferred to a Dutch bank account in his name on May 10. He arrived in Peru four days later, his visit coinciding with the runup to a June 2-5 Latin America Poker Tour tournament with a $930,000 prize pool.

http://www.wfsb.com/news/23825980/detail.html


June 8, 2010 | 2:24 PM ET
BREAKING NEWS: IT WAS HOLLOWAY ATTORNEY JOHN Q. KELLY WHO SET UP THE MAY 10 STING

Kelly, with the FBI, and with the assistance of  Aruban law enforcement, set up the sting operation for May 10.  A hotel room in Aruba and a car were both equipped with videotape equipment so that the crime could be caught on tape. ....

3 days after Van der Sloot was caught on tape committing the two planned crimes, he boarded a flight from Aruba to Colombia and on to Peru.  The Aruban Attorney General told me that the FBI was warned that van der Sloot was leaving the country but that the FBI did not move.

http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/breaking-news-it-was-holloway-attorney-john-q-kelly-who-set-up-the-may-10-sting/

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May 14, 2010 – Anita and Renfro post to Joran

On Joran's FB

Anita Hugen
I hope the future will bring you, wisdom, trust,honesty, love and good friends.
May 14 at 10:26am

Julia Renfro
Be Grateful... for those who love you, for those who support you, for everything -- good and the bad. Be Grateful, life will come full circle even when the clouds are so dark, there is always a rainbow to come.
Sunday at 5:05pm


06/02/2010

Joran van der Sloot accused of murder in Peru!

SAME DAY: Valentijn and Anita unfriend Joran on Facebook.

I completely agree with you, Janet.  They knew he was fleeing FOREVER.  He had NO plans to return.  I hope that the FBI is aware of the 'games' that Arubian authorities play.  It is EVIDENT that they tipped JVS off to leave the island, ASAP. 

[Tamikosmom]

Just said on NG that Peruvians are working with Aruba on the JVS laptop.  GREAT.  JUST F*N GREAT. 

CNN LARRY KING LIVE
Murder Suspect Van Der Sloot Confesses
Aired June 8, 2010 - 21:00   ET

LARRY KING, HOST: What is the status of the case -- the case of Van Der Sloot in Aruba right this minute?

TACO STEIN, SOLICITOR GENERAL, ARUBA (via phone): OK, well, if you look at it from what has happened recently, for us not much has changed. We are still in a position that we say we have done a very great number of land inquiry which didn't work out, and we still are willing and ready to pick up on new lines of inquiry or new information that needs to be investigated.

But at this moment, they are not yet there. But the new case might bring something about. We've heard about the laptop and that laptop might or might not -- we don't know that yet of course -- information that might be useful for us.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/08/lkl.01.html

[BUCKSHOT]

Tomorrow will be an exciting day, especially at 9am, Peruvian time.

[SunnyinTX]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/joran_report_dead_sloot_sipped_espresso_h0Xo4WyDPR4WBgUnlPrw5N?offset=8#comments

Joran van der Sloot sipped espresso and ate cake with dead body: report

POST WIRE SERVICES

Last Updated: 2:33 PM, June 9, 2010

Posted: 1:45 PM, June 9, 2010

Joran van der Sloot is a sick man with a bad case of the munchies.

The details of his alleged confession to the murder of a 21-year-old woman inside a hotel room in Peru included sipping an espresso and chowing down on sponge cake while the bloodied body of Stephany Flores lay on the floor just a few feet away, according to a chilling new report.

Van der Sloot had even debated whether to take the body with him and dump it in the ocean.

"I was going to use one of the traveling bags to take the body out of the hotel, but I didn't do it because I was afraid that I would be detained leaving the hotel with my baggage and not paying the bill," Van der Sloot told police, according to the Peruvian daily newspaper La Republica. "I didn't because I was too afraid to be confronted."

FBI CASH FUNDED 'SLAY' TRIP

PHOTOS: THE VAN DER SLOOT SAGA

The 22-year-old also swallowed several amphetamine pills as he pondered what to do next.

Van der Sloot then showered, got dressed and fled the room, just three hours after he'd arrived at the hotel with Flores, and fled, according to surveillance video released by authorities in Peru.

Van der Sloot had thought about getting rid of the body by dumping it in the ocean, cops believe after finding maps charting currents in his backpack when he was arrested in Chile a few days later.

This comes as two federal law enforcement officials say US authorities paid van der Sloot $15,000 in a sting operation and delayed arresting him because they were trying to help build a murder case against him in the 5-year-old unsolved slaying of Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

During that delay, van der Sloot arrived in Lima, Peru, on May 14 from Colombia and authorities said he has confessed to last week's killing of a 21-year-old business student in his hotel room there.

The law enforcement officials say the investigation into Holloway's unsolved murder was revived about six weeks ago when van der Sloot reached out to an individual close to Holloway's mother in Alabama and requested $250,000 in exchange for disclosing the burial site of Holloway's body on the island of Aruba.

Van der Sloot apparently killed Flores after she had snooped on his lap top information that tied him to Holloway's disappearance.

Kermit can you post the link please

[klaasend]

Tomorrow will be an exciting day, especially at 9am, Peruvian time.

7am pacific time

[Tylergal]

Tyler, Yes, those were the days when your DH would put on another pot of coffee and we would go into chat rooms in languages we didn't even understand and copy and translate and try to find anything we could!  And that nut who told us the photos were made of tiny ones placed to form a larger different image so that we went nuts trying to see them.

Did you see a post from the FP from someone named Selena Klaas brought over.  I wonder if that is THE Selena.  She was a good researcher especially on Posner.

Anna, I got kicked out.  I did not see the Selena post, but I would like to see that.  I do recall that you and DH held her in such high regard for her analytical research.

[Tylergal]

This is word of mouth gossip out of South America.. I have no way to link it or prove it so take it for what it is worth or throw it away..

He actually told the cops he masterbated..

I think he did this over her dead body.

Then I consider what may have happened with Natalee.
He is one sick S.O.B.

Yes, I think that is part of the necrophilia and/or snuff-type scenario.  I would not be surprised at all.  In fact, I pretty much expected it, even if it had not been stated.

[BUCKSHOT]

Hope it goes like this...

Aruba: Here, let us have the laptop. We are computer hacking experts.

Peru: No, we will make you a copy and call you when we are ready.


MESSAGE TO PERU: DO NOT GIVE UP THE LAPTOP TO THE ARUBANS. THEY HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF CORRUPTION. BACK IT UP AND GIVE A COPY TO THE FBI. CORRUPT ARUBAN OFFICALS FEAR EXPOSURE !!!!

[cecilita]

Hello Monkeys,
I read in previous post that Stephany was lesbian.I can not find that info anywhere.

[NM]

First Goon Story: Remarkably Similar to HI Drop-Off Tale

Regarding what happened the fateful night of May 30 he said: "We were in his car when we were stopped by a white car with two men inside, police were uniform and shields (...) put us in the car and We started asking for money, "he continued. The most incredible part of your story has to do with what happened in his hotel room, where he was found dead Flores. As narrated as they came to his room found a man in bed, who had a pistol in his belt, and another man emerged from the bathroom with a knife. He added that one of them hit the girl in the face. Who were those guys? According to the Dutchman would have said, their alleged attackers were the same police who asked him for money on the road.

1. Uniformed (Like Mickey Johns and Abraham Jones)
2. Two of them -- not 5, not 3 --but 2.
3. The uniformed men carry things: guns, knifes, walkie talkies
4. The engagement of the uniformed men with the vehicle he rides in: they get in the car in Peru; in Aruba, they await outside the car.
5. A girl with a head wound
6. The projection of the frameup: it was the "guards" who did it

You can hear him thinking: "it almost worked once before -- maybe it can work in a place like Peru..."

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IIRC jurin, deepsh#t and/or suckazz mentioned a white car or truck when they had Natalee just after leaving C&C.
Always great to see you Hammer.

[klaasend]

Hello Monkeys,
I read in previous post that Stephany was lesbian.I can not find that info anywhere.

It hasn't been a big topic but her family and friends say that she was openly gay but that she often flirted with men in casinos.

[Lifesong]

Does anyone remember the date of the ISA bingo picture with Anita and Joran? 

No, but I'll find out

Likely March 28th

Bingo: 28th March 2010 as a tentative date

http://www.isaruba.com/Community/Minutes/december.html

I'm still catching up, this may have already been posted.

That was the tentative date, but I read in later minutes that another event caused them to change the date (don't recall what that event was now).

April 25 is the date that was decided.

http://www.isaruba.com/Students%20life/Pictures/2009-2010/SWF_files/4th%20quarter/pto_Bingo.swf

Thank you so much, Texasmom!  I got it.

Do you happen to have the pics handy of the wreck in April involving Lorenzo's van that included Joran?

[klaasend]

I'm wondering if Renfro and others in Aruba will prove to have lied for Joran by emails and such on Joran's laptop.  Gee, I bet there are several sweating in Aruba right now

[Tamikosmom]

Tomorrow will be an exciting day, especially at 9am, Peruvian time.

7am pacific time

I must have missed something.  What's happening at 7:00 AM PT when the morning cobweb have yet to clear?

Thanks

Janet



 

[crazybabyborg]

I'm wondering if Renfro and others in Aruba will prove to have lied for Joran by emails and such on Joran's laptop.  Gee, I bet there are several sweating in Aruba right now

Paulus was a good teacher.

[klaasend]

Lifesong:

[klaasend]

Tomorrow will be an exciting day, especially at 9am, Peruvian time.

7am pacific time

I must have missed something.  What's happening at 7:00 AM PT when the morning cobweb have yet to clear?

Thanks

Janet



 

Press Conference in Peru by LE

[MuffyBee]

I'm wondering if Renfro and others in Aruba will prove to have lied for Joran by emails and such on Joran's laptop.  Gee, I bet there are several sweating in Aruba right now

We've gone from Sweaty Running Man to Sweaty Running Mob.  JMHO