Natalee Case Discussion #837 6/10/10 - 6/12/10

[ozziesmom]

I agree can.  But remember, he does have one Ace up his sleeve.  He knows that members of ALE/judiciary/OM covered up for he and his father's crime.  And Aruba knows he knows that.

I was having problems quoting, hope this is okay....If he has no proof of them covering up for him, then...no one will believe him...remember the little boy that cried wolf??? Joran better have something on them substancial, not just his words as they are worth NOTHING....and he'll say ANYTHING

[Sea Searcher]

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Prosecutors will first file a formal charge to a judge — expected on Friday — who then has 15 days to accept the charges, or dismiss them. If accepted, a months-long investigation phase begins before formal charges are reviewed and prosecutors file an official "accusation" — a charge with a request for a penalty.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37618530/ns/world_news-americas/

[klaasend]

http://tinyurl.com/coldbloodmurder

Joran van der Sloot simulated as an excuse not to have keys to the room where Stephany Flores killed

Video of Joran with coffee cups and bread pretending he is locked out of room, and Stephany not answering his knocks on the door.

Click on the photo below to watch the video:

[can]

I agree can.  But remember, he does have one Ace up his sleeve.  He knows that members of ALE/judiciary/OM covered up for he and his father's crime.  And Aruba knows he knows that.

I was having problems quoting, hope this is okay....If he has no proof of them covering up for him, then...no one will believe him...remember the little boy that cried wolf??? Joran better have something on them substancial, not just his words as they are worth NOTHING....and he'll say ANYTHING

I so agree ozziesmom!

[Sea Searcher]

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Prosecutors will first file a formal charge to a judge — expected on Friday — who then has 15 days to accept the charges, or dismiss them. If accepted, a months-long investigation phase begins before formal charges are reviewed and prosecutors file an official "accusation" — a charge with a request for a penalty.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37618530/ns/world_news-americas/

Sorry to quote myself but clicked to fast...

That's where I got the 15 days from..but I guess it's the judge who has the 15 days. I think we're expecting the prosecutors to file charges today ? but I see no mention of a deadline on this...the only place I remember reading about a deadline was from Joran's lawyer (((monkey eye roll )))

[alagary]

I keep reading different things , in Aruba or in Peru ?

[jen3560]

There must be a lot of American reporters in Aruba...

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/18552-minister-mike-eman-reunion-na-curacao-cancela-relaciona-caso-holloway.html

Papiamentu translation:



minister mike eman: meeting at curaçao cancela relaciona caso holloway

thursday, 10 june 2010 16:21

if is good cinco minister have to owing to depart before curacao before one meeting important cu ministernan by antiyas. this is one meeting where the mandatarionan by antiyas y aruba is talk on various aspecto. the meeting here owing to remain cancela because have quite prensa by merca at aruba y they be willing to evita cu algo can go robez y have several mandatario abroad by island the instant ey. all this is draai rond by the caso by nathallee holloway y detencion by joran at peru. first minister is splica more.

Thanks TxMom - did we see any reports from any of them last night?  I was otherwise occupied and didn't see any news last night.

[can]

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Prosecutors will first file a formal charge to a judge — expected on Friday — who then has 15 days to accept the charges, or dismiss them. If accepted, a months-long investigation phase begins before formal charges are reviewed and prosecutors file an official "accusation" — a charge with a request for a penalty.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37618530/ns/world_news-americas/

Thanks Sea Searcher. 
It's quite amazing isn't it, how quickly LE has been able to present their case to Prosecution.  All due to Joran's sloppy crime...guess he didn't learn that much from C. S. I. after all. 

R. I. P Stefany.

[jen3560]

I'm still several pages behind, are we getting a hint here that the investigation of the investigation has been/is being released??

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/18552-minister-mike-eman-reunion-na-curacao-cancela-relaciona-caso-holloway.html

Scirbi pa naruto, June 10, 2010

News krantnan after di Hulanda: At the location where the body according to Van der Sloot was not found. Joran's father, Paul van der Sloot, was mentioned earlier. He stated that the investigation into Natalee Holloway has been seriously hampered by the former Dutch police commissioner Jan van der Straten. Such research would have worked against his friend Paul van der Sloot to help protect his son.

scirbi before megtron, june 10, 2010

cos is indicate cu ministerio publico y gobierno is sconde cos. cu they're cansela one viahe is quite odd self. they will owing to remain before protiha they ex-comisario??? always om owing to sconde by the caso owing to cuminsa. neither cuanto the minister bieuw was bark om was sconde y tapa before folk y periodistanan. the cos here is give off an odour quite stinki self. some day ey i have read over by cacho one is come cacho. more they try tapa, more i am believe is berdad. is good have internet y we can attain know quite cos by investigadornan by afor. om stop by sconde cos y if more cabes have cu cai cu joran the will have cu cai??

scirbi before dercomp, june 10, 2010

i because one police here at aruba, can say cu i am 99% assure cu jan van der straaten have quite by haber cu the caso not can owing to wordo resolvi!!! the is 'not just anyone' cu have to wordo categorisa because one person 'non grata' here at aruba!!!

[Sea Searcher]

I keep reading different things , in Aruba or in Peru ?

Not sure if you're addressing me but...this article I posted is about Peru

[terryd270]

Good morning!  I just stopped by before I have to go to a scrum meeting ( meeting to get assignments for today) and feel that once again Joran is pulling everyones strings.. Do it once to me, shame on you but do it again then shame on me.. So I would tell him not interested and locked the SB up and throw away the key and don't leave the light on..

TD

[wingnut]

I wonder if Deepak and Satish see it coming yet?  You can be sure he will say they killed Natalee, and he just helped hide the body to help his friends.  Wonder it they're sorry yet that they didn't try harder for those VISAS?  They are sitting ducks in Aruba...

IMO

[klaasend]

Posted at RU after seeing the 90 second video of Joran with the 2 cups of coffee:

yankee-in-france  PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:24 am         

How he must have laughed at all of us who believed in him and contributed to funds for his legal fees and don't forget the New York Times ad that was placed that I think cost $1800.00.

Dugo, you are right about not getting involved with the personalities in cases that we follow but there was just something about this [Natalee] case and I don't understand what or why.

[klaasend]

I wonder if Deepak and Satish see it coming yet?  You can be sure he will say they killed Natalee, and he just helped hide the body to help his friends.  Wonder it they're sorry yet that they didn't try harder for those VISAS?  They are sitting ducks in Aruba...

IMO

They should be sweating like Paulus:

[terryd270]

In Aruba Joran ran the jail but not here..  I saw pictures while he was in jail smiling and laughing.. He was worshipped on that island.. Now when he is see being showned in public, its with a bullet proof vest and I don't see any smiles.. He might think he is smart but not really.. I mean he has no one to help him now and no followers like those two brothers that looked like they flying monkeys in the Wizard of Ozz.. He was protected in the Aruban jail and the other inmates were not but now he is the one that isn't and other inmates and guards will used their power over him..  He will not adjust, won't happen.. 

td

[ozziesmom]

I wish they would take the American reporters out of Aruba.....This murder happened in Peru, leave Aruba to itself, when ever they're involved, there's always problems!
Why would MSM send anyone to Aruba anyway???? It's not like they're chock full of information, they are too busy painting rocks, loosing evidence, eating corn flakes, protesting against Beth calling Natalee's shirt fishing net, and turning blood into chocolate....like they have time to be interviewed...

[Nut44x4]

Posted at RU after seeing the 90 second video of Joran with the 2 cups of coffee:

yankee-in-france  PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:24 am         

How he must have laughed at all of us who believed in him and contributed to funds for his legal fees and don't forget the New York Times ad that was placed that I think cost $1800.00.

Dugo, you are right about not getting involved with the personalities in cases that we follow but there was just something about this [Natalee] case and I don't understand what or why.

Do we need a POLL?  Who will be the last defender standing!!

[jen3560]

The more I think on it ........ the more I think Joran will go absolutely "scorched earth" and will start throwing EVERYONE under the bus. I'm thinkin' he won't go down alone. I think he will start naming names -- he's basically a coward.

Definitely wreck, we can count on that.  Aruba knows that too.....

I agree  I think that's why he wants to talk to authorities in Aruba only regarding Natalee's location.  He probably thinks he can threaten them and say look, either you find a way to get me out of here, try to bargain or I'm going to start the bus and start lining everyone up.

Yup!!

[theboyzmom]

Interesting to note in the video the clerk opens the door and never notices a dead body in the room. Was she around the corner or something that he did not see it?

[jen3560]

Peru is on Eastern Standard Time. Our EST zone is on Daylight Saving Time for the summer. Yes, Peru is one hour behind our Eastern time right now.

Thanks...I forgot about that

As far as Joran telling "only" Aruban authorities, Natalee's location...whatever, they already know. Joran is about control and this is the way he "thinks" he's going to get it. I would say tell me now or we're all done talking....march him down to the prison and if he's got nothing to say, toss him in...see you in court..maybe

my opinion only..

I'm not sure Aruba authorities want to hear where Natalee is. They already know where she is and would like very much to keep it their little secret.

Precisely!  Hi nimrod, good to see you.

If "someone" has known where Natalee is for the last 5 years, you can bet that she has been moved more than once since then. I can't believe that Joran is the only person that knows.

You betcha!  I firmly believe ALE removed her from the cage in Jan 2008.