April 30, 2024, 07:22:21 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: NEW CHILD BOARD CREATED IN THE POLITICAL SECTION FOR THE 2016 ELECTION
 
   Home   Help Login Register  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 »   Go Down
« previous next »
  Print  
Author Topic: Lively Case Discussion #496 7/16 - 7/18/2006  (Read 134629 times)
0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.
lexie
Scared Monkey
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 362
« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2006, 12:59:05 AM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Freebird - I completely agree

Lexie - You are correct.  It appear JR exaggerated about the Jug pushing her incident.


Wonder if anyone sent a CORRECTED statement to Vanity Fair  Laughing  Cool
Logged
lexie
Scared Monkey
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 362
« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2006, 01:00:34 AM »
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Freebird"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Quote from: "Freebird"
Quote from: "klaasend"
Freebird - we may never know the truth about that.   Wink


Officially.  Wink


It was posted in Diario that witnesses get paid for making statements.  I suppose it would be possible then if JR gave a witness statement she could get paid.


I saw the thing about a "small reward" if the information is good.  That's not a good way of doing police work IMO.  But my point here is....I'm trying to criticize Julia.  Laughing


She's too easy a target  Wink



Aw, Klaas,
Freebird is new here....break out the toast Laughing
Logged
Freebird
Scared Monkey
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 122
« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2006, 01:01:01 AM »
klaasend--indulge me please, I'm new here.   Laughing
Logged
Freebird
Scared Monkey
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 122
« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2006, 01:01:48 AM »
LOL  lexie  Jinx! 123...
Logged
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 74276



WWW
« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2006, 01:02:14 AM »
Quote from: "Freebird"
klaasend--indulge me please, I'm new here.   Laughing




 Laughing  Laughing
Logged
lexie
Scared Monkey
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 362
« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2006, 01:02:28 AM »
Quote from: "Freebird"
LOL  lexie  Jinx! 123...
Laughing  Laughing
Logged
lexie
Scared Monkey
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 362
« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2006, 01:03:15 AM »
I knew you could find it!  LOL Laughing
Logged
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 74276



WWW
« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2006, 01:04:23 AM »
I need to take a shower now - will be back in a bit
Logged
Sleuth
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 2088
« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2006, 01:06:52 AM »
RED - Thank you for the front page post regarding the evidence that mysteriously disappears - the fabric, the belt, etc.  

RED and KLAASEND - Thanks for all your work last night to verify and reverify the JR statement for accuracy.  I knew Klaas was up to something - good work Klaasend!


We should all feel lucky and blessed that we are on a forum that cares about the truth, whether it is what we like or not.
Logged
Check every detail-check it twice. At least check it once. FIND NATALEE
Freebird
Scared Monkey
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 122
« Reply #49 on: July 17, 2006, 01:07:18 AM »
Ok, I'll behave now.  I'm not one for gratuitous bashing but the woman really irks me no end.
Logged
Sleuth
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 2088
« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2006, 01:07:51 AM »
Nice to see Vanderbilt's new contribution!
Logged
Check every detail-check it twice. At least check it once. FIND NATALEE
SunFreak2
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 3251
« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2006, 01:09:50 AM »
I've been thinking about why Aruba continues to stand behind the vd Sloots and cover up this crime. It has to be more than tourism at stake, b/c we know that tourism has taken at least a 15% hit and will probably continue to decline.  It has to be more than just friendships and loyalty to Paulus.  It seems that there are some dirty little secrets that some are willing to go to great lengths to keep from being revealed.  We know that money laundering, drugs & prostitution goes on in Aruba and is not considered all that terrible except that it is illegal here in the US (mostly).  It has to be the child porn & incest that they are desperate to keep hidden at all costs.  Why else would so many people put themselves on the line for these 3 kids & Paulus?
Logged
lexie
Scared Monkey
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 362
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2006, 01:12:18 AM »
Quote from: "Freebird"
Ok, I'll behave now.  I'm not one for gratuitous bashing but the woman really irks me no end.


You are certainly not alone in that. She used to post here as BonDia.  I do not think she has any close personal friends on the monkey board any longer.   Laughing
Logged
SunFreak2
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 3251
« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2006, 01:12:45 AM »
Quote from: "Freebird"
And I'll add to that, whether she's getting paid or not to push a certain point of view, her agenda is crystal clear and it really bugs me that JDVS supporters dont  just acknowledge the elephant in the room.  She does nothing to help the Island with that attitude and blame Twitty/blame America stance.  As long as that goes on, tourism will suffer.  I think it was the Vanity Fair piece that said her newsletter is the outpost for all things Anti-Twitty.  That says it.


I think Julia has her fingers in a big piece of that porn pie and that is why she is so rigorously defending J2K & ARuba.  She has a lot to lose.
Logged
thirdstrike
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 2945
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2006, 01:14:17 AM »
Good evening everyone!  Been away this weekend, and have pretrty mucn been out of the loop.  Did catch Dana's show though...am I reading right that the statemtn about Renfor was proved accrate?  Also, does anyone know which date Dana's show had Julia as a guest?
Logged
Freebird
Scared Monkey
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 122
« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2006, 01:16:53 AM »
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
I've been thinking about why Aruba continues to stand behind the vd Sloots and cover up this crime. It has to be more than tourism at stake, b/c we know that tourism has taken at least a 15% hit and will probably continue to decline.  It has to be more than just friendships and loyalty to Paulus.  It seems that there are some dirty little secrets that some are willing to go to great lengths to keep from being revealed.  We know that money laundering, drugs & prostitution goes on in Aruba and is not considered all that terrible except that it is illegal here in the US (mostly).  It has to be the child porn & incest that they are desperate to keep hidden at all costs.  Why else would so many people put themselves on the line for these 3 kids & Paulus?


Myself, I dont really think it goes that deep--child porn or anything like that--I think it began as favoritism gone wild, turning a blind eye to the judge's son, etc.  and now they can't get themselves out of it--they've spent some much time and money protesting that everything is on the up and up and by the book, they are hoping to just ride it out.  I could be wrong.
Logged
klaasend
Administrator
Monkey Mega Star
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 74276



WWW
« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2006, 01:18:44 AM »
Quote from: "thirdstrike"
Good evening everyone!  Been away this weekend, and have pretrty mucn been out of the loop.  Did catch Dana's show though...am I reading right that the statemtn about Renfor was proved accrate?  Also, does anyone know which date Dana's show had Julia as a guest?


Thirdstrike - as it turns out the JR Statement that was posted at BFN turned out to be an inaccurate translation.  The corrected translation of the sentance in question is here below.  There were also some other parts left out but nothing to do with whether JR was paid or not.
Logged
lexie
Scared Monkey
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 362
« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2006, 01:18:49 AM »
Quote from: "SunFreak2"
I've been thinking about why Aruba continues to stand behind the vd Sloots and cover up this crime. It has to be more than tourism at stake, b/c we know that tourism has taken at least a 15% hit and will probably continue to decline.  It has to be more than just friendships and loyalty to Paulus.  It seems that there are some dirty little secrets that some are willing to go to great lengths to keep from being revealed.  We know that money laundering, drugs & prostitution goes on in Aruba and is not considered all that terrible except that it is illegal here in the US (mostly).  It has to be the child porn & incest that they are desperate to keep hidden at all costs.  Why else would so many people put themselves on the line for these 3 kids & Paulus?


In the beginning, I was very skeptical of all the "conspiracy" theories, but the longer this goes on, the more you have to wonder why.  Like you said, they should have given up J2K, even PVDS, months ago, if that was all they were hiding.  There has to be something bigger and more damaging to tourism than rape/murder by locals.

I also think back to Beth's statements.  She has,  NEVER that I know of, stated that Joran killed Natalee... only that the three "KNOW WHAT THEY DID WITH HER".  That leaves room for them passing her off to others.  While the human trafficking is not something I believed in the beginning, I wonder now if there were others involved, and J2K were the delivery boys.
Logged
nonesuche
Monkey All Star Jr.
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 8878
« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2006, 01:22:00 AM »
Quote from: "lexie"
RE: Julia's statement....

It IS interesting that the version to police does not mention shoving or the baby in arms like the version she reported to Vanity Fair.


very good point lexie and one I had not thought of until you mentioned it. I only wish I had saved the tear-jerking posts bondia made about the damage to that baby  Rolling Eyes
Logged
I continue to stand with the girl.
Sleuth
Monkey Junky
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 2088
« Reply #59 on: July 17, 2006, 01:23:30 AM »
RED - JR owes you big time for uncovering the correct statement.
Logged
Check every detail-check it twice. At least check it once. FIND NATALEE
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 »   Go Up
  Print  
Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum > Natalee Holloway > LCD Archive > Topic: Lively Case Discussion #496 7/16 - 7/18/2006
 « previous next »
 
Jump to:  

Use of this web site in any manner signifies unconditional acceptance, without exception, of our terms of use.
Powered by SMF 1.1.13 | SMF © 2006-2011, Simple Machines LLC
 
Page created in 2.556 seconds with 19 queries.