Lively Case Discussion #496 7/16 - 7/18/2006

[klaasend]

BRB - need to dry hair  

[Easywriter]

Should I tell him to forget it?

[Spock]

Hi Klaasend;

I'm having real trouble "buying" that story of the Columbian boy "dead a year" at the rocks. Maybe Jossy will have a chance to confer with his sources and get the full story. It just doesn't add up to me.

I don't buy it at all.  I believe Art Wood said they were told the same thing about the rock area when they were searching.  That someone had been found there but it was months prior to Natalee.  Smoke screen, don't buy it at all.

I was surprised when Art Wood said the "rock videos" may be a key piece of evidence in the case.  Many of us have thought they were important, but to have someone of Art's credentials say that they could be "key" hightens my interest more. I hope Dana can help us find the answers.

[klaasend]

Should I tell him to forget it?

No, just ask him if he's gotten a better explanation or a different one.  We won't hold him to it.  I know he has to rely on people from ALE who may not be entirely candid with Jossy's people.

[klaasend]

Hi Klaasend;

I'm having real trouble "buying" that story of the Columbian boy "dead a year" at the rocks. Maybe Jossy will have a chance to confer with his sources and get the full story. It just doesn't add up to me.

I don't buy it at all.  I believe Art Wood said they were told the same thing about the rock area when they were searching.  That someone had been found there but it was months prior to Natalee.  Smoke screen, don't buy it at all.

I was surprised when Art Wood said the "rock videos" may be a key piece of evidence in the case.  Many of us have thought they were important, but to have someone of Art's credentials say that they could be "key" hightens my interest more. I hope Dana can help us find the answers.

Me too Spock.  I love the way guests on Dana's show are allowed to talk.  So nice for a change.

[Port Valerie]

Don't know if this is relevant as a sign of things to come. They're detaining people involved in offshore betting. Is Aruba involved in that?


Mon Jul 17, 6:07 PM ET
 


LONDON (Reuters) - David Carruthers, chief executive of online gaming group BETonSPORTS, has been detained by U.S. authorities while changing planes, the company said on Monday, sending the shares down more than 20 percent.

"While changing flights in the United States en route from the UK to Costa Rica, David Carruthers, chief executive of BETonSPORTS Plc was detained by U.S. federal authorities," the company said in a statement.

"The board are currently seeking clarification as to the basis of the detention." it added.

A spokeswoman for BETonSPORTS, which runs a large part of its operation from the Costa Rican capital, said the incident happened on Sunday night when Carruthers was on his way to San Jose, but could give no further details.

Shares in the firm were 23 percent lower at 114 pence by 0930 GMT on Monday, valuing the business at around 105 million pounds ($193.3 million) .

The fall sparked concerns that the detention could be industry related, dragging down a raft of other Internet betting companies including FTSE 100 share PartyGaming which lost as much as 11.5 percent, Midcap 250 stock 888 Holdings and Austria's betandwin which also tumbled 11 percent.

Last week Carruthers told Reuters he thought that a U.S. Republican-written, House of Representatives-approved bill to crack down on Internet gambling by banning banks and credit card companies from processing the payments was bound to fail due to the mountainous backlog of other U.S. legislation.

[Port Valerie]

Easy -- is Jossy away from Aruba permanently? Does he intend to go back? Is this just a vacation? Or is he worried about his safety there?

[klaasend]

Don't know if this is relevant as a sign of things to come. They're detaining people involved in offshore betting. Is Aruba involved in that?


Mon Jul 17, 6:07 PM ET
 


LONDON (Reuters) - David Carruthers, chief executive of online gaming group BETonSPORTS, has been detained by U.S. authorities while changing planes, the company said on Monday, sending the shares down more than 20 percent.

"While changing flights in the United States en route from the UK to Costa Rica, David Carruthers, chief executive of BETonSPORTS Plc was detained by U.S. federal authorities," the company said in a statement.

"The board are currently seeking clarification as to the basis of the detention." it added.

A spokeswoman for BETonSPORTS, which runs a large part of its operation from the Costa Rican capital, said the incident happened on Sunday night when Carruthers was on his way to San Jose, but could give no further details.

Shares in the firm were 23 percent lower at 114 pence by 0930 GMT on Monday, valuing the business at around 105 million pounds ($193.3 million) .

The fall sparked concerns that the detention could be industry related, dragging down a raft of other Internet betting companies including FTSE 100 share PartyGaming which lost as much as 11.5 percent, Midcap 250 stock 888 Holdings and Austria's betandwin which also tumbled 11 percent.

Last week Carruthers told Reuters he thought that a U.S. Republican-written, House of Representatives-approved bill to crack down on Internet gambling by banning banks and credit card companies from processing the payments was bound to fail due to the mountainous backlog of other U.S. legislation.

Yes...can you say Michael Posner??

[klaasend]

Easy -- is Jossy away from Aruba permanently? Does he intend to go back? Is this just a vacation? Or is he worried about his safety there?

PV - I think Easy has gone for the evening, I don't see him logged in any more.

I'm done for the night too.  Goodnight and see you all tomorrow!

[Sleuth]

O/T - Goodnight

Ditto..

[cubbeegirl]

Good morning monkeys! Just returned from a ten day trip to the mountains in Arkansas and have been so busy I have not even seen any news at all.... have I missed anything?
By the way, nice new look....
I am not going anywhere either... just got in from a thirteen hour drive and this is one of the first places I came to...

[Spock]

Easy -- is Jossy away from Aruba permanently? Does he intend to go back? Is this just a vacation? Or is he worried about his safety there?

I can't see Jossy being the "fearful" type, but that same questions was raised at BFN tonight. Jossy may know more than some are comfortable with.

[Sleuth]

Hasn't this case brought home the realization that we do live in the very best country in the world? We are so lucky to be Americans.

So true, Ono.   I live in South Florida, and I can tell you that I see a lot more people trying to get into the country than trying to get out.....

[klaasend]

Good morning monkeys! Just returned from a ten day trip to the mountains in Arkansas and have been so busy I have not even seen any news at all.... have I missed anything?
By the way, nice new look....
I am not going anywhere either... just got in from a thirteen hour drive and this is one of the first places I came to...

Hi Cubbee - hope you had a great time!  No you didn't miss very much.  You can probably just go through this thread and get mostly caught up.

I'm out of here for the nite.  See you tomorrow I hope!

[Port Valerie]

Klaas, thanks for answering both of my questions. Had to sign off for a few minutes because my laptop was overheating. Really -- the fan was going and it felt real hot so I decided to give it a five-minute cooling off. Don't wanna burn up all my electrons, ya know. When you're out of electrons, you're practically nowhere.  

Now I will say goodnight and give my laptop a long cooling off.

Peace on earth.

[Hat]

Greetings to Klaas and all the monkeys.
Gotta drop in once in a while at least...

[igsigs]

At least...HAT

Big month for Karin. Judge has been delaying VDS suit, wanting to know if Joran remains a suspect. Within a week or two Joran could be cleared of suspect status and a recipient of large cash payout. That should boost tourism.

[Sleuth]

Greetings to Klaas and all the monkeys.
Gotta drop in once in a while at least...

Hey Hat - good to see you.

What do you think of the latest Diario article about the underage porn - any relation to this case?

[Hat]

Greetings to Klaas and all the monkeys.
Gotta drop in once in a while at least...

Hey Hat - good to see you.

What do you think of the latest Diario article about the underage porn - any relation to this case?

Might be something there. Some have speculated this going way back. I always had trouble figuring older players would have these punks scouting for them due to risk.

[nonesuche]

Don't know if this is relevant as a sign of things to come. They're detaining people involved in offshore betting. Is Aruba involved in that?


Mon Jul 17, 6:07 PM ET
 


LONDON (Reuters) - David Carruthers, chief executive of online gaming group BETonSPORTS, has been detained by U.S. authorities while changing planes, the company said on Monday, sending the shares down more than 20 percent.

"While changing flights in the United States en route from the UK to Costa Rica, David Carruthers, chief executive of BETonSPORTS Plc was detained by U.S. federal authorities," the company said in a statement.

"The board are currently seeking clarification as to the basis of the detention." it added.

A spokeswoman for BETonSPORTS, which runs a large part of its operation from the Costa Rican capital, said the incident happened on Sunday night when Carruthers was on his way to San Jose, but could give no further details.

Shares in the firm were 23 percent lower at 114 pence by 0930 GMT on Monday, valuing the business at around 105 million pounds ($193.3 million) .

The fall sparked concerns that the detention could be industry related, dragging down a raft of other Internet betting companies including FTSE 100 share PartyGaming which lost as much as 11.5 percent, Midcap 250 stock 888 Holdings and Austria's betandwin which also tumbled 11 percent.

Last week Carruthers told Reuters he thought that a U.S. Republican-written, House of Representatives-approved bill to crack down on Internet gambling by banning banks and credit card companies from processing the payments was bound to fail due to the mountainous backlog of other U.S. legislation.

Yes...can you say Michael Posner??

Klaas-

Yes I do realize you are asleep at this late hour, but saw this and had to remind everyone do you recall when I posted a billionaire from Forbes new under 40 list earlier this year, who is co-founder of partygaming.com? His inspiration and possible muse was Ruth Parasol, formerly diva of porn on the west coast of the US?

The lines are so blurred here with many of the gaming companies at least affiliates with porn outfits and vice-versa, as well as some in each who own dual/tandem investements in both?

Anurag Dikshit, one can never forget that name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anurag_Dikshit

Ruth Parasol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Parasol

<please note Ruth also enjoys homemaking and motherhood>