Lively Case Discussion #496 7/16 - 7/18/2006

[klaasend]

Note - these are approximate locations

[SunnyinTX]

I spotted something that sheds some light for me on the civil suit, I think. The article refers to Catharine MacKinnon, an attorney who champions women's rights.

Representing a group of women who had been raped during the Bosnian conflict, in a case called Kadic v. Karadzic, she employed a little-known American law, the Alien Tort Claims Act, which allows plaintiffs to file civil suits against foreign citizens in US courts, provided that the defendant can be served on US soil. Previous users of the statute had been isolated individuals.

http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20060731&s=nussbaum

thanks MsMarple...this is certainly encouraging!

[SunnyinTX]

Afternoon Monkeys.  The JVDS sites are in full meltdown--something's up.

Hi freebird..I will read on and see what's happening.....

[Ono]

What I wouldn't give for someone to interview Satish.

I just feel that the one who so far has said nothing, , might have a lot to say.

Exactly...still waters run deep.

[klaasend]

klaas--I dont think there's any prescribed period within which she must rule.  If there comes a point when either parties' rights and expectations of justice are compromised by delay, they can file a motion to request a ruling and appeal to a higher court.

[SunnyinTX]

Afternoon Monkeys.  The JVDS sites are in full meltdown--something's up.

what do you mean Freebird???
and By teh way HI there , it is me Mama_Mouse

I dont know what's up exactly but they seem scared and crazed, more than usual.  Attacking posters with the most vicious assaults--the kind they usually reserve for the family.  I suspect a favorable decision for the family will be handed down soon from Kapnick.  They're in full-press "Julia can do no wrong" mode, so I wonder if someone knows that she really was paid by polis.

I sure hope you are correct Freebird.....

[Ono]

I agree Skeeters would be great on DANA's show.  Dana said last night he was going to try to get Jossy to do a show Thursday night this week.

Hope it's convenient for Jossy!

[mrs. red]

I spotted something that sheds some light for me on the civil suit, I think. The article refers to Catharine MacKinnon, an attorney who champions women's rights.

Representing a group of women who had been raped during the Bosnian conflict, in a case called Kadic v. Karadzic, she employed a little-known American law, the Alien Tort Claims Act, which allows plaintiffs to file civil suits against foreign citizens in US courts, provided that the defendant can be served on US soil. Previous users of the statute had been isolated individuals.

http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20060731&s=nussbaum

EXCELLENT!!!

[SunnyinTX]

Actually, the only thing Holland said about the Skeeters tape was that the Dr. Phil version was edited for the program.  That's all they said.  They never said the copy of Skeeters hard drive was edited or false.

And to clarify further, they said the words werent rearranged or altered or anything like that--I believe it was background noise was edited out and a clip was obviously taken from the whole recording.

It's funny (aboput that Skeeters tape)...when it was making the rounds on all the SMS shows...the Aruban critics of the tape (the lovely Arlene, for example) spoke only to the fact that the Dr Phil version was edited.  Duh!!  Of course it was edited...for time, that is!  I've never heard one thing spoken on any of those shows about the version which existed on the HD...

I can tell you...skeeters told me the tapes had been verified by the FBI as true and unaltered....I suspect these the tape is not being aired as it is evidence...REAL EVIDENCE.....

[thirdstrike]

Actually, the only thing Holland said about the Skeeters tape was that the Dr. Phil version was edited for the program.  That's all they said.  They never said the copy of Skeeters hard drive was edited or false.

And to clarify further, they said the words werent rearranged or altered or anything like that--I believe it was background noise was edited out and a clip was obviously taken from the whole recording.

It's funny (aboput that Skeeters tape)...when it was making the rounds on all the SMS shows...the Aruban critics of the tape (the lovely Arlene, for example) spoke only to the fact that the Dr Phil version was edited.  Duh!!  Of course it was edited...for time, that is!  I've never heard one thing spoken on any of those shows about the version which existed on the HD...

I can tell you...skeeters told me the tapes had been verified by the FBI as true and unaltered....I suspect these the tape is not being aired as it is evidence...REAL EVIDENCE.....

Let me ask you Sunny...are the tapes that Kathy has on her site the real, authentic ones (if you know)?

[KatzHome]

Last night at work I found out that there is a Polygraphers Convention in town.

Jamie Skeeters is one of their keynote speakers.

Wednesday starts my vacation and I was thinking of popping over there to see if I could meet with Jamie.

I'd like to see him go on Dana's show. That's what I want to ask him if he'll do.

I've already posted that I believe the Skeeters Tapes are for real ~ but that Aruba will not use them as evidence ~ they'll say that they won't because Jamie is not ALE ~ but the real reason seems to be because Aruba does not want to prosecute J2K ~ for whatever reasons.

Anyone have any questions for him ~ Anna ~ I hope you're around to see this post ~ I know you'd have great questions for him.

Strike ~ you are so way purple cool.

Hey Katz!  Got my email I assume...

  Yeah, I did, Strike {{{hugs}}}

[mrs. red]

Last night at work I found out that there is a Polygraphers Convention in town.

Jamie Skeeters is one of their keynote speakers.

Wednesday starts my vacation and I was thinking of popping over there to see if I could meet with Jamie.

I'd like to see him go on Dana's show. That's what I want to ask him if he'll do.

I've already posted that I believe the Skeeters Tapes are for real ~ but that Aruba will not use them as evidence ~ they'll say that they won't because Jamie is not ALE ~ but the real reason seems to be because Aruba does not want to prosecute J2K ~ for whatever reasons.

Anyone have any questions for him ~ Anna ~ I hope you're around to see this post ~ I know you'd have great questions for him.

Strike ~ you are so way purple cool.

I would LOVE for you to do that Katz!!!!! Great Idea!!

[mrs. red]

What I wouldn't give for someone to interview Satish.

I just feel that the one who so far has said nothing, , might have a lot to say.

I think he is probably the one to really hammer...

[KatzHome]

Last night at work I found out that there is a Polygraphers Convention in town.

Jamie Skeeters is one of their keynote speakers.

Wednesday starts my vacation and I was thinking of popping over there to see if I could meet with Jamie.

I'd like to see him go on Dana's show. That's what I want to ask him if he'll do.

I've already posted that I believe the Skeeters Tapes are for real ~ but that Aruba will not use them as evidence ~ they'll say that they won't because Jamie is not ALE ~ but the real reason seems to be because Aruba does not want to prosecute J2K ~ for whatever reasons.

Anyone have any questions for him ~ Anna ~ I hope you're around to see this post ~ I know you'd have great questions for him.

Strike ~ you are so way purple cool.

Hi Katz!   That is a great idea!! Hope you get to speak with him...I believe his tapes are authentic as well. Will you be able to sit in on his speech? Exciting ~

They'll let me into the convention for $300....   errrr  I don't think so...

But ~ I'm going to see if I can at least speak with Jamie ~ and hey ~ maybe they'll let me in for just a smile...

[thirdstrike]

Last night at work I found out that there is a Polygraphers Convention in town.

Jamie Skeeters is one of their keynote speakers.

Wednesday starts my vacation and I was thinking of popping over there to see if I could meet with Jamie.

I'd like to see him go on Dana's show. That's what I want to ask him if he'll do.

I've already posted that I believe the Skeeters Tapes are for real ~ but that Aruba will not use them as evidence ~ they'll say that they won't because Jamie is not ALE ~ but the real reason seems to be because Aruba does not want to prosecute J2K ~ for whatever reasons.

Anyone have any questions for him ~ Anna ~ I hope you're around to see this post ~ I know you'd have great questions for him.

Strike ~ you are so way purple cool.

Hey Katz!  Got my email I assume...

  Yeah, I did, Strike {{{hugs}}}

Good!  I'm glad!!  You talk to who you needed to talk to (via the email request)?

[cubbeegirl]

What I wouldn't give for someone to interview Satish.

I just feel that the one who so far has said nothing, , might have a lot to say.

I think he is probably the one to really hammer...

I have always thought so too....

[thirdstrike]

What I wouldn't give for someone to interview Satish.

I just feel that the one who so far has said nothing, , might have a lot to say.

I think he is probably the one to really hammer...

I have always thought so too....

It may be too late to do that.  I think even someone with the potential to be the weakest link (remember the "ghost in jail" thing?) would by now have been well coached in the art of the "don't talk, you walk" strategy...

[SunnyinTX]

Last night at work I found out that there is a Polygraphers Convention in town.

Jamie Skeeters is one of their keynote speakers.

Wednesday starts my vacation and I was thinking of popping over there to see if I could meet with Jamie.

I'd like to see him go on Dana's show. That's what I want to ask him if he'll do.

I've already posted that I believe the Skeeters Tapes are for real ~ but that Aruba will not use them as evidence ~ they'll say that they won't because Jamie is not ALE ~ but the real reason seems to be because Aruba does not want to prosecute J2K ~ for whatever reasons.

Anyone have any questions for him ~ Anna ~ I hope you're around to see this post ~ I know you'd have great questions for him.

Strike ~ you are so way purple cool.

Katz...definately go....he is the nicest person.....I also would love to see him on Dana's show...perhaps you can set it up

[msmarple]

I spotted something that sheds some light for me on the civil suit, I think. The article refers to Catharine MacKinnon, an attorney who champions women's rights.

Representing a group of women who had been raped during the Bosnian conflict, in a case called Kadic v. Karadzic, she employed a little-known American law, the Alien Tort Claims Act, which allows plaintiffs to file civil suits against foreign citizens in US courts, provided that the defendant can be served on US soil. Previous users of the statute had been isolated individuals.

http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20060731&s=nussbaum

EXCELLENT!!!

Yeah - it Was Excellent ... for those who didn't read the article, here's the result (although it doesn't state whether Karadzic showed up):

MacKinnon brought suit against Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic on behalf of a specific group of female clients, seeking damages for injuries consisting in "genocidal sexual atrocities perpetrated as a result of [his] policy of ethnic cleansing." Damages were sought for the named individuals, as was an injunction that Karadzic order the genocide to stop. On August 10, 2000, a jury in the State of New York awarded the plaintiffs a total of $745 million in compensatory and punitive damages and a permanent injunction.

A point here is that she went after the person in charge for allowing it to happen, rather than attempting to identify specific perps.

My bet is that if the judge gives it a Go, VDS will default.

[KatzHome]

Actually, the only thing Holland said about the Skeeters tape was that the Dr. Phil version was edited for the program.  That's all they said.  They never said the copy of Skeeters hard drive was edited or false.

And to clarify further, they said the words werent rearranged or altered or anything like that--I believe it was background noise was edited out and a clip was obviously taken from the whole recording.

It's funny (aboput that Skeeters tape)...when it was making the rounds on all the SMS shows...the Aruban critics of the tape (the lovely Arlene, for example) spoke only to the fact that the Dr Phil version was edited.  Duh!!  Of course it was edited...for time, that is!  I've never heard one thing spoken on any of those shows about the version which existed on the HD...

I can tell you...skeeters told me the tapes had been verified by the FBI as true and unaltered....I suspect these the tape is not being aired as it is evidence...REAL EVIDENCE.....

Jamie Skeeters and I emailed back and forth a few times too, Sunny ~ I emailed him way back...  before I was even posting here...  back when I was posting on WS...

I posted here the other day, when someone was questioning the Skeeters tapes, that he wrote in an email to me that the tapes were for real ~ and that I would not ask him again ~ to me, that would be rude... like questioning his integrity.

Now ~ whether or not Aruba uses that tape is another question...

And its too bad that Deepak was picked up before Jamie could hook him up to a polygraph machine...

And, sometimes ~ when I'm really in a bad way about Aruba ~ I have to wonder if he was picked up to keep him from taking a polygraph exam from Jamie.  ::frown::