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« Reply #1080 on: June 13, 2010, 05:36:11 PM »

But ..OK Joran was not registered at this event..
Is it not strange that Joran is not registered at all with the organization that supports gambling tournaments world wide ?
I thought he was the big gambler and so was Paulus. ??

I guess not. Must all be about Bingo.
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« Reply #1081 on: June 13, 2010, 05:37:10 PM »

I am not a big gambler.. I loose 100.00 I am pissed for the rest of the day.. lol



I have won and lost thousands.  I don't find it odd at all that Stephany could win 5K or Joran could lose $25K

Me either.   And he had her targeted, fo sho.
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« Reply #1082 on: June 13, 2010, 05:39:36 PM »

In a casino, you can still play poker or blackjack, etc. while a poker tournament is going on elsewhere on the floor - I'm pretty sure.

Absolutely you can.  The tournament is usually held in the High Stakes area or in a roped off area of the casino.
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« Reply #1083 on: June 13, 2010, 05:41:33 PM »

But ..OK Joran was not registered at this event..
Is it not strange that Joran is not registered at all with the organization that supports gambling tournaments world wide ?
I thought he was the big gambler and so was Paulus. ??

I guess not. Must all be about Bingo.


Joran is a big ONLINE poker player and he is also a regular normal casino player.  Most people, even high rollers, don't enter tournaments.  I can see how there are tournament groupies though (like Joran) just wanting to rub elbows with the top players.
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« Reply #1084 on: June 13, 2010, 05:45:43 PM »

Thanks, y'all.  Watching TCU/Texas baseball. 
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« Reply #1085 on: June 13, 2010, 05:46:33 PM »

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/490245/2010/06/13/Stephany-mogelijk-gemarteld-om-pincodes.dhtml


Stephany possibly tortured for PINs " (meaning ATM pin codes)

UPDATE LIMA - Peruvian investigators take a serious note that Joran van der Sloot Stephany Flores has tortured the PINs of her credit cards to find out.

This is reported by various Peruvian news.

Greta Van Susteren, star reporter for U.S. broadcaster Fox announced on Wednesday that her Twitter Account Anita van der Sloot, Joran's mother, comes to Lima. Van Susteren suggests that "Dutch TV" travel pay.

Meanwhile, Joran a bad night in the infamous Castro Castro prison in Lima spent, report sources close to the previous gevangenis.Van are confident attitude would now little left. Joran would feel insecure and depressed behavior.

He just wanted to eat what the guards as a meal. So he was served chicken and rice, which he ate at the half.

Against the policemen told him: "I do not imprisoned in Peru. I'm afraid I killed, "says Peru's El Commercio website.

In his cell there was a mattress, but Joran chose the floor for the night to spend.

Van der Sloot is in a cell near the office of the Director. In that part of the prison he is in the company of a Colombian hit man and a mayor who has laundered money. (EBO)

06/13/1910 8:09 p.m.

Suppose Greta's aim is to interview Anita there as well ?   


Okay..now I get the statement from Anita that she is arriving with her own PR person.  It is not her own PR person it is Dutch TV..and they are picking up her tab and going over to Peru.   I suppose they are picking up her tab to get exclusive's from her.  Hope she doesn't mind when they diss her son.
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« Reply #1086 on: June 13, 2010, 05:47:37 PM »

I am not a big gambler.. I loose 100.00 I am pissed for the rest of the day.. lol


If I loose $20.00 I'm pissed for a week lol
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« Reply #1087 on: June 13, 2010, 05:49:10 PM »

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/490245/2010/06/13/Stephany-mogelijk-gemarteld-om-pincodes.dhtml


Stephany possibly tortured for PINs " (meaning ATM pin codes)

UPDATE LIMA - Peruvian investigators take a serious note that Joran van der Sloot Stephany Flores has tortured the PINs of her credit cards to find out.

This is reported by various Peruvian news.

Greta Van Susteren, star reporter for U.S. broadcaster Fox announced on Wednesday that her Twitter Account Anita van der Sloot, Joran's mother, comes to Lima. Van Susteren suggests that "Dutch TV" travel pay.

Meanwhile, Joran a bad night in the infamous Castro Castro prison in Lima spent, report sources close to the previous gevangenis.Van are confident attitude would now little left. Joran would feel insecure and depressed behavior.

He just wanted to eat what the guards as a meal. So he was served chicken and rice, which he ate at the half.

Against the policemen told him: "I do not imprisoned in Peru. I'm afraid I killed, "says Peru's El Commercio website.

In his cell there was a mattress, but Joran chose the floor for the night to spend.

Van der Sloot is in a cell near the office of the Director. In that part of the prison he is in the company of a Colombian hit man and a mayor who has laundered money. (EBO)

06/13/1910 8:09 p.m.

It took a while but I finally get it.

It is all beginning to make sense why Greta has been casting blame for Stephany's death on the FBI for not immediately acting on the extradiction of Joran following the sting.  Her silence implied she had given a pass to the Aruban enemy ... the Aruban enemy who has had an agenda to protect Joran since May 30, 2005.  Not once has Greta implied that maybe ... just maybe ... Joran was forewarned by Aruban authorities that to avoice extradition to the States he should ... as Klass would say ... "Get out of Dodge".

Janet

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Deadly Connection?
June 11, 2010


Kelly says he does not blame U.S. law enforcement for letting van der Sloot leave Aruba but wonders why the Arubans didn't arrest him as soon as they could.

JOHN KELLY: I think at the minimum, the Aruban authorities could've picked him up, and they had the ability to hold him there at that time.  It was their country, it was their island, it was their citizen. They controlled the port, and apparently, they knew he was leaving when he was leaving.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37650865/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/page/6/
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« Reply #1088 on: June 13, 2010, 05:49:55 PM »

I suppose the Dutch tv-network is SBS, that will be paying for Anita.
There will be another Joran-special on SBS this coming Wednesday.
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« Reply #1089 on: June 13, 2010, 05:51:23 PM »

I am not a big gambler.. I loose 100.00 I am pissed for the rest of the day.. lol


If I loose $20.00 I'm pissed for a week lol

I am p----- if I loose at a game a Scrabble.

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« Reply #1090 on: June 13, 2010, 05:52:39 PM »

MY LAST POST - SELF-EDIT

loose s/b lose
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« Reply #1091 on: June 13, 2010, 05:53:09 PM »

I suppose the Dutch tv-network is SBS, that will be paying for Anita.
There will be another Joran-special on SBS this coming Wednesday.

SBS huh?  Thanks Jo-An!
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« Reply #1092 on: June 13, 2010, 05:57:03 PM »

But ..OK Joran was not registered at this event..
Is it not strange that Joran is not registered at all with the organization that supports gambling tournaments world wide ?
I thought he was the big gambler and so was Paulus. ??

I guess not. Must all be about Bingo.


Joran is a big ONLINE poker player and he is also a regular normal casino player.  Most people, even high rollers, don't enter tournaments.  I can see how there are tournament groupies though (like Joran) just wanting to rub elbows with the top players.
I don't know if teh Atlantis closes at 5:00 am. I remember one time that my hubby was playing in the Atlantis and around 5:00 am the dealer told him that they will close the table (We thought they told us that because my husband was winning too much) I am not sure if the casino closes at 5:00am  but if you see the video you can tell that Stephany was really tired, I think that she enjoyed to compete in poker with real people.
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« Reply #1093 on: June 13, 2010, 06:01:09 PM »

But ..OK Joran was not registered at this event..
Is it not strange that Joran is not registered at all with the organization that supports gambling tournaments world wide ?
I thought he was the big gambler and so was Paulus. ??

I guess not. Must all be about Bingo.


Joran is a big ONLINE poker player and he is also a regular normal casino player.  Most people, even high rollers, don't enter tournaments.  I can see how there are tournament groupies though (like Joran) just wanting to rub elbows with the top players.

My friend's brother lost big time in terms of bucks playing Online Poker.  He almost lost the lottery he had been blessed with ... his family.  Gamble can become an addiction ... an addiction which implies that nothing else matters except the dream of winning.

I would not be surprised if the $25,000 extortion went to pay off gambling debts.  Think about it.  Joran was broke within days ... was broke by the time he reached Peru.

Janet
 
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« Reply #1094 on: June 13, 2010, 06:08:41 PM »

Just in case you haven't seen it- Joran's booking photo:

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« Reply #1095 on: June 13, 2010, 06:08:52 PM »

I suppose the Dutch tv-network is SBS, that will be paying for Anita.
There will be another Joran-special on SBS this coming Wednesday.

Hi Jo-An!  I'm glad you're here.  I hope you'll help me understand something.
I've been watching a video from the time when Paul Van der Sloot died.  At about the 3:40 mark on the video, Renee Gielen is interviewed from Curacao.  Does the screenshot from the video say she is a relative of the family?  If you have time to look at the video and listen to how they describe her that would be nice too.  

Thanks in advance for your help with this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmWo-rq_f-0

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1096 on: June 13, 2010, 06:13:45 PM »

Thanks, y'all.  Watching TCU/Texas baseball. 
YW tcumom!
We've been trying to watch the game too, but it's off and on...on right now.  We kept getting a message that it's not available in our area, but after a while it would come back on, lol.  My DH has been PO'd!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1097 on: June 13, 2010, 06:17:29 PM »

I suppose the Dutch tv-network is SBS, that will be paying for Anita.
There will be another Joran-special on SBS this coming Wednesday.

Hi Jo-An!  I'm glad you're here.  I hope you'll help me understand something.
I've been watching a video from the time when Paul Van der Sloot died.  At about the 3:40 mark on the video, Renee Gielen is interviewed from Curacao.  Does the screenshot from the video say she is a relative of the family?  If you have time to look at the video and listen to how they describe her that would be nice too.  

Thanks in advance for your help with this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmWo-rq_f-0



They say "a good acquaintance" of the family
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« Reply #1098 on: June 13, 2010, 06:21:16 PM »

I suppose the Dutch tv-network is SBS, that will be paying for Anita.
There will be another Joran-special on SBS this coming Wednesday.

Hi Jo-An!  I'm glad you're here.  I hope you'll help me understand something.
I've been watching a video from the time when Paul Van der Sloot died.  At about the 3:40 mark on the video, Renee Gielen is interviewed from Curacao.  Does the screenshot from the video say she is a relative of the family?  If you have time to look at the video and listen to how they describe her that would be nice too.  

Thanks in advance for your help with this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmWo-rq_f-0



They say "a good acquaintance" of the family

Thanks JE!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1099 on: June 13, 2010, 06:24:30 PM »

Has it been confirmed that Rene Gielen is the "media advisor" who will be accompanying Anita to Peru?

Janet

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Van der Sloot jailed on first-degree murder charge
The Associated Press
Friday Jun. 11, 2010 6:44 PM ET


Reached by the AP, Altez refused to discuss the case. He said Van der Sloot's schoolteacher mother, Anita, would be arriving early next week with the family's own media adviser.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/World/20100611/van-der-sloot-suspect-100611/


Pauw and Witteman
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(translated from Dutch)

Anita: I don't know, I have thought for a long time that she is alive, and there ahve been indications she is.  And those facts have to be investigated. Rene Gielen on Curacao is making a documentary, she has interviewed a lot a people, we know because she's in contact with us.  I really would like for the other side of the story to also be investigated.

http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/media/jorandevries.htm

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2767.msg370253;topicseen#msg370253


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