Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -6/14/10

[can]

I think Joran possibly took off Stefany's jeans in order to perform another indignity to this poor girl.  In order to do this, he had to remove her shoes first.  jmo

[Brandi]

Klaas, I forgot to thank you for posting the translation of his confession.

(I always mess them up

Thank you both!

It was quite the read!

[Edward]

According to Steph Watts radio show:

Dave has just arrived in Aruba.

Beth is on her way to Peru.

and the Kalpoop can't move off the rock because there passports have been revoked.

Steph.. I have seen him be wrong before.. So... what ever.

[can]

I think Joran possibly took off Stefany's jeans in order to perform another indignity to this poor girl.  In order to do this, he had to remove her shoes first.  jmo

meant to add...after removing her jeans he may have changed his mind,
and not carried out his intention. 

[Tamikosmom]

I think Joran possibly took off Stefany's jeans in order to perform another indignity to this poor girl.  In order to do this, he had to remove her shoes first.  jmo

meant to add...after removing her jeans he may have changed his mind,
and not carried out his intention. 

I agree.  Stephany was having her period.

Janet

[ozziesmom]

I think Joran possibly took off Stefany's jeans in order to perform another indignity to this poor girl.  In order to do this, he had to remove her shoes first.  jmo

I'm not so sure...he could have been trying to "set up" for the hotel worker to see what the "bandits" did while he went to "get coffee"..

Joran is a pig....

[JE]

I suppose the Dutch tv-network is SBS, that will be paying for Anita.
There will be another Joran-special on SBS this coming Wednesday.

They come around to SM quite often. I saw them looking up Kermit too.
go figger


Domain Name   (Unknown)  
IP Address   193.200.153.# (SBS Broadcasting) 
ISP   SBS Broadcasting 
Location   Continent  :  Europe 
Country  :  Netherlands  (Facts) 
State/Region  :  Gelderland 
City  :  Bennekom 
Lat/Long  :  52, 5.6833 (Map) 
Language   Dutch
nl 
Operating System   Microsoft WinXP 
Browser   Internet Explorer 7.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) 
Javascript   version 1.3 
Monitor   Resolution  :  1280 x 1024 
Color Depth  :  32 bits  
Time of Visit   Dec 10 2009 2:07:27 pm 

Using the lat long coordinates this is the address that came from dont look like a sbs building to me

[cece]

Klaas, I forgot to thank you for posting the translation of his confession.

(I always mess them up

Thank you both!

It was quite the read!

[carpe noctem]

You know it`s coming.

[ozziesmom]

You know it`s coming.

LMAO!!!!! That's GREAT!

[cw618]

I think Joran possibly took off Stefany's jeans in order to perform another indignity to this poor girl.  In order to do this, he had to remove her shoes first.  jmo

meant to add...after removing her jeans he may have changed his mind,
and not carried out his intention. 

only because he prob didnt have a condom,he was worried about DNA,but duh,
 he still left evidence all over this murder, because it was an uncontrolled murder
ive always believed that Natalee murder, was planned, and prob not his first, but
Stefany will be the last
is there a world wide database for DNA of unsolved crimes
like run Js through it and see if his DNA is someplace else, and connected to a crime

[nonesuche]

You know it`s coming.

now that's a photo that will keep the K2 up nights and Nadira too! lol

[Shell]

I thought she was found with her pants and shoes off?

That's what I think. She had on a t-shirt, underwear and a white shirt draped over her. No pants or shoes. The way I read that, it sounded like he took off her pants and shoes after she was dead.

Made me go hmm...if so he might really have gotten kinky

[cece]

June 13, 2010 | 7:56 PM ET
pics from interview with Stephany's family





June 13, 2010 | 8:10 PM ET
more pics (near prison)





http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/

[flutter1]

Kermit -

Thanks for the explanation as to who Jan Brennan is and the aliases of some of the players and their RU ID's. 
I have a handle for which ones are the Holloway Haters, but I didn't know their true identities 

[nonesuche]

June 13, 2010 | 7:56 PM ET
pics from interview with Stephany's family





June 13, 2010 | 8:10 PM ET
more pics (near prison)





http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/

let's hope she can't look into the eyes of that family and still defend Joran, I pray not.

[can]

I think Joran possibly took off Stefany's jeans in order to perform another indignity to this poor girl.  In order to do this, he had to remove her shoes first.  jmo

meant to add...after removing her jeans he may have changed his mind,
and not carried out his intention. 

I agree.  Stephany was having her period.

Janet

and/or maybe he was coming down from his rage and realized he had to plan his next action.  He couldn't have known if other hotel guests or employees might have heard a commotion, or if an employee might come knocking on his door any minute.

[Kermit]

I suppose the Dutch tv-network is SBS, that will be paying for Anita.
There will be another Joran-special on SBS this coming Wednesday.

They come around to SM quite often. I saw them looking up Kermit too.
go figger


Domain Name   (Unknown)  
IP Address   193.200.153.# (SBS Broadcasting) 
ISP   SBS Broadcasting 
Location   Continent  :  Europe 
Country  :  Netherlands  (Facts) 
State/Region  :  Gelderland 
City  :  Bennekom 
Lat/Long  :  52, 5.6833 (Map) 
Language   Dutch
nl 
Operating System   Microsoft WinXP 
Browser   Internet Explorer 7.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) 
Javascript   version 1.3 
Monitor   Resolution  :  1280 x 1024 
Color Depth  :  32 bits  
Time of Visit   Dec 10 2009 2:07:27 pm 

Using the lat long coordinates this is the address that came from dont look like a sbs building to me

That looks like homes to me. Nice area.

[can]

I think Joran possibly took off Stefany's jeans in order to perform another indignity to this poor girl.  In order to do this, he had to remove her shoes first.  jmo

I'm not so sure...he could have been trying to "set up" for the hotel worker to see what the "bandits" did while he went to "get coffee"..

Joran is a pig....

that's also possible.

[Tamikosmom]

According to Steph Watts radio show:

Dave has just arrived in Aruba.

Beth is on her way to Peru.

and the Kalpoop can't move off the rock because there passports have been revoked.

Steph.. I have seen him be wrong before.. So... what ever.

Why?

Do Aruban/Dutch authorities fear that coming to the States to be deposed in the Phil McGraw defamation lawsuit ... the Kalpoes will reveal ALL they have knowledge of in regards to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway?

Do Aruban/Dtuch authorities fear that coming to the States to be deposed in the Phil McGraw defamation lawsuit ... the Kalpoes will reveal ALL they have knowledge of in regards to those who participated in the cover up ... the cover up that has denied Natalee justice for five long years?

Do Aruban/Dutch authorities fear that while in the States ... the Kalpoes may seek asylum?

Somehow I believe that when all is said and done ... Joran, Deepak and Satish will be sacrificed and ... the Aruban house of cards will not collapse ... it will remain standing.

Janet

++++++


ART WOOD:

The reason this case could still be solved is because there are so many people involved in Natalee’s disappearance and in the disposal of her body. When somebody talks, they’re going to all go down. This is like a house of cards.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/