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« Reply #1260 on: June 13, 2010, 10:29:13 PM »
Quote from: Gypsy DD on June 13, 2010, 10:27:20 PM
Quote from: akmom on June 13, 2010, 10:17:30 PM
Geraldo reporting Joran has fired his lawyer.

His current lawyer..or the one he had previous from his arrest?

 How can he fire a lawyer in Castro Castro..unless the lawyer visited him and he said, you are fired..Mommy is on the way!

Current...Maximo whatever
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« Reply #1261 on: June 13, 2010, 10:30:16 PM »
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« Reply #1262 on: June 13, 2010, 10:30:18 PM »
Craig said Dave's in really bad shape-as bad as when he first found out about Natalee;Something is up, y'all...
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« Reply #1263 on: June 13, 2010, 10:33:16 PM »
Quote from: Ono on June 13, 2010, 10:30:18 PM
Craig said Dave's in really bad shape-as bad as when he first found out about Natalee;Something is up, y'all...

Hang in there, Dave. There will be an end to all this madness.
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« Reply #1264 on: June 13, 2010, 10:34:13 PM »

Thank you, 2NJ!

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Please light a candle remembering Natalee and her family's quest for answers.  Since two were created, you may use one or both.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=NAH

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Light 'em up, folks.  Lets get her home!!
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« Reply #1265 on: June 13, 2010, 10:34:33 PM »
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 13, 2010, 10:33:16 PM
Quote from: Ono on June 13, 2010, 10:30:18 PM
Craig said Dave's in really bad shape-as bad as when he first found out about Natalee;Something is up, y'all...

Hang in there, Dave. There will be an end to all this madness.

What show is this on?  I would like to watch too.
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« Reply #1266 on: June 13, 2010, 10:35:19 PM »
Quote from: akmom on June 13, 2010, 10:29:13 PM
Quote from: Gypsy DD on June 13, 2010, 10:27:20 PM
Quote from: akmom on June 13, 2010, 10:17:30 PM
Geraldo reporting Joran has fired his lawyer.

His current lawyer..or the one he had previous from his arrest?

 How can he fire a lawyer in Castro Castro..unless the lawyer visited him and he said, you are fired..Mommy is on the way!

Current...Maximo whatever

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« Reply #1267 on: June 13, 2010, 10:36:47 PM »
Quote from: Gypsy DD on June 13, 2010, 10:34:33 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 13, 2010, 10:33:16 PM
Quote from: Ono on June 13, 2010, 10:30:18 PM
Craig said Dave's in really bad shape-as bad as when he first found out about Natalee;Something is up, y'all...

Hang in there, Dave. There will be an end to all this madness.

What show is this on?  I would like to watch too.

It was Geraldo on Fox, they are done for now with the coverage, don't know if there will be more.  Jug told Craig he thought Nat might have been in their car the next day and he wishes that would have been checked.  I have never heard that before.  I thought they were seen washing the car out that night in the middle of the night, by neighbors???
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« Reply #1268 on: June 13, 2010, 10:37:29 PM »
Quote from: akmom on June 13, 2010, 10:36:47 PM
Quote from: Gypsy DD on June 13, 2010, 10:34:33 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 13, 2010, 10:33:16 PM
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Craig said Dave's in really bad shape-as bad as when he first found out about Natalee;Something is up, y'all...

Hang in there, Dave. There will be an end to all this madness.

What show is this on?  I would like to watch too.

It was Geraldo on Fox, they are done for now with the coverage, don't know if there will be more.  Jug told Craig he thought Nat might have been in their car the next day and he wishes that would have been checked.  I have never heard that before.  I thought they were seen washing the car out that night in the middle of the night, by neighbors???

Sorry Kalpoe car
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« Reply #1269 on: June 13, 2010, 10:40:25 PM »
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I think Joran possibly took off Stefany's jeans in order to perform another indignity to this poor girl.  In order to do this, he had to remove her shoes first.  jmo


meant to add...after removing her jeans he may have changed his mind,
and not carried out his intention. 

That big old "K" word.
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« Reply #1270 on: June 13, 2010, 10:41:16 PM »
You mean this one?
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« Reply #1271 on: June 13, 2010, 10:44:26 PM »
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You know it`s coming.

Oh, how did we ever do without your wit here, Carpe.  These are priceless.
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« Reply #1272 on: June 13, 2010, 10:45:21 PM »
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 13, 2010, 10:41:16 PM
You mean this one?




Do you know when that was from???  I remember when Greta went to Aruba, she did a whole segment where she was down a house or two from the Kalpoe's and the neighbor had said they were cleaning the car, washing the inside even in the middle of the night.
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« Reply #1273 on: June 13, 2010, 10:47:49 PM »
Quote from: akmom on June 13, 2010, 10:36:47 PM
Quote from: Gypsy DD on June 13, 2010, 10:34:33 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 13, 2010, 10:33:16 PM
Quote from: Ono on June 13, 2010, 10:30:18 PM
Craig said Dave's in really bad shape-as bad as when he first found out about Natalee;Something is up, y'all...

Hang in there, Dave. There will be an end to all this madness.

What show is this on?  I would like to watch too.

It was Geraldo on Fox, they are done for now with the coverage, don't know if there will be more.  Jug told Craig he thought Nat might have been in their car the next day and he wishes that would have been checked.  I have never heard that before.  I thought they were seen washing the car out that night in the middle of the night, by neighbors???

Jug is referring to when they went to the VDS home with Beth, and thier friends once they found out who she left the HI with...He said it on an interview when Joran was first found, he thought she was in the truck of the car, but Paulus said they were at the Casino, Jug said they werent dressed like they were at any casino....I can't remember which site it's on.....sorry
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« Reply #1274 on: June 13, 2010, 10:48:28 PM »
Quote from: can on June 13, 2010, 08:54:05 PM
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Quote from: can on June 13, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Quote from: can on June 13, 2010, 08:19:00 PM
I think Joran possibly took off Stefany's jeans in order to perform another indignity to this poor girl.  In order to do this, he had to remove her shoes first.  jmo


meant to add...after removing her jeans he may have changed his mind,
and not carried out his intention. 

only because he prob didnt have a condom,he was worried about DNA,but duh,
 he still left evidence all over this murder, because it was an uncontrolled murder
ive always believed that Natalee murder, was planned, and prob not his first, but
Stefany will be the last
is there a world wide database for DNA of unsolved crimes
like run Js through it and see if his DNA is someplace else, and connected to a crime
I think Natalee's case was probably similar to Stefanys.  Once she was severely injured he made sure she would never be able to report him.
It wouldn't surprise me if there were many raped/drugged girls before Natalee.
Not sure about world database - but Joran's DNA is certainly availble now.
When it was taken in Natalee's case, I believe it was thrown out on some legal technicality Aruba style.

Kalpoe's said it was easy, had been done many times.  I cannot for the life of me recall how many, but my guess would be they were the only thing that separated the victim from death, if Joran was involved and became angry.  It seems to me they wanted to be players, perhaps not murderers.
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« Reply #1275 on: June 13, 2010, 10:48:37 PM »
Quote from: Edward on June 13, 2010, 08:05:22 PM
Experimenting in the world of cross dresser ?

I doubt it.. He was actually thinking HE could dress up in her clothes and walk by the cameras and then later say "She Left the Building"
His size//Her size and his stupidity would not allow for it so he gave up his brilliant brainstorm and RAN.

LOL, they asked him why he took off her pants and shoes and he said he did not know.
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« Reply #1276 on: June 13, 2010, 10:49:25 PM »
Geraldo did have the "bombshell" that Joran fired his attorney today arund 1 pm.

I wonder why Joran did this.  I think Joran would see it as the lawyer's job to have kept him out of Castro Castro and since he didn't do that, Joran fired him.  Also the lawyer may have had the audacity to tell Joran that no one can prevent his serving his sentence there and that his chances of getting back to Aruba are slim to none.

Also had interview with Jug who seemed very animated and rather upbeat.  Then Craig in Aruba said Dave was just as upset as when he first learned Natalee had been taken.

That's about all that was said.  Maybe he will do another short segment before the end of the show.  For any who want to see it, Geraldo airs again at 12 CDT.

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« Reply #1277 on: June 13, 2010, 10:49:35 PM »
Quote from: Tamikosmom on June 13, 2010, 08:54:35 PM
Quote from: Kermit on June 13, 2010, 08:50:58 PM
Quote from: flutter1 on June 13, 2010, 08:41:04 PM
Kermit -

Thanks for the explanation as to who Jan Brennan is and the aliases of some of the players and their RU ID's. 
I have a handle for which ones are the Holloway Haters, but I didn't know their true identities  Wink


You are most welcome.

Interesting that John Q. Kelly was in Aruba on Easter meeting with Joran at the Marriott Hotel and Jan Brennan was in Aruba too with Joran and van der Sloots. Jan Brennan said they are "the salt of the earth".






Oh, yes, I have no doubt.  My soil has been poisoned from too much salt and I am sure the earth has been spoiled as a result of the vanderSloot salt.
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« Reply #1278 on: June 13, 2010, 10:51:06 PM »
Quote from: akmom on June 13, 2010, 10:45:21 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 13, 2010, 10:41:16 PM
You mean this one?




Do you know when that was from???  I remember when Greta went to Aruba, she did a whole segment where she was down a house or two from the Kalpoe's and the neighbor had said they were cleaning the car, washing the inside even in the middle of the night.

This one is from the first week to two weeks of June 2005.

Greta`s video of the Kalpoe Honda came later - way later.
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« Reply #1279 on: June 13, 2010, 10:51:27 PM »
Quote from: ozziesmom on June 13, 2010, 10:47:49 PM
Quote from: akmom on June 13, 2010, 10:36:47 PM
Quote from: Gypsy DD on June 13, 2010, 10:34:33 PM
Quote from: carpe noctem on June 13, 2010, 10:33:16 PM
Quote from: Ono on June 13, 2010, 10:30:18 PM
Craig said Dave's in really bad shape-as bad as when he first found out about Natalee;Something is up, y'all...

Hang in there, Dave. There will be an end to all this madness.

What show is this on?  I would like to watch too.

It was Geraldo on Fox, they are done for now with the coverage, don't know if there will be more.  Jug told Craig he thought Nat might have been in their car the next day and he wishes that would have been checked.  I have never heard that before.  I thought they were seen washing the car out that night in the middle of the night, by neighbors???

Jug is referring to when they went to the VDS home with Beth, and thier friends once they found out who she left the HI with...He said it on an interview when Joran was first found, he thought she was in the truck of the car, but Paulus said they were at the Casino, Jug said they werent dressed like they were at any casino....I can't remember which site it's on.....sorry

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Exclusive-interview-Jug-Twitty/Vp7af3v-ykaT6VJjG9tGxQ.cspx

Found it
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