Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -6/14/10

[SunnyinTX]

CNN just had Jean C on who is in Peru.  She spoke to Urine's former lawyer the Highest Maximus.  He said he wanted OFF the case.  Case has a load of problems.  If she wanted to know more talk to the family as they are in control and are looking for another private lawyer to take the case.  If they can not find one then he gets assigned a public defender.

Highest Maximus is washing his hands of it by the sounds of things. 

thanks NR...sure would like to know who/what he meant by the family?   who besides Anita......someone in the Netherlands with some PULL is my best guess

[Ono]

I tend to think that if Beth does travel to Peru, it will be a very low-profile private visit in deference to the Flores' family, as they are in profound mourning. 

[Spock]

Friday 26 February 2010

American teenager Natalee Holloway was killed after falling off a balcony at a friend's home after drinking whisky and taking cocaine, main suspect Joran van der Sloot is reported as saying in a German tv interview.



The article says he told the specific street address of the party. Do we know whose hime he said he took Natalee to?

[Northern Rose]

and has limited access to funds in a prison where he must pay for his own food.

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He should have caught all the food people were throwing at him.  The Peruvians were just trying to help him ))))

[Northern Rose]

CNN just had Jean C on who is in Peru.  She spoke to Urine's former lawyer the Highest Maximus.  He said he wanted OFF the case.  Case has a load of problems.  If she wanted to know more talk to the family as they are in control and are looking for another private lawyer to take the case.  If they can not find one then he gets assigned a public defender.

Highest Maximus is washing his hands of it by the sounds of things. 

thanks NR...sure would like to know who/what he meant by the family?   who besides Anita......someone in the Netherlands with some PULL is my best guess

Anita is probably going through Paulus's rolodex and not getting the response she wants from all his contacts.  (between Bollywood and Gere fawning of course)

[Ono]

Van der Sloot’s confession in the murder of Stephany Flores has been enough for many to assume his guilt in the Holloway case as well. But it is unlikely that Van der Sloot will ever return to Aruba to face justice there–at least not in the near future. The attorney general in Aruba says that now that Van der Sloot has been charged and remanded for murder in Peru, they have to wait until after his trial—and perhaps until after his sentence ends—to question him again in the Aruba case. There is no extradition agreement between Peru and the Netherlands Antilles, and Aruban investigators have so far been denied access to van der Sloot.

There is currently no direct line of communication coming out of Peru, and Aruban investigators have admitted they have to rely on media reports to follow developments in the case. “Understandably, the Peruvians are concentrating on the death of their national first,” Taco Stein, attorney general for Aruba, told The Daily Beast. “We hope that once a trial has been fixed, we can initiate the proper channels to formally talk to him once again.”


Access denied. C-ya when I see ya!

http://foreign.peacefmonline.com/entertainment/201006/47973.php

The Peruvians are wise.

[SunnyinTX]

None, of course the age of the computer makes a great deal of difference.  If he's used this laptop for some time, for years, it will have a lot of info on it.  Daddy Sloot may have been careful, but he couldn't control Joran after he left Aruba for the Netherlands.  Joran was a boastful braggart.  I believe the info is there.  Why else is Beth going to Peru? 

AZLady, of course you are correct. So sorry to have posted a differing opinion.

Have a great day !

I don't know if I'm correct, but I'd like to discuss this with anyone who might help me understand it better.  It just seems very odd that Beth is going to Peru, at least it is to me.  I welcome any other ideas.

Am I correct in saying that Steph is the only person who mentioned Beth going to Peru?  I am reading everyone's thoughts about it...but I am not going to speculate until/unless it is a fact.....anyone know for sure???

I don't know Sunny.

thanks Ono.....guess we just have to wait and see....<shrugging shoulders>

[Jules34]

Friday 26 February 2010

American teenager Natalee Holloway was killed after falling off a balcony at a friend's home after drinking whisky and taking cocaine, main suspect Joran van der Sloot is reported as saying in a German tv interview.



The article says he told the specific street address of the party. Do we know whose hime he said he took Natalee to?

I forgot he said Natalee took cocaine too. Didn't he say Stephany took cocaine and her autopsy proved otherwise? If so, he's remarkably consistent in his lies between the two cases, as I read someone else here say over the weekend.

[Jo-An]

Van der Sloot’s confession in the murder of Stephany Flores has been enough for many to assume his guilt in the Holloway case as well. But it is unlikely that Van der Sloot will ever return to Aruba to face justice there–at least not in the near future. The attorney general in Aruba says that now that Van der Sloot has been charged and remanded for murder in Peru, they have to wait until after his trial—and perhaps until after his sentence ends—to question him again in the Aruba case. There is no extradition agreement between Peru and the Netherlands Antilles, and Aruban investigators have so far been denied access to van der Sloot.

There is currently no direct line of communication coming out of Peru, and Aruban investigators have admitted they have to rely on media reports to follow developments in the case. “Understandably, the Peruvians are concentrating on the death of their national first,” Taco Stein, attorney general for Aruba, told The Daily Beast. “We hope that once a trial has been fixed, we can initiate the proper channels to formally talk to him once again.”


Access denied. C-ya when I see ya!

http://foreign.peacefmonline.com/entertainment/201006/47973.php

The Peruvians are wise.

[SunnyinTX]

Video where Uri Geller explains the Joran story about the money he supposedly gave him:

http://www.shownieuws.tv/web/show/id=186466/langid=43/contentid=188182

thanks Jo-An

[carpe noctem]

I`ve seen a report Anita will be in Peru Tuesday with Dutch reporters.

I`ve seen a report that the she decided she will not be able to go.

It is like one long ping pong match.

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If I were a Dutch reporter, you could not pay me enough to go with her.

Talk about having to keep your head on a swivel! Zoinksssss

[robots]

perhaps the reason he took of her clothes, was because he may have wanted to put the clothes a couple miles away,, and make it look like she was abducted


who knows,  but he is stupid and yet at the same time devious

if he could have found a way to disable the cameras.......

i hate him and his whole family

[SurfCity]

Sorry if this is a repost. MSNBC- Dateline last night had a show on regarding the case. They interviewed a witness (Roberto Blades) who claimed that he was sitting next to Joran before Stephany showed up.

ROBERTO BLADES: I see this guy walking up.  You know, he's tall, so I see him and I’m like “that’s this guy.”

It was just all too strange. Twice-arrested,  never-charged,  Joran van der Sloot was the chief suspect in the Natalee Holloway case.

It sounds like a chapter ripped from some dime store novel,  or some weird case of déjà-vu. But it happened here, at the Atlantic City casino in Lima. And what may have been a sign of impending danger may have come in the early morning hours of Saturday, May 29.

A poker-playing, self-styled playboy, with a notorious past, Joran van der Sloot sauntered into the casino and hit the  tables.

A salsa singer visiting from Miami, Roberto Blades, says the 22-year-old sat down beside him.  And says he couldn't believe the way van der Sloot was acting.

CHRIS HANSEN: So you're at the poker table.  Joren van der Sloot is next to you and a buddy of his comes up and they start talking about picking up girls.

BLADES: Like “hurry up.  We're running out of time to pick up chicks” and a little bit more demeaning that way.  Actually, I got really angry.

CHRIS HANSEN: Why?

BLADES: I remember the case in Aruba he had a couple of buddies and I’m starting to see like a pattern.  And I’m just bewildered. I'm like, “this guy’ss walking around talking about women in a very bad way.”

At the poker table, Blades says,  he became so concerned, he got up and complained.

BLADES: So then I get up and I go to the guy who heads the poker room.  I approach him and I call him and I go “come over here” and I grab him and I say “do you know who that guy sitting next to me is?” And he looks over and he's like “no.” And I said “that’s the guy, that guy’s a murderer. That’s the guy that killed a girl in Aruba.”

The casino management says there's no evidence that Blades pointed van der Sloot out to its staff.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37650865/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/

[Jo-An]

I`ve seen a report Anita will be in Peru Tuesday with Dutch reporters.

I`ve seen a report that the she decided she will not be able to go.

It is like one long ping pong match.

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If I were a Dutch reporter, you could not pay me enough to go with her.

Talk about having to keep your head on a swivel! Zoinksssss

This is what Anita sent Joran:

Anita van der Sloot sent the following message to her son Joran: "Since I've heard of your problems in Peru, people continue to call me. Be strong and courageous and trust God, then everything will be fine. I can not travel. "

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/490245/2010/06/14/Stephany-mogelijk-gemarteld-om-pincodes.dhtml

Everything will be fine.... yeah right...

[carpe noctem]

Friday 26 February 2010

American teenager Natalee Holloway was killed after falling off a balcony at a friend's home after drinking whisky and taking cocaine, main suspect Joran van der Sloot is reported as saying in a German tv interview.



The article says he told the specific street address of the party. Do we know whose hime he said he took Natalee to?

I forgot he said Natalee took cocaine too. Didn't he say Stephany took cocaine and her autopsy proved otherwise? If so, he's remarkably consistent in his lies between the two cases, as I read someone else here say over the weekend.

Spock -

I think he gave his typical generic clues to point you to a specific person without saying the name.

I believe his clues led us to Andre Santos.

[Jo-An]

Video where Uri Geller explains the Joran story about the money he supposedly gave him:

http://www.shownieuws.tv/web/show/id=186466/langid=43/contentid=188182

thanks Jo-An

Were you able to watch it? Some videos can't be watched abroad.

[robots]

she is a bag

[littletxlady]

perhaps the reason he took of her clothes, was because he may have wanted to put the clothes a couple miles away,, and make it look like she was abducted


who knows,  but he is stupid and yet at the same time devious

if he could have found a way to disable the cameras.......

i hate him and his whole family

robots, I think JVDS was going to rape her and discovered she was on her period

[Edward]

None, of course the age of the computer makes a great deal of difference.  If he's used this laptop for some time, for years, it will have a lot of info on it.  Daddy Sloot may have been careful, but he couldn't control Joran after he left Aruba for the Netherlands.  Joran was a boastful braggart.  I believe the info is there.  Why else is Beth going to Peru? 

AZLady, of course you are correct. So sorry to have posted a differing opinion.

Have a great day !

I don't know if I'm correct, but I'd like to discuss this with anyone who might help me understand it better.  It just seems very odd that Beth is going to Peru, at least it is to me.  I welcome any other ideas.

Beth is on Greta's ticket.. A free ride to visit insanity and in hopes that Joran will tell Beth where to find Natalee.
jmho

I think anything any of us think at this time is a possibility......if in fact Beth is going to Peru.

When Carrie called me and told me she was going to attempt to talk face to face with John Gardner who murdered her daughter, I thought what an insane idea as he will just tell lies to hurt Carrie.. To my surprise he broke down and told her the whole truth on what happened.

Joran may very well tell Beth the whole truth now... and both Carrie and Beth have the same kind of personality and assertiveness in there nature to stay calm and ask the right questions and accept the answer.
Beth can do this.

[SunnyinTX]

I`ve seen a report Anita will be in Peru Tuesday with Dutch reporters.

I`ve seen a report that the she decided she will not be able to go.

It is like one long ping pong match.

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If I were a Dutch reporter, you could not pay me enough to go with her.

Talk about having to keep your head on a swivel! Zoinksssss

This is what Anita sent Joran:

Anita van der Sloot sent the following message to her son Joran: "Since I've heard of your problems in Peru, people continue to call me. Be strong and courageous and trust God, then everything will be fine. I can not travel. "

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/490245/2010/06/14/Stephany-mogelijk-gemarteld-om-pincodes.dhtml

Everything will be fine.... yeah right...

you gotta be kidding............everything will be fine..........HOLEY CRAP!!!