Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -6/14/10

[Edward]

Joran van der Sloot very much loved by fellow inmates.

http://www.indedelta.nl/?p=572

[Jerseygirl345]

A report is in on the confession.

In his testimony to police, the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (22) confessed to killing Flores Stephany Ramirez (21) after she saw an e-mail incriminating on the case Natalee Holloway .


http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fperu21.pe%2Fnoticia%2F493316%2Fvan-der-sloot-ya-esta-camino-penal&sl=es&tl=en

[SunnyinTX]

I have never seen any proof of a toxicology report or related drug test out of Chile.
I do not think they did one, they just held onto Joran and dropped his happy ass off at the border.

Neither can I recall any toxicology report.  I DO recall, though, reports that VDS claimed to have been under the influence at the time of the homicide.  Such a claim might well be false.  Under many legal systems, intoxication is considered a mitigating circumstance, lessening a perpetrator's culpability -- and corresponding punishment -- for the commission of an illegal act.  Making such a false claim during the course of his confession would be thoroughly in keeping with VDS' manipulative nature. 

There was a toxicology report that stated that Joran tested positive for cocaine and marihuana and also that Stephany tested positive for drugs. So maybe he wasn't tested in Chile, but as soon as he arrived in Lima, where he was undergoing medical tests.

Although Joran van der Sloot to the Peruvian police had admitted that he "occasionally" used marijuana, according to a toxicological study that he not only marijuana, but cocaine was used. The last he had to the Peruvian authorities concealed.

According to the Peruvian site Trome.com there are drug traces in the body of the murdered Stephany Flores found.

http://nieuws.nl.msn.com/algemeen/article.aspx?cp-documentid=153704439

     That's interesting.  There was a report out today that toxicology concludes that VDS was NOT under the influence of illegal drugs at the time of the murder.  Whom do we believe? 

http://abcnews.go.com/International/Media/joren-van-der-sloot-high-night-peru-killing/story?id=10893791

Wow, that's really weird.
But there have been so many contradictions in this case... it's mindboggling!

Jo-An I agree....I wish either Mark Furman or someone with his credentials did all the reporting......I am to the point to where I don;t believe much of anything I read.....

[texasmom]

Texasmom..
Too Much to repost...lol

When he told me about a nasty smell for about two weeks around the construction site of the Marriott

Does everyone remember this ?? It is one of the most important part of searching for a dead body.
The sense of smell.

I was under the impression that Searchers looked into this.

I recall one search of what I think was an abandoned hotel or apartment complex where there was a smell that prompted the search.  IIRC the end result reported was dead dogs.  

[Jerseygirl345]

A report is in on the confession.

In his testimony to police, the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (22) confessed to killing Flores Stephany Ramirez (21) after she saw an e-mail incriminating on the case Natalee Holloway .


http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fperu21.pe%2Fnoticia%2F493316%2Fvan-der-sloot-ya-esta-camino-penal&sl=es&tl=en

Go to this page and then click on read more and click on number 2..

[carpe noctem]

Oh looky, they decorated him with blue eye shadow!!!!

It reminds me of the Greta interview. He looked like Madame the effing Muppet.

[texasmom]

Joran van der Sloot very much loved by fellow inmates.

http://www.indedelta.nl/?p=572

LOL

[carpe noctem]

[klaasend]

Joran van der Sloot very much loved by fellow inmates.

http://www.indedelta.nl/?p=572

LOL, Brandi posted a similar one yesterday! 

[MuffyBee]

NOTE:  PLEASE TAKE ANY FURTHER OT CONCERNING SAILING AND ETC. TO MUSINGS.  IT WAS OKAY WHEN SOMEONE POSTED THAT THE YOUNG LADY SAILOR HAD BEEN RESCUED, BUT THE CONTINUING DISCUSSION HAS GONE ON WAY TOO LONG.  LET'S GET BACK ON TOPIC. 

[IBE]

Police General Cesar Guardia:

"He gave her a ferocious beating and took the life of a young Peruvian. In doing so he has injured the whole country and he will face justice."

http://abcnews.go.com/International/Media/joren-van-der-sloot-high-night-peru-killing/story?id=10893791&page=2

I hope it comes out just who Joran is related to. It is bloody obvious that all of the political hype is not simply over a run of the mill Dutch boy turned homicidal maniac.

I read that he destroyed that villa that he rented in Thailand so badly that the landlady went to the
Dutch Embassy and filed a complaint.  His uncle came and paid the money for the repairs.  I wondered
just who the uncle was.

If I remember correctly, and it has been a long time ago, Paulus had a brother that was very active in politics in the NL. Had been elected to a position that I thought of the time was like our Congress. Info is on a down computer.

Anita has political relatives there too.

[Edward]

Texasmom..
Too Much to repost...lol

When he told me about a nasty smell for about two weeks around the construction site of the Marriott

Does everyone remember this ?? It is one of the most important part of searching for a dead body.
The sense of smell.

I was under the impression that Searchers looked into this.

I recall one search of what I think was an abandoned hotel or apartment complex where there was a smell that prompted the search.  IIRC the end result reported was dead dogs.  

There was dead animals at at least one location and septic odors at some too..
There was much discussion of Natalee being inside of a septic system associated to a hotel.

[klaasend]

MUFFY is correct.  Too much going on in this case, no need for O/T here as well.

[SunnyinTX]

I sent Rob a text message earlier about the dude who died of a heart attack.. Perhaps he will pop in sometime,.. havn't see a post from him in a few days.. actually its taken forever for me to read and catch up.. I'm sick..
Still in PJ's.. had to call off work even. 

Thanks Angie!

Get well soon!  (((hugs)))

 You're welcome ~!  TY for the well wishes.. I am tired of huggin the toilet.. 

Angie, hope you are feeling better by now.......

[Edward]

MUFFY is correct.  Too much going on in this case, no need for O/T here as well.

My Bad.. I started it ..
I apologise and wont do it again..

[wreck]

Texasmom..
Too Much to repost...lol

When he told me about a nasty smell for about two weeks around the construction site of the Marriott

Does everyone remember this ?? It is one of the most important part of searching for a dead body.
The sense of smell.

I was under the impression that Searchers looked into this.

I was under the impression the "searchers" didn't check squat! His "theory" is as plausible as any. So he saying the "Marriott" had construction going on and she is "buried" there? I'm unclear. I don't think she could have been there for 2 weeks. I could believe she was there temporarily before being moved. I don't know why it would "smell" for 2 weeks though.

[carpe noctem]

The Marriott was definitely a hot spot. After the murder - Anita warned the boys to stay away from that area. Now, why would you do that Anita?

[Edward]

Maybe ALE will go over and look into it.
They look like they have egg on their faces and now the Dario is posting interesting things again..

Maybe Jossy will come chat with us and let us know what the hell is going on with Aruba today.

[Tamikosmom]

Did we ever find out who CAPSLOCKWIZARD was?

CAPSLOCKWIZARD REVEALED

Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 -
« Reply #736 on: May 17, 2010, 04:14:27 PM »

From: capslockwizard@hotmail.com
To: daveholloway@xxxxxx
Subject: RE: Nathalee possible buried place
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:18:15 -0500

Hi Dave,

<snipped>

About Me:
Name: Rudolf H. Vrolijk
Address: Shiribana 6, Aruba
Email: ((edit - personal email addy))
Email: capslockwizard@hotmail.com
Phone:  297-746-7000

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7363.720

and he is scary ugly.............http://my.opera.com/vrolijkr/about/

The outward appearance of Rudolf H. Vrolijk does not concern me ... only the heart and ...  Rudolf H. Vrolijk has one ugly heart.

Janet

+++++


Rudolf H. Vrolijk AKA CapsLockWizard AKA Anonimo

Now Aruban Prosecutor Says “Holloway case in ‘new phase” … New Phase of not Investigating
Posted December 22, 2007 by Scared Monkeys

22.Anonimo on December 22nd, 2007 11:17 pm

But first ask your self this question ? why is Beth and Jug no longer together. I, too, have asked that question. I think Jug butted out when Beth went running all over the country promoting this International Safe Travels thing. She lost a lot of her support here. ......

IS IT THAT THIS IS ALL A FABRICATION FOR AN INSURANCE CLAIM AFTER 5 OR 10 YEARS?  Where the players are all connected and waiting for time to tick away to 2010.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/12/22/now-aruban-prosecutor-says-holloway-case-in-new-phase-new-phase-of-not-investigating/


Now Aruban Prosecutor Says “Holloway case in ‘new phase” … New Phase of not Investigating
Posted December 22, 2007 by Scared Monkeys

41.  Anonimo on December 23rd, 2007 1:48 am
 
I am a Logic Professor and I am telling you all that from both side of the coin there is events that do not compute and follows normal nature course. From the 3 kids and the father there is defently manipolation of the Law Book. no doubt about that. But from the Famaly and the account of what was going on in Aruba, This women never show a tear for her daughter in Aruba.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/12/22/now-aruban-prosecutor-says-holloway-case-in-new-phase-new-phase-of-not-investigating/




Klaasend - Scared Monkeys

[klaasend]

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/490120/2010/06/12/Joran-naar-Aruba-in-ruil-voor-Holloway.dhtml

Through translator:




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