Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -6/14/10

[no rose colored glasses]

Somehow I must have missed this, why would Aruba host a film festival, and of all things a Bollywood night  LOL  Is Aruba the place too go to make low budget films?

[klaasend]

Somehow I must have missed this, why would Aruba host a film festival, and of all things a Bollywood night  LOL  Is Aruba the place too go to make low budget films?

AIFF - Aruba International Film Festival

Yes, Aruba has always been a low budget everything

[Blonde]

[/i]"I do not want to be imprisoned in Peru. I have fear to kill me, "sobbed the confessed murderer of Stephany Flores Ramirez (21) to the authorities, the newspaper said today Trome. Therefore asked to provide security, he feels that they hate.

Too bad ass wipe Natalee & Stephany didn't was to die in the hands of a MONSTER but they did.

[Jo-An]

On CNN this week they talked about the hotel footage, and that the reporter saw the whole footage, including the part where Joran goes out for coffee, wearing the same clothes (white shirt) as he wore walking in with Stephany.
How come this footage was never shown to the public? I thought after they released the "missing" part where he fakes to have lost his key, they might release the final missing part as well...

[carpe noctem]

[San]

By the way, looks like more action in the K2 suit.  Not sure what this means but unlike HELI at RU I'm not going to assume it means an extension has been allowed.  There would be a judged order and I don't see that.  Anyway, I will watch for the actual docs:


06/10/2010 Order  (ORDER EXTENDING DEADLINE FOR PLNTFS' DEPO, OR ALLOWING THEM TO PROCEED IN ARUBA )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

06/10/2010 Ex-Parte Application (FOR ORDER EXTENDING DEADLINE FOR PLAINTIFF'S DEPOSITION )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

06/10/2010 Opposition Document
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

I believe you are correct, Klaas.  It's the Kalpoes whining and asking for more time and stalling again.  And Dr. Phil opposing giving they yet another delay.

Then the judge will have to rule on that.  I think they will get another DENIED!

If they are so worried about their reputations, maybe they shouldn't hang out with homicidal maniacs.  This latest from Joran can't help their case one bit.  And althugh it doesn't effect it directly, one has to consider that they were vountarily in the company of one of the most notorious killers in the world now.  Alleged.
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I hope the Judge rules right before July 4th.  This way the Kalpoes will get the message right before our holiday.

Even if the Kalpoes didn't murder Natalee they are in fact guilty of drugging, kidnap and rape.  They were present when Joran murdered her.

[carpe noctem]

 Anita and Valentijn should have shown respect to Stephany Flores and her  family by staying home instead of going out in public and partying.  JMHO

I would say they are dogs... but it would be an insult.

To canines the world over.

[klaasend]

On CNN this week they talked about the hotel footage, and that the reporter saw the whole footage, including the part where Joran goes out for coffee, wearing the same clothes (white shirt) as he wore walking in with Stephany.
How come this footage was never shown to the public? I thought after they released the "missing" part where he fakes to have lost his key, they might release the final missing part as well...

I think some of these reporters make stuff up.  I have found myself yelling at the TV more than once.

[cecilita]

On CNN this week they talked about the hotel footage, and that the reporter saw the whole footage, including the part where Joran goes out for coffee, wearing the same clothes (white shirt) as he wore walking in with Stephany.
How come this footage was never shown to the public? I thought after they released the "missing" part where he fakes to have lost his key, they might release the final missing part as well...

I believe the footage or reconstruction of what happen that day was canceled twice. Actually I don't know if they did it or not. But I watched a video where the reporter walks to a gas station is next to the hotel. others said that he bought coffee in Wong.

[Jo-An]

On CNN this week they talked about the hotel footage, and that the reporter saw the whole footage, including the part where Joran goes out for coffee, wearing the same clothes (white shirt) as he wore walking in with Stephany.
How come this footage was never shown to the public? I thought after they released the "missing" part where he fakes to have lost his key, they might release the final missing part as well...

I think some of these reporters make stuff up.  I have found myself yelling at the TV more than once.

*sigh* Yes it's very frustrating... You don't know who to believe anymore.

[klaasend]

http://story.argentinastar.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/c08dd24cec417021/id/646657/cs/1/

Van der Sloot agrees to reveal the burial place of Holloway in Aruba
Argentina Star
Saturday 12th June, 2010 

Joran Van der Sloot will tell authorities from Aruba where he buried Natallee Holloway's body, according to Peruvian officials.

Joran Van der Sloot, the Dutchman who has long been accused of murdering Natalee Holloway, has now indicated to Peruvian authorities that he will tell them where the body of the US teen is buried.

“Yes, Joran is ready to discuss this whenever officials from Aruba can come to Peru,” said General Cesar Guardia to US news provider ABC.

Guardia is in charge of the separate investigation of Van der Sloot’s role in the murder in Peru of another young woman, Stephany Flores Ramirez, who was 21 at the time.

While Van der Sloot has confessed to killing Ramirez in a fit of rage after she used his laptop without permission, he had long denied killing Holloway, who disappeared in Aruba in 2005.

He was arrested twice and spent three months in detention over the murder, but Van der Sloot, whose father is a prominent judge, was never charged for her murder.

The recent willingness to reveal where her body is buried will therefore come as a breakthrough in the case against him and provide closure to Holloway’s family.

Her disappearance in Aruba in 2005 created a media frenzy in the US, Europe and the Caribbean.


Read the comments - here is one..

By ibn , 06-12-10, 10:05 PM
i do belive mr van de slooty is in for a grand vacation in one of perus finest prisons, he just might live for a few months, then he will get sick from a small steel shiv. the sickness will be from complete loss of blood. i’d put money on it. you dont treat peoples daughters that way jek!!!

[Blonde]

Texasmom..
Too Much to repost...lol

When he told me about a nasty smell for about two weeks around the construction site of the Marriott

Does everyone remember this ?? It is one of the most important part of searching for a dead body.
The sense of smell.

I was under the impression that Searchers looked into this.

Just this

smell of decomposition in the waters


Here is something I found odd and interesting about a very foul smell right off the Mariott about 5 months after Natalee's disappearance. I FIRST POSTED THIS IN NOVEMBER 2005: regarding a smell of decomposition in the waters off of the beach at Marriott hotel, which a poster posted on TripAdvisor.
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This post on Trip Advisor referring to a very bad odor emitting from the waters in front of the Marriott:   

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g147247-i144-k355275-_Back_from_Aruba-l2179545-Aruba.html#2179545

[no rose colored glasses]

Somehow I must have missed this, why would Aruba host a film festival, and of all things a Bollywood night  LOL  Is Aruba the place too go to make low budget films?

AIFF - Aruba International Film Festival

Yes, Aruba has always been a low budget everything

June 9th at 7pm the premiere of the movie 3 Idiots, will not even comment.

[brerlee]

Just a thought, but I suddenly remembered that Beth had given Natalee  a number of one dollar bills for her Aruba trip. Does anyone remember how many? Was it 100 dollars worth?

The reason I'm asking is that Joran might have killed Stephany for her money, and I'm now wondering if money might have been a factor for Joran to target Natalee. Suppose, if Natalee had the dollar bills either rolled up together (in a gambler's roll) or in a billfold, and if Joran saw it when they were at the Casino, then Joran might have mistaken the bills to be a big wad of money (not realizing that they were all ones).

Then either Joran wanted to rob Natalee, or it is possible he could have exploded into violence when he found out he had drugged her for only a roll of ones.

Just something to maybe consider.

[klaasend]

Texasmom..
Too Much to repost...lol

When he told me about a nasty smell for about two weeks around the construction site of the Marriott

Does everyone remember this ?? It is one of the most important part of searching for a dead body.
The sense of smell.

I was under the impression that Searchers looked into this.

Just this

smell of decomposition in the waters


Here is something I found odd and interesting about a very foul smell right off the Mariott about 5 months after Natalee's disappearance. I FIRST POSTED THIS IN NOVEMBER 2005: regarding a smell of decomposition in the waters off of the beach at Marriott hotel, which a poster posted on TripAdvisor.
___________________________________________________

This post on Trip Advisor referring to a very bad odor emitting from the waters in front of the Marriott:   

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g147247-i144-k355275-_Back_from_Aruba-l2179545-Aruba.html#2179545

I remember Dave or Paul Reynolds checking that out.  I think it was closer to the Fishermans Huts.

[cecilita]

Just a thought, but I suddenly remembered that Beth had given Natalee  a number of one dollar bills for her Aruba trip. Does anyone remember how many? Was it 100 dollars worth?

The reason I'm asking is that Joran might have killed Stephany for her money, and I'm now wondering if money might have been a factor for Joran to target Natalee. Suppose, if Natalee had the dollar bills either rolled up together (in a gambler's roll) or in a billfold, and if Joran saw it when they were at the Casino, then Joran might have mistaken the bills to be a big wad of money (not realizing that they were all ones).

Then either Joran wanted to rob Natalee, or it is possible he could have exploded into violence when he found out he had drugged her for only a roll of ones.

Just something to maybe consider.

I didn't know that is legal in Aruba gambling being under age. At the time he had  money from his dad.

[Ono]

 Anita and Valentijn should have shown respect to Stephany Flores and her  family by staying home instead of going out in public and partying.  JMHO

That's what I think too.

[Ono]

Somehow I must have missed this, why would Aruba host a film festival, and of all things a Bollywood night  LOL  Is Aruba the place too go to make low budget films?

LOL-Good question!   And did you get a look at the "Golden Aruba" award they gave Richard Gere? lol
Maybe Klaas can find a picture-it was in the first batch she posted last night.

[Ono]

LOL

[brerlee]

Joran had money problems while in Peru, even though he just got ten thousand dollars in cash by extortion, and maybe another fifteen thousand dollars in the wire transfer (fraud), which I don't know if Joran was able to actually get that 15K.

So it's possible Joran is the type of lad that has always been looking for easy money, even when he was 17 years old. And a big roll of one dollar bills can look like a very pleasing amount of money to someone who doesn't realize that they are all ones.