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« Reply #320 on: June 12, 2010, 07:40:23 PM »


[/i]"I do not want to be imprisoned in Peru. I have fear to kill me, "sobbed the confessed murderer of Stephany Flores Ramirez (21) to the authorities, the newspaper said today Trome. Therefore asked to provide security, he feels that they hate.

Too bad ass wipe Natalee & Stephany didn't was to die in the hands of a MONSTER but they did.



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« Reply #321 on: June 12, 2010, 07:47:53 PM »

This may anger some -- but, I don't want Joran stepping one foot out of prison in Peru even if it was 100% guranteed it would bring Natalee home. He has to pay for Stephany.


That said, I think we will find Natalee without his help. Someone will finally spill the beans.


I completely agree with you, Wreck!  No interviews, no visits, no attention at all for that psycho murdering s.o.b.  Let him rot in the Peruvian prison.  I hope the judges do give him 35 years and if he lasts then we'll deal with him again when he gets out, until then he should cease to exist to the rest of the world.

There ARE others in (and from) Aruba that can tell the truth about Natalee and where she is.  Natalee deserves to come home to rest and her family deserves to know the truth. 

One of the cowards that was paid off or threatened or even volunteered to keep quiet all these years needs to finally grow a pair and step forward.

Clyde Burke - are you listening????


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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #322 on: June 12, 2010, 07:50:00 PM »

 Anita and Valentijn should have shown respect to Stephany Flores and her  family by staying home instead of going out in public and partying.  JMHO

I agree Muffy. But the Sloots don't respect anyone.  They think they are the superior ones.  Let's not forget they are mad at Peru for treating their son in such an inhumane way.

Go figure.
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« Reply #323 on: June 12, 2010, 07:50:17 PM »

 Anita and Valentijn should have shown respect to Stephany Flores and her  family by staying home instead of going out in public and partying.  JMHO

Muffy, you are so right.  I don't think Anita knows what it means to have respect for others and she certainly has not, as a parent, taught her children to have respect for others.

Part of me would like to feel a bit sorry for her, but I cannot.  I do not.  She sat on that talk show - Pauw and Witteman or whatever its called and insinuated that Natalee's family and friends bore some guilt/responsibility for Natalee's disappearance.

Anita has about 5 more days to publicly apologize to Beth and the Flores family specifically and the world in general for the monster she created, defended, and then set loose.  After that, she too should be held responsible.  I can't even imagine how awkward any room she entered over the past week must feel.


Tick tock, Anita.  Do something right, do it right now.  You still have Sebastian and it's possible you can still save him if you act now.

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« Reply #324 on: June 12, 2010, 07:51:29 PM »

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« Reply #325 on: June 12, 2010, 07:53:09 PM »

When Anita described Natalee's panties in front of Beth, that did it for me.  I don't feel one bit sorry for Anita. 
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« Reply #326 on: June 12, 2010, 07:54:19 PM »

A report is in on the confession. I posted this about 4 pages ago

In his testimony to police, the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (22) confessed to killing Flores Stephany Ramirez (21) after she saw an e-mail incriminating on the case Natalee Holloway .


http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fperu21.pe%2Fnoticia%2F493316%2Fvan-der-sloot-ya-esta-camino-penal&sl=es&tl=en




Go to this page and then click on read more and click on number 2..
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« Reply #327 on: June 12, 2010, 07:55:08 PM »

When Anita described Natalee's panties in front of Beth, that did it for me.  I don't feel one bit sorry for Anita. 

Greta wanted to crawl under a table, but then she was inclined not to!

Made me mad too.
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« Reply #328 on: June 12, 2010, 07:55:55 PM »

 Anita and Valentijn should have shown respect to Stephany Flores and her  family by staying home instead of going out in public and partying.  JMHO

Muffy, you are so right.  I don't think Anita knows what it means to have respect for others and she certainly has not, as a parent, taught her children to have respect for others.

Part of me would like to feel a bit sorry for her, but I cannot.  I do not.  She sat on that talk show - Pauw and Witteman or whatever its called and insinuated that Natalee's family and friends bore some guilt/responsibility for Natalee's disappearance.

Anita has about 5 more days to publicly apologize to Beth and the Flores family specifically and the world in general for the monster she created, defended, and then set loose.  After that, she too should be held responsible.  I can't even imagine how awkward any room she entered over the past week must feel.


Tick tock, Anita.  Do something right, do it right now.  You still have Sebastian and it's possible you can still save him if you act now.



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« Reply #329 on: June 12, 2010, 07:57:58 PM »

This is the article on the same page as the confession download...

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html

Papiamentu translation:

exclusivo: the confesion by joran v/d sloot

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saturday, 12 june 2010 19:01

for by we reportero marko espinoza at lima,peru 24ora.com owing to succeed attain the confesion can completo by joran v/d sloot where the declara by owing to kill the young peruvian stephany flores. the documento cu is 10 pagina largo, is company y have fingerprint by joran v/d sloot. one part interesting is the dilaster pagina where joran is declara by will colabora cu autoridadnan by aruba before indica where the curpa by natalee holloway is, owing to cambio the is desea by happen her time in gaol at aruba, country cu the is concidera her cas (home). click read more before attain the link before download the confesion can completo y give thou comentario.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #330 on: June 12, 2010, 07:59:46 PM »

And Anita had the wherewithall to get up and get a towel to mop up Paulus' sweat.

She wasn't even the least bit flustered.

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« Reply #331 on: June 12, 2010, 07:59:54 PM »

When Anita described Natalee's panties in front of Beth, that did it for me.  I don't feel one bit sorry for Anita. 

I remember Greta saying this on her show and she said she was mortified and wanted to crawl under the table.

Anita has no shame.  Only a sick person would do something like that.
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« Reply #332 on: June 12, 2010, 08:01:53 PM »

And Anita had the wherewithall to get up and get a towel to mop up Paulus' sweat.

She wasn't even the least bit flustered.


Disgusting.

I bet she has a lot less laundry since Paulus croaked.  Think of all the towels she saved.
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« Reply #333 on: June 12, 2010, 08:03:19 PM »

Joran van der Sloot very much loved by fellow inmates.

http://www.indedelta.nl/?p=572

LOL, Brandi posted a similar one yesterday! 

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« Reply #334 on: June 12, 2010, 08:03:38 PM »

A report is in on the confession. I posted this about 4 pages ago

In his testimony to police, the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (22) confessed to killing Flores Stephany Ramirez (21) after she saw an e-mail incriminating on the case Natalee Holloway .


http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fperu21.pe%2Fnoticia%2F493316%2Fvan-der-sloot-ya-esta-camino-penal&sl=es&tl=en




Go to this page and then click on read more and click on number 2..

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 In his testimony to police, the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (22) confessed to killing Flores Stephany Ramirez (21) after she saw an e-mail incriminating on the case Natalee Holloway .

En la manifestación del ciudadano extranjero en presencia de un abogado de oficio, un fiscal y un traductor, este reveló que conoció a la joven tres días antes del crimen y que el pasado domingo 30 se volvieron a encontrar en el casino Atlantic City de Miraflores. In the event of a foreign citizen in the presence of a lawyer, a prosecutor and a translator, this revealed that he met the girl three days before the murder on Sunday and 30 were found again in the casino Atlantic City of Miraflores.

De acuerdo al atestado, él y la joven se retiraron a las 05:30 horas del local y se dirigieron al hotel TAC -donde se hospedaba el holandés- porque a Stephany se le ocurrió jugar póker en Internet . According to official report, he and the young were removed at 05:30 hours local hotel and went to the TAC, where he was staying Dutchman "because he thought Stephany play poker online.

Cuando estaban en el cuarto, Van der Sloot, cuya pericia psicológica reveló que es psicótico y mentiroso , recibió en su laptop un correo que decía “te voy a matar mongolito” y que se trataba de la desaparición de la estadounidense Natalee Holloway en Aruba hace cinco años. When they were in the room, Van der Sloot, which disclosed that psychological expertise is psychotic and a liar , he received an email on his laptop saying "I'll kill mongolito" and that it was the disappearance of American Natalee Holloway in Aruba ago five years.

El holandés habló a Stephany sobre el caso y que hasta lo habían detenido. Stephany The Dutchman spoke about the case and had even stopped. Ella -según Joran- le dio un golpe en la cabeza con su puño y él le dio un codazo en el rostro, dejándola aturdida. She-as-Joran gave her a blow on the head with his fist and elbowed him in the face, leaving her stunned. “La tomé por el cuello y la estrangulé durante un minuto . "I took her by the neck and choked for a minute. Como aún se movia, me saqué la camisa y con ella le tapé la cara por varios minutos, hasta que quedó inmóvil”, contó el holandés a las autoridades. As yet moved, I took off my shirt and she covered my face for several minutes, until it was motionless, "the Dutchman told the authorities.

Después, Joran van de Sloot abandonó el hotel en la camioneta de Stephany, pero tras dejar el vehículo estacionado en Surco, abordó un taxi que lo llevó a Nasca (Ica) por 500 soles y otro rumbo a Arica (Chile), que le cobró US$ 1,500. Then Joran van de Sloot left the hotel at Stephany van, but after leaving the vehicle parked in Surco, boarded a taxi that took him to Nasca (Ica) for 500 soles and another way to Arica (Chile), which charged him $ 1,500.

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« Reply #335 on: June 12, 2010, 08:05:43 PM »

When Anita described Natalee's panties in front of Beth, that did it for me.  I don't feel one bit sorry for Anita. 

I remember Greta saying this on her show and she said she was mortified and wanted to crawl under the table.

Anita has no shame.  Only a sick person would do something like that.

She`s just jealous because her panties are big enough for two burly Romanian wrestlers to use as a sleeping bag.

To sleep, perchance to have a very bad dream. :0


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« Reply #336 on: June 12, 2010, 08:06:35 PM »

This is the article on the same page as the confession download...

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html

Papiamentu translation:

exclusivo: the confesion by joran v/d sloot

internacional

saturday, 12 june 2010 19:01

for by we reportero marko espinoza at lima,peru 24ora.com owing to succeed attain the confesion can completo by joran v/d sloot where the declara by owing to kill the young peruvian stephany flores. the documento cu is 10 pagina largo, is company y have fingerprint by joran v/d sloot. one part interesting is the dilaster pagina where joran is declara by will colabora cu autoridadnan by aruba before indica where the curpa by natalee holloway is, owing to cambio the is desea by happen her time in gaol at aruba, country cu the is concidera her cas (home). click read more before attain the link before download the confesion can completo y give thou comentario.



Pages 9 and 10 where he is mentioning the Holloway case:



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« Reply #337 on: June 12, 2010, 08:09:24 PM »

Somehow I must have missed this, why would Aruba host a film festival, and of all things a Bollywood night  LOL  Is Aruba the place too go to make low budget films?



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« Reply #338 on: June 12, 2010, 08:11:00 PM »

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In His Testimony to police, the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (22) confessed to killing Flores Stephany Ramirez (21) After she saw an e-mail incriminating on the Natalee Holloway case.

In the event of a foreign citizen in the presence of a lawyer, a prosecutor and a translator, this revealed that he met the girl three days before the murder on Sunday and 30 were found again in the Atlantic City casino de Miraflores. In the event of a U.S. foreign citizen in the Presence of a lawyer, a prosecutor and a translator, this Revealed That I met the girl three days before the murder on Sunday and 30 Were found again in the Atlantic City casino of Miraflores.

According to official report, he and the young were removed at 05:30 hours local hotel and went to the TAC, where he was staying Dutchman "because he thought Stephany play poker online. According To official report I Were removed and the young at 5:30 PM local hotel and went to the TAC, Where He Was Staying Dutchman "Because I Thought Stephany play poker online.

When they were in the room Van der Sloot, which disclosed that psychological expertise is psychotic and a liar, he received an email on his laptop saying "I'll kill mongolito" and that it was the disappearance of American Natalee Holloway in Aruba ago five years. When They Were in the room, Van der Sloot, Disclosed That Which Psychological expertise is psychotic and a liar, I Received an email on historical laptop saying "I'll kill mongolito" And That It Was the disappearance of American Natalee Holloway in Aruba ago five years.

Stephany The Dutchman spoke about the case and had even stopped. Stephany The Dutchman spoke about the case and HAD Even stopped. She-as-Joran gave her a blow on the head with his fist and elbowed him in the face, leaving her stunned. She-as-Joran Gave her a blow on the head With his fist and elbowed him in the face, Leaving her stunned. "I took her by the neck and choked for a minute. "I took her by the Choked and neck for a minute. As yet moved, I took off my shirt and she covered my face for several minutes, until it was motionless," the Dutchman told the authorities. Moved As yet, I took off my shirt and she Covered my face for Several minutes, Until It Was motionless, "the Dutchman Told the Authorities.

Then Joran van de Sloot left the hotel at Stephany van, but after leaving the vehicle parked in Surco, boarded a taxi that took him to Nasca (Ica) for 500 soles and another way to Arica (Chile), which charged him $ 1,500. Joran van de Sloot Then left the hotel at Stephany van, But After Leaving the vehicle parked in Surco, boarded a taxi That took him to Nasca (Ica) for 500 soles and Another Way to Arica (Chile), Which charged him $ 1,500.
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« Reply #339 on: June 12, 2010, 08:13:51 PM »

 Anita and Valentijn should have shown respect to Stephany Flores and her  family by staying home instead of going out in public and partying.  JMHO

I agree Muffy. But the Sloots don't respect anyone.  They think they are the superior ones.  Let's not forget they are mad at Peru for treating their son in such an inhumane way.

Go figure.

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