Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -6/14/10

[Anna]

She will need a bodyguard more than media representative.  These people are really in la-la land.

No kidding.  Who goes to visit their rotten murderer son in a South American prison and thinks, "damn, I better bring a media consultant"

It may take Anita being pelted with some of that  "mud" they were throwing at Joran for her to ever realize they are not seeking her autograph.  Easy to seefrom where a lot of Joran's problems arise. 

It's very likely she is already in a position of submitting to a cavity search if she ever wants to see her son again.  Maybe she is giving the situation a few days to cool down so she will be safer.  Good luck to her on that! 


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[Tamikosmom]

Media representative = Julia?  Who else would accompany Anita anywhere?

I can't think of many other possibilities.

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I asked that question too but someone, can't remember which poster, suggested Dilma?

Rene Gielen?

Good Morning All.

Janet
9:25 AM PT

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Pauw and Witteman
January 11, 2008 
 
(translated from Dutch)

Anita: I don't know, I have thought for a long time that she is alive, and there ahve been indications she is.  And those facts have to be investigated.  Rene Gielen on Curacao is making a documentary, she has interviewed a lot a people, we know because she's in contact with us.  I really would like for the other side of the story to also be investigated.

http://www.hollowaycase.com/archive/media/jorandevries.htm

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2767.msg370253;topicseen#msg370253

[canoworms]

ANNA!!
those AWFUL tickle sites! and the tacky photo albums! Tylenol days.

many wonderful researchers and posters on this page today, thank you all for your due diligence. I hope to contribute more as time goes on. I must now "clean my pole"...Cecelits what in the world do they mean by THAT?? lol
the truth is out there!
Selena

[jjayinthemorning]

Joran speaks spanish rather well.

[Northern Rose]

This may be the video.  It is 17 minutes long and looks to be a compilation of this last week.  I am at 7 minutes and there is footage on here I have not seen before

Click "Ver Video" beside:
La muerte de Stephany Flores

http://www.frecuencialatina.com.pe/reporte_semanal.php

Thanks! Watching now.

It is not the video the article was referencing, but it is a very good video.

[Northern Rose]

Joran van der Sloot Netherlands felt ill and depressed in his cell of the Miguel Castro Castro (WITH Booking Photo)

Lima (Peru.com) .- The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot felt unwell and has been insecure and depressed in his cell in the Miguel Castro Castro prison in San Juan de Lurigancho, where he was "received" by the Colombian hit man Trujillo Alejandro Ospina.
 
After being detained in the prison, the program 'Weekly Report' presented new images of the alien in the early days of his admission to his cell where he had to undergo a thorough medical checkup.
 
After arriving at the jail, van der Sloot tried oatmeal bread. Even on Saturday was served rice with chicken, he ate half. "He was given a mattress and slept on the floor," said an agent told the newspaper "El Comercio".
 
In this pavilion, isolated from the rest of the prison population, is neighboring the former mayor of Coronel Portillo, Luis Valdez Villacorta and Trujillo himself Ospina, perpetrator of the murder of the businessman Myriam Fefer.
 
As recalled, van der Sloot was detained in the prison after confessing that he killed the girl blows Stephany Flores Ramirez (21). Despite his statement to the police, has shown no remorse.

http://www.peru.com/noticias/portada20100613/102027/Holandes-Joran-van-der-Sloot-se-sintio-mal-y-esta-deprimido-en-su-celda-del-penal-Miguel-Castro-Castro?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WwwperucomRssHomeActualidad+%28www.peru.com%3A+RSS+Home+Actualidad%29&utm_content=Google+International

[canoworms]

thanks for the vid link NorthernRose. My Spanish is slowly coming back...muerte, mongolito, manana. It's all coming together
Selena

[Jo-An]

This may be the video.  It is 17 minutes long and looks to be a compilation of this last week.  I am at 7 minutes and there is footage on here I have not seen before

Click "Ver Video" beside:
La muerte de Stephany Flores

http://www.frecuencialatina.com.pe/reporte_semanal.php

Thanks! Watching now.

It is not the video the article was referencing, but it is a very good video.

True!

EURobert just posted the right video.

[Tamikosmom]

Media representative = Julia?  Who else would accompany Anita anywhere?

I can't think of many other possibilities.

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Anna - what are you referring to?  Which post/link?  TIA

No particular post.  I am replying to San pointing out that Anita is supposed to be going to Peru and taking a media representative instead of a lawyer.  I am speculating (see my ? mark) who this could be, Anita's media representative.  That's my guess as to who might go with her if it is oddly enough a media representative instead of an attorney to help Joran. 

Even his own mother is more concerned with PR than helping Joran.

Van der Sloot jailed on first-degree murder charge
The Associated Press
Friday Jun. 11, 2010 6:44 PM ET

Reached by the AP, Altez refused to discuss the case. He said Van der Sloot's schoolteacher mother, Anita, would be arriving early next week with the family's own media adviser.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/World/20100611/van-der-sloot-suspect-100611/

[klaasend]

Joran speaks spanish rather well.

For the last 5 years I remember it being said Joran speaks at least 4 languages.

Dutch
English
Spanish
Pap

[Ono]

Just realized who it is.....Greta and her cameraman, LOLOL  (j/k)

LOL

[canoworms]

si Klaas and I read that he is fluent in Castillian.

from wiki:The name castellano (Castilian), which refers directly to the origins of the language and the sociopolitical context in which it was introduced in the Americas, is preferred particularly in the Spanish regions where other languages are spoken (Catalonia, Basque Country, Valencian Community, Balearic Islands and Galicia) as well as in Argentina, Bolivia, Colombia, Chile, Paraguay, Peru, Uruguay and Venezuela, instead of español, which is more commonly used to refer to the language as a whole in the rest of Latin America and Spain.

There is some controversy in Spain about the name of the language, which is a part of a greater controversy about Catalan, Basque and Galician nationalisms.

[Northern Rose]

This may be the video.  It is 17 minutes long and looks to be a compilation of this last week.  I am at 7 minutes and there is footage on here I have not seen before

Click "Ver Video" beside:
La muerte de Stephany Flores

http://www.frecuencialatina.com.pe/reporte_semanal.php

Thanks! Watching now.

It is not the video the article was referencing, but it is a very good video.

True!

EURobert just posted the right video.

Just saw that.  Thank you EURobert.  What a nice sink he has in his room , retro malaria maybe.  I hope the rats come to visit him and his blankie at night to help clean those crusty drawers he is still wearing.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Yes... It's Jurine! And it's Castro Castro!

<a href="http://elcomercio.pe/player/494308" target="_blank">http://elcomercio.pe/player/494308</a>

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/494308/vea-primeros-minutos-joran-van-der-sloot-carcel

Bad boys bad boys
Watcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do
when they come for you
Bad boys, bad boys
Watcha gonna do, watcha gonna do
when they come for you

 Thanks ! That was great to watch~!

Hope someone can capture a still of him getting his MUGSHOT taken !!!   

[Angiex911dsptchr]

This may be the video.  It is 17 minutes long and looks to be a compilation of this last week.  I am at 7 minutes and there is footage on here I have not seen before

Click "Ver Video" beside:
La muerte de Stephany Flores

http://www.frecuencialatina.com.pe/reporte_semanal.php

Thanks! Watching now.

It is not the video the article was referencing, but it is a very good video.

True!

EURobert just posted the right video.

Just saw that.  Thank you EURobert.  What a nice sink he has in his room , retro malaria maybe.  I hope the rats come to visit him and his blankie at night to help clean those crusty drawers he is still wearing.

 LOL TY as well for your videos and articles!!
That sinks was enough to make me gag...  Eeekkkkkkkkk...

[MisGivings]

Anita writes a book about being strip searched in Peru


Julia being strip searched

[Northern Rose]

Stephany Flores confessed murderer, Joran van der Sloot is depressed and scared in prison (With Video)



pray van der Sloot's all not well in prison. The confessed murderer of Stephany Flores is depressed and scared and slept on a mattress on the floor during his first night at the Miguel Castro Castro prison in San Juan de Lurigancho.

"He does not talk much, he surprised and fearful note. You do not have access to anything, sure I thought I would reach a golden prison. No stage, so he slept on a mattress on the floor, "said one prison source.

Occupying one-man cell, the punishment was previously known as the "can" and is located in the area of prevention of the presidio. This area is not accessible by the prison director and actors who care Inpe the entrance door.

"It is isolated from the halls of" Roundabout. " Yesterday I had lunch dry breakfast oatmeal and chicken. He ate and eat the same as the prison workers as a precaution and so far not have access to the cauldron, "the source said.

Van der Sloot has neighbors Trujillo Hugo Ospina Colombian hit man, "Clown", the murderer of Miryam Fefer entrepreneur and former mayor of Coronel Portillo, Luis Valdez Villacorta.

    * Roberto Blades warned of the presence of Joran van der Sloot in Atlantic City casino de Miraflores (0374)
    * Joran Van der Sloot was detained at the Miguel Castro Castro (0374)
    * Wanted: Joran Van Der Sloot alleged murderer of the daughter of Ricardo Flores (0323)
    * Capture video of the miserable Dutchman Joran van der Sloot murderer in Chile (0261)
    * Netherlands Joran van der Sloot is now in custody of National Police of Peru (0097)
    * Video security cameras Hotel Miraflores TAC Stephany Flores and Joran Van der Sloot

http://www.tvo-peru.com/2010/06/asesino-confeso-de-stephany-flores-joran-van-der-sloot-esta-deprimido-y-asustado-en-prision/

[Anna]

I must admit that I am a little disappointed with Joran's cell.

I was hoping for much worse!  It's not nearly bad enough and they were treating him very civilly, like he is a human being or something.  He need in the beneral population rather quickly.  Note he says he is bad in the head.  Not a headache but just "bad"!

I hope things get a lot worse for him.  Although it does seem he has lost his appetite.

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[Jo-An]

Just watched that video of him in jail/his cell.
When they took the x-ray I only saw two lungs, not a heart... nor a brain!

[klaasend]

Thanks EURobert!

I uploaded the video of Joran arriving at Castro Castro to photobucket and I'm uploading also to Youtube.  Click on the photo below if you still need to see the video:



Here are a couple of screen caps: