Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -6/14/10

[canoworms]

thank you Ono
You are all wonderful sleuths- I missed the brain juice "fix" after leaving this forum and Riehl World after Katrina when my plate got a lot fuller and time to contribute got a lot leaner.
Many humble respects
Selena

[cw618]

thanks for the vid of J new hotel, and accommodations, J only deserves the best
as all the wolrd knows

at 1;17, you can see the cash and cards, ect. J had on him, that belonged
to Stephany, i think they are hers,and matbe some of his also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUNghjy9MF0&feature=player_embedded#!

[Bearlyhere]

Brandi - I thought it looked too much like yours

You have quite the eye, Klaas!

Let's see what they can do with this one:

You forgot the 'Mom' tatoo on his chest. 

...or his t-shirt saying 'My Mom partied with Richard Gere and all I got was this lousy blanket!'

[klaasend]

Per Steph Watts:

"Dave Holloway will be in Aruba later today."

http://stephww.wordpress.com/

Great!  Thanks Ono!

[Scatty]

This clip continues for a bit after the last one left off and the end of the physical in Castro Castro

http://www.youtube.com/user/PerucomPeru#p/a/u/0/GWjx5cT84DQ

[Edward]

mongolito means +++++ in spanish

[crazybabyborg]

Joran van der Sloot Netherlands felt ill and depressed in his cell of the Miguel Castro Castro (WITH Booking Photo)

Lima (Peru.com) .- The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot felt unwell and has been insecure and depressed in his cell in the Miguel Castro Castro prison in San Juan de Lurigancho, where he was "received" by the Colombian hit man Trujillo Alejandro Ospina.
After being detained in the prison, the program 'Weekly Report' presented new images of the alien in the early days of his admission to his cell where he had to undergo a thorough medical checkup.
 
After arriving at the jail, van der Sloot tried oatmeal bread. Even on Saturday was served rice with chicken, he ate half. "He was given a mattress and slept on the floor," said an agent told the newspaper "El Comercio".
 
In this pavilion, isolated from the rest of the prison population, is neighboring the former mayor of Coronel Portillo, Luis Valdez Villacorta and Trujillo himself Ospina, perpetrator of the murder of the businessman Myriam Fefer.
 
As recalled, van der Sloot was detained in the prison after confessing that he killed the girl blows Stephany Flores Ramirez (21). Despite his statement to the police, has shown no remorse.

http://www.peru.com/noticias/portada20100613/102027/Holandes-Joran-van-der-Sloot-se-sintio-mal-y-esta-deprimido-en-su-celda-del-penal-Miguel-Castro-Castro?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+WwwperucomRssHomeActualidad+%28www.peru.com%3A+RSS+Home+Actualidad%29&utm_content=Google+International

Uh. Okaaaaay. Does that mean Joran was on the receiving end????

Welcome to Castro Castro, Joran!

[klaasend]

mongolito means +++++ in spanish

That word has been blocked in the forum.  I know which word you are referring to though.  May be they mean it to be "not right in the head" or stupid?

[crazybabyborg]

You know I'm reading the latest from Foxnews:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/11/van-der-sloot-reveal-location-holloways-remains-transferred-aruban-prison/

Van Der Sloot Willing to Tell Where Holloway's Buried in Exchange for Transfer to Aruba


It would be nice if the prison officials would say to Joran "give us information that leads to the discovery of Natalee's body OR we will put you in general population immediately"

RIGHT ON THE MARK, KLAAS!!!! He's only holding that card because they haven't flipped it on him........yet!

[Ono]

I'm still behind but, like CBB, I think better as I type it out. LOL
So I've been trying to imagine the scenario after they get inside the room.
First off, I am leaning toward that she was not drugged (but that could change tomorrow).
Secondly I can't imagine Stephany leaving a casino to go play onine poker in a seedy hostel with some dude she met 2-3 days ago when she has no sexual intrest in him. I mean, she was just in a real casino. So I don't quite buy into that theory.
So the only one that makes sense at this time is that she loaned him money. Now she didn't have to loan it to him that night. We don't see it on the video so she could have lent it to him the night before and she's just now meeting back up with him and he's like "yeah I've got it in my room but sit down and play alittle first and then we'll go get it." It's also possible that we haven't seen all the tapes yet and that's why we dont see her loaning the money.
Ok, so she's going with him to get the money. They enter the room. It's 5am, she's only there to get the money and go home and go to bed. (Wasn't it said that she had already been out with her friends earlier and after leaving them she went to the casino? That could mean she only went to the casino to get her money from him, not to play. She did look alittle hesitant at the table, like she didn't want to sit down and play. But oh, what the hell, I guess I can play alittle) So they walk in, now she has no sexual intrest, and he knows he's not gonna pay her the money so he's stalling. He says oh have a seat, would you like a smoke (maybe weed) She prolly says I really should be going if you could just get the money.....and aftr his stalling tactics run out he hits her. I don't think they were in the room more than 10-15 minutes before he hits her.
Well, ok that's just what I'm thinking...subject to change lol!

This sounds very plausibl!  That's why he seemed to be on the lookout for her as she walked up extending his hand to her in greeting. 

[carpe noctem]

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You are next up on my wist you two wascally wittle dushi bags!

[Ono]

**plausible**

[AZSunny]

I am going to go clean my  bathroom sinks.  Not that they need it, but because I can!! 

 His sink is so disgusting?  Don't they at least pour bleach in it, or something?  Can you imagine the smell with the sink and the hole in the floor.   So gross!  Just what he deserves!

[Edward]

mongolito means +++++ in spanish

That word has been blocked in the forum.  I know which word you are referring to though.  May be they mean it to be "not right in the head" or stupid?

Mentally incapacitated.
Lack of mental capabilities.
What kids call each other as insult.

lol

Anyways..

I wonder who made such a threat ?

[crazybabyborg]

I am going to go clean my  bathroom sinks.  Not that they need it, but because I can!! 

 His sink is so disgusting?  Don't they at least pour bleach in it, or something?  Can you imagine the smell with the sink and the hole in the floor.   So gross!  Just what he deserves!

The smell should mingle nicely with his own body odor. Anybody know if/when he can shower? He doesn't look like he's had one so far! Ewwwww!

[Anna]

I am going to go clean my  bathroom sinks.  Not that they need it, but because I can!! 

 His sink is so disgusting?  Don't they at least pour bleach in it, or something?  Can you imagine the smell with the sink and the hole in the floor.   So gross!  Just what he deserves!

I was gratified when someone pointed out it doesn't have a faucet so no running water.

However, the rat and cockroach population must be totally insufficient if he slept on the floor.  I was hoping to see at least a couple scurrying about.

My guess on his claiming not to have eaten in two days is that his next ploy is going to be hunger strike or he will fake illness hoping to be taken to a hospital where he can escape.  I'd ignore him for about five days then force feed him with a tube.

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[NewfieMonkey]

I am going to go clean my  bathroom sinks.  Not that they need it, but because I can!! 

 His sink is so disgusting?  Don't they at least pour bleach in it, or something?  Can you imagine the smell with the sink and the hole in the floor.   So gross!  Just what he deserves!

They have those "holes" in China.  I was afraid I'd lose my balance and get my rear stuck in one!  I hope that happens to Monster! 

[carpe noctem]

I am going to go clean my  bathroom sinks.  Not that they need it, but because I can!! 

 His sink is so disgusting?  Don't they at least pour bleach in it, or something?  Can you imagine the smell with the sink and the hole in the floor.   So gross!  Just what he deserves!

The smell should mingle nicely with his own body odor. Anybody know if/when he can shower? He doesn't look like he's had one so far! Ewwwww!

They don`t get any... or a change of clothes.

He`s doomed to a life of fartitude!!!!

[wingnut]

Brandi - I thought it looked too much like yours

You have quite the eye, Klaas!

Let's see what they can do with this one:

You forgot the 'Mom' tatoo on his chest. 

...or his t-shirt saying 'My Mom partied with Richard Gere and all I got was this lousy blanket!'

[crazybabyborg]

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You are next up on my wist you two wascally wittle dushi bags!

If they're watching this, and I'd bet they are, they will never, ever, step foot off FUBARUBA! It's the only place on earth where they can do what they've done and still have a clean sink.