Natalee Case Discussion #838 6/12/10 -6/14/10

[Tylergal]

Thank you Klaas, this is Selena but I couldn't get in under my old name and I tried to register under this one but never got back an email. I didn't know if you had recieved the request.

After I reregistered under THESelena in an attempt to get my name back I did receive an email for that name and this is why I sent an additional email to you.
So here I am as canoworms. How appropriate in light of all the recent developments and horrific tragedy in Peru, not to be taken lightly.

A big Shout Out to all of my former researchers and friends on SM. Anna, I never forgot you, and the many others.
Let's settle this once and for all and tie up the loose ends!

canowormsAKA: Selena

Selena, I know that Anna and I are delighted to see you here!!! We miss you like everything!!!!

[Ono]

thank you Ono
You are all wonderful sleuths- I missed the brain juice "fix" after leaving this forum and Riehl World after Katrina when my plate got a lot fuller and time to contribute got a lot leaner.
Many humble respects
Selena

Thank you! ~

[EURobert]

Joran has no appetite and is nervous

Joran van der Sloot is nervous, depressed and eats little. That is what people of the Peruvian police reported. He refuses to sleep on a mattress that the guards have given him, and spends his nights on the cold ground.

Joran seems to have lost his characteristic arrogance in the cell. According to police he was afraid to be killed in prison in Lima where he will soon go live. Van der Sloot has offered to tell where the body of Natalee Holloway is, in exchange for a transfer to Aruba.

The Peruvian government has not troubled to extradite Joran. He will have to serve his sentence there first, according to the Peruvians.

http://tinyurl.com/267zuw5

[TURBOTHINK]

Youtube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-H_18WqdLo

ROFL !! I loved the end of it where they showed his little "Vienna wienie"

[TURBOTHINK]

Joran has no appetite and is nervous

Joran van der Sloot is nervous, depressed and eats little. That is what people of the Peruvian police reported. He refuses to sleep on a mattress that the guards have given him, and spends his nights on the cold ground.

Joran seems to have lost his characteristic arrogance in the cell. According to police he was afraid to be killed in prison in Lima where he will soon go live. Van der Sloot has offered to tell where the body of Natalee Holloway is, in exchange for a transfer to Aruba.

The Peruvian government has not troubled to extradite Joran. He will have to serve his sentence there first, according to the Peruvians.

http://tinyurl.com/267zuw5

I LOVE IT !!

[carpe noctem]

Joran has no appetite and is nervous

Joran van der Sloot is nervous, depressed and eats little. That is what people of the Peruvian police reported. He refuses to sleep on a mattress that the guards have given him, and spends his nights on the cold ground.

Joran seems to have lost his characteristic arrogance in the cell. According to police he was afraid to be killed in prison in Lima where he will soon go live. Van der Sloot has offered to tell where the body of Natalee Holloway is, in exchange for a transfer to Aruba.

The Peruvian government has not troubled to extradite Joran. He will have to serve his sentence there first, according to the Peruvians.

http://tinyurl.com/267zuw5

I LOVE IT !!

I can see he hasn`t been broken yet... but it will come.

[Ono]

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You are next up on my wist you two wascally wittle dushi bags!

If they're watching this, and I'd bet they are, they will never, ever, step foot off FUBARUBA! It's the only place on earth where they can do what they've done and still have a clean sink.

LOL

[NewfieMonkey]

I was hoping for a broken and crying like a baby JVDS.  He seems so smug and calm as they take him into the prison and his cell.  Guess it takes nerves of steel to be a psychopathic killer.

Wish they had a cell cam.

[TURBOTHINK]

There is lots of fear in those eyes.

Mommie....I sh&*)t myself......AGAIN  lol  

Actually , I don't see fear in his eyes..I see the eyes of a madman murderer.  Those are the last eyes Stephany and Natalee saw..they must have been terrified.

That was the first thing I noticed in that video was the evil in the eyes. Those eyes are the same eyes as Charles Manson. I also noticed the same eyes in videos of his "cell mate." This should be interesting because a stronger evil will always kill the weaker evil.

[Jesdamala]

thank you Ono
You are all wonderful sleuths- I missed the brain juice "fix" after leaving this forum and Riehl World after Katrina when my plate got a lot fuller and time to contribute got a lot leaner.
Many humble respects
Selena

Thank you! ~

I am remembering long ago when there was a writer, not poster, to Riehl World View, and cannot remember the name, who had all kinds of wierd and more, she was in a barrel of concrete, whatever...and then he, the writer, decided to give it up, it was not worthy.  I am being vague here, as I don't remember.  He was weird, the writer.  Anybody remember him?
Wonder what he is thinking now.  He had wild speculation then. 

[Northern Rose]

See the first minutes of Joran van der Sloot in jail


Trujillo Ospina Colombian hit man, alleged murderer of Myriam Fefer, tried to visit him in his cell, measuring three by two feet. Do not eat and sleep on the floor


The Dutchman citizen Joran van der Sloot was transferred last Friday to the maximum security prison Miguel Castro Castro, after confessing that he murdered the young Peruvian Stephany Flores on May 30.

The chambers of "Weekly Report" reported the income of the European detention center. Flanked by several prison guards and accompanied by the head of the National Penitentiary Institute (INPE), Ruben Rodriguez Rabanal, Van der Sloot was brought to his personal cell.

The murderer confessed cell measuring three by eight feet, with a laundry, a silo and a mattress, although he preferred to sleep on the floor. It was reviewed by doctors at INPE. Your card number is 326 390. You can speak Spanish and does not need a translator.

"I am suspected of murder," he told reporters when asked about the program. After he refused to answer more questions.

WITH SICARIO
In one image, we see that the Trujillo Alejandro Ospina Colombian hit man, alleged murderer of Jewish businesswoman Myriam Fefer, enters the cell of Joran van der Sloot. Immediately, Trujillo Ospina was whisked away.

http://top-mundo.blogspot.com/2010/06/vea-los-primeros-minutos-de-joran-van.html

[canoworms]

Edward.
I think this may be a clue. Joran left Aruba to railbird at a Million dollar prize poker tournament. So we heard.
Maybe it was publicized through this casino which is the only casino I see listed in Aruba as featuring Texas hold em/
surely you remember this place...Atlantic City has such a nice American sounding name...

 Excelsior Casino
Holiday Inn
J. E. Irausquin Boulevard 85
Tel: +(297) 5867 777
Fax: +(297) 5865 165
   American Roulette (5 tables) - Blackjack (9 tables) - Caribbean Stud Poker (9 tables) - Craps (1 table) - Let it Ride - Poker (7 tables) - Roulette - Seven Card Stud Poker - Texas Hold'em - Bingo (100 seats) - 21 Superbucks - Slot Machines (257 machines)

I'm going to poke my nose further to see if there is a publication that goes around that lists the big prize tournaments
 it was not actually 1 mill but 930,000 prize....but another " coincidence" is that Elton Garcia is Albanian, naturalized uruguayan but looks Italian...according to video report. This makes me tingle...the new "group" coming out of Toronto ( big names involved in the same things they were involved in in Aruba ) are Albanian, Serbian, and Bosnian.

Toronto...Aruba...Chicago...sounding familiar?
Selena

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You are next up on my wist you two wascally wittle dushi bags!

If they're watching this, and I'd bet they are, they will never, ever, step foot off FUBARUBA! It's the only place on earth where they can do what they've done and still have a clean sink.

.
LOL

I don't think the are safe there. What you are looking at in these pictures are "marked men" - there will be "people" on that island looking for them to get the truth. Peruvians are notorious for having LONG REACHES.

[Tylergal]

When they asked for his occupation he replied "I have a business", not sure what he thinks he will accomplish by lieing in jail but the correct answer is "I am a psychopathic murderer of young woman".   

It appears that is his only business that has profited him and his family, the murder of young women and hustling the deceased's parents.

[canoworms]

TYLER!!!
This is like High School class reunion. I feel like a kid again...lol.

JESDEMALA...I hope it wasn't me. lol

[TURBOTHINK]

See the first minutes of Joran van der Sloot in jail


Trujillo Ospina Colombian hit man, alleged murderer of Myriam Fefer, tried to visit him in his cell, measuring three by two feet. Do not eat and sleep on the floor
(snipped)

http://top-mundo.blogspot.com/2010/06/vea-los-primeros-minutos-de-joran-van.html

In that size cell the reason he won't sleep on the mattress is because someone could get a hold of him. He is sleeping on the floor most likely in a fetal position so the prisoners can't REACH him.

[EURobert]

Telegraaf

Van der Sloot was nervous and eats little

LIMA - Joran van der Sloot was nervous and depressed and eats little. He sleeps on the floor, while the prison guards gave him a mattress. That have sources in the Peruvian newspaper El Comercio against the police said.

Van der Sloot has put aside his arrogance, said police sources. Peruvian media had earlier reported that Van der Sloot is afraid of Miguel Castro Castro prison in Lima, Peru in murdered. That showed a police spokeswoman as speculation of the hand. However she confirmed that his offer to say where the body of Natalee Holloway, in exchange for transfer to Aruba.

Peruvian President Alan Garcia has said Van der Sloot to no country to deliver his sentence until he has served in Peru. Van der Sloot has been charged with premeditated murder in the Peruvian Stephany Flores. He has confessed. In the Castro Castro prison, awaits his trial off.

http://tinyurl.com/36ot9uv

[spooky112483]

I don't know how everybody else feels about it, but I know this.  IF strings get pulled that prevent Joran Van der Sloot from serving his sentence in PERU, where he belongs IMO; it will only FURTHER convince me that strings were being pulled all along for him in the HAGUE...and I'm going to be VERY EXTREMELY DISGUSTED!

I can't help but BELIEVE that he was tipped off in Aruba...AND HE RAN...WHY he chose Lima, Peru I do not know.  But he obviously didn't have money to establish himself there, if that would have even been allowed.  Yes, he should have had money...he'd just been paid $25,000 for another story...but HE KNEW THAT when he did it.  Did he think he was just going to laugh in the family's face again?  I think he had major gambling debts and/or drug debts that he had to pay and that took a good chunk of the money, JMO.  So what was the plan?  How long could he have stayed in Lima before he would have had to move on?  Did he plan to live off those he could drug and steal from to survive?  Surely he didn't think his "friends" could continue to Western Union funds to him to keep him on the lam forever? 

That's just some of the questions I have...that I'll probably never know the answer to. 

Just a lazy Sunday here, hope everyone is well today. Still catching up, ya'll are discussing Renho and what her motive for butt-kissing Joran could possibly be. Well I believe she is the one who tipped off Joran. Do you think maybe he paid her for that tipoff? I always assumed Renho was just loyal to Anita but now that Anita has seemingly cut Joran off why has Renho continued to support him? If he got $25,000 maybe he paid her $5,000 or $10,000? There's just no other excuse for her unless she's being paid and I doubt the family is paying her anymore at this point so maybe Joran did and that's where some of that money went? Oh here's a thought if that is true...and the FBI can trace those funds....heeheeheehee!!! Wouldnt that be just lovely!
Also TM you mention the Hague and I agree. I felt they were pulling stings then and wouldn't be surprised to learn they are still trying to. Wonder if they told Joran 'dont go back to Thailand, that is too hot, and looks really bad. Go somewhere else. Leave Aruba and dont come here either.' ? And since he has lots of friends in S America maybe that's how he ended up in Lima?

[cece]

Joran has no appetite and is nervous

Joran van der Sloot is nervous, depressed and eats little. That is what people of the Peruvian police reported. He refuses to sleep on a mattress that the guards have given him, and spends his nights on the cold ground.

Joran seems to have lost his characteristic arrogance in the cell. According to police he was afraid to be killed in prison in Lima where he will soon go live. Van der Sloot has offered to tell where the body of Natalee Holloway is, in exchange for a transfer to Aruba.

The Peruvian government has not troubled to extradite Joran. He will have to serve his sentence there first, according to the Peruvians.

http://tinyurl.com/267zuw5

Thank you EURobert.

Wait till he sees what is on that floor with him!

[EURobert]

Joran has no appetite and is nervous

Joran van der Sloot is nervous, depressed and eats little. That is what people of the Peruvian police reported. He refuses to sleep on a mattress that the guards have given him, and spends his nights on the cold ground.

Joran seems to have lost his characteristic arrogance in the cell. According to police he was afraid to be killed in prison in Lima where he will soon go live. Van der Sloot has offered to tell where the body of Natalee Holloway is, in exchange for a transfer to Aruba.

The Peruvian government has not troubled to extradite Joran. He will have to serve his sentence there first, according to the Peruvians.

http://tinyurl.com/267zuw5

Thank you EURobert.

Wait till he sees what is on that floor with him!

He won't have to feel lonely!