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« Reply #300 on: June 12, 2010, 07:15:03 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html

It says you can download Joran's confession here, but it doesn't work for me.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #301 on: June 12, 2010, 07:16:58 PM »

Mama di Joran Van Der Sloot na ta Aruba, no na Peru

Publication: Diasabra, 12 Juni 2010. Categoria: General

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RANJESTAD (AAN):  Tur hende ta kere cu Anita van der Sloot, mama di Joran, ta na Peru na e momentonan aki pa atende cu e situacion di su yiu homber mayor.

   Esaki no ta e caso.   DIARIO a constata cu Anita van der Sloot ta na Aruba y diahuebs anochi por a mire den Ballroom di Marriot Hotel durante e Bollywood Night, cual tabata un fiesta special organiza den cuadro di e Aruba International Film Festival.

    Anita van der Sloot tabata acompaña pa su otro dos yiu y tabata cana normal entre esnan presente.

   Loke tambe por a ripara ta cu practicamente prensa presente a acerca Anita pa puntre riba e situacion di su yiu Joran cual ta noticia tur dia na nivel local como internacional.

   Den medionan stranhero, corant, radio y television tur dia tin “breaking news” relaciona cu e caso di Joran van der Sloot.  Sinembargo, e hecho cu Anita van der Sloot ta na Aruba y no na Peru por ta un indicacion cu e famia mes a dicidi di cera nan curazon apesar di tur locual ta pasando rond di nan.

   Loke a pasa cu Natalee Holloway y loke a pasa na Peru ta mucho hopi.  Ta yega un momento cu un famia cu a pasa loke e famia aki a pasa den e ultimo cinco añanan, cu nan mester para fuerte riba nan zapato pa sigui cu nan bida.   Joran a scoge su destino y esey ta algo cu nan mes no por a dicidi riba dje.

   Tin indicacion si cu prensa stranhero, esnan cu ta cubriendo e caso aki y cu ta na Aruba, ta busca manera pa haya Anita van der Sloot su declaracion pero nan no kier papia nada.  E hecho cu Sra. Van der Sloot no a bay Peru tambe por ta tin di haber cu e no kier bay expone su mes na opinion publico internacional y na e presion cu esaki lo nifica pe.

   Riba potret por aprecia Anita van der Sloot kende tabata presente durante e Bollywood Night den compania di su yiunan.

http://www.diario.aw/2010/06/mama-di-joran-van-der-sloot-na-ta-aruba-no-na-peru/

I suspect that Anita is nearing a breakdown.  The above image tells me that she no longer has the strength to uphold her diabolical son.  The five year  facade is about to end and ... it was all for naught.

Anita was never in denial.  It was all about "protecting" Joran from the consequences of his actions.  To H--- with Natalee.  To H---- with Natalee's family.

Five years ago ... if the entire ugly truth had been forthcoming ... as a minor the consequences would have been dealt with by now ... lessons regarding accountability would have been learn ... justice would have prevailed for Natalee ... a family would have been afforded a measure of closure as their loved one rested on American soil and ... the Natalee Holloway story would now be a distance memory.

Anita ... you blew it big time.  I pity you.

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« Reply #302 on: June 12, 2010, 07:17:23 PM »

Just a thought, but I suddenly remembered that Beth had given Natalee  a number of one dollar bills for her Aruba trip. Does anyone remember how many? Was it 100 dollars worth?

The reason I'm asking is that Joran might have killed Stephany for her money, and I'm now wondering if money might have been a factor for Joran to target Natalee. Suppose, if Natalee had the dollar bills either rolled up together (in a gambler's roll) or in a billfold, and if Joran saw it when they were at the Casino, then Joran might have mistaken the bills to be a big wad of money (not realizing that they were all ones).

Then either Joran wanted to rob Natalee, or it is possible he could have exploded into violence when he found out he had drugged her for only a roll of ones.

Just something to maybe consider.

Good points.

I believe:

Natalee -

1st intention was sex. Wanted to have a little video to upload to his sadistic website and maybe make some money off it, after.

Stephany -

Money - he was at the end of his rope.

1. Lust
2. Greed

Hang him, Peru.
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« Reply #303 on: June 12, 2010, 07:17:42 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html

It says you can download Joran's confession here, but it doesn't work for me.

It's 10 pages, PDF and it's working for me.  When I'm done I'll put in images and post.
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« Reply #304 on: June 12, 2010, 07:19:13 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html

It says you can download Joran's confession here, but it doesn't work for me.

It's 10 pages, PDF and it's working for me.  When I'm done I'll put in images and post.

Thanks, Klaas. 
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« Reply #305 on: June 12, 2010, 07:19:21 PM »

This may anger some -- but, I don't want Joran stepping one foot out of prison in Peru even if it was 100% guranteed it would bring Natalee home. He has to pay for Stephany.


That said, I think we will find Natalee without his help. Someone will finally spill the beans.


I completely agree with you, Wreck!  No interviews, no visits, no attention at all for that psycho murdering s.o.b.  Let him rot in the Peruvian prison.  I hope the judges do give him 35 years and if he lasts then we'll deal with him again when he gets out, until then he should cease to exist to the rest of the world.

There ARE others in (and from) Aruba that can tell the truth about Natalee and where she is.  Natalee deserves to come home to rest and her family deserves to know the truth. 

One of the cowards that was paid off or threatened or even volunteered to keep quiet all these years needs to finally grow a pair and step forward.

Clyde Burke - are you listening????
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« Reply #306 on: June 12, 2010, 07:19:27 PM »

This may anger some -- but, I don't want Joran stepping one foot out of prison in Peru even if it was 100% guranteed it would bring Natalee home. He has to pay for Stephany.


That said, I think we will find Natalee without his help. Someone will finally spill the beans.

Wreck ... I agree 100%.

I have prayed that Aruban justice would prevail for Natalee.  I have prayed that Natalee's parents would be afforded the opportunity to bring their precious dauther home.  However ... the writing is on the wall in regards to an early release if allowed to serve his time in Aruba/Holland ... an early release which would put other Stephanys and Natalees at risk.

Janet
 

I agree 100 percent with you.I hope Joran stays right where he is.Locked away and not hurting anyone else...
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« Reply #307 on: June 12, 2010, 07:20:53 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html

It says you can download Joran's confession here, but it doesn't work for me.

JA

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http://www.24ora.com/images/stories/news/2010/juni/juni12/confecionjoranperu.pdf
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« Reply #308 on: June 12, 2010, 07:23:32 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html

It says you can download Joran's confession here, but it doesn't work for me.

It's 10 pages, PDF and it's working for me.  When I'm done I'll put in images and post.

Try clicking on this link


Joran vdSloot Peru Confession
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« Reply #309 on: June 12, 2010, 07:25:23 PM »

Hopefully someone that understands Spanish can tell us if anything new in it
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« Reply #310 on: June 12, 2010, 07:26:13 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/internacional-mainmenu-6/18622-lesa-e-confesion-di-joran-vd-sloot.html

It says you can download Joran's confession here, but it doesn't work for me.

It's 10 pages, PDF and it's working for me.  When I'm done I'll put in images and post.

Yes, it's working for me too now.  Thanks for posting it for us!
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #311 on: June 12, 2010, 07:26:53 PM »




Perhaps Anita is just a little slut that has been asking for it?

What say you?
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« Reply #312 on: June 12, 2010, 07:27:30 PM »

Mama di Joran Van Der Sloot na ta Aruba, no na Peru

Publication: Diasabra, 12 Juni 2010. Categoria: General

Contrario na loke mayoria hende ta pensa



RANJESTAD (AAN):  Tur hende ta kere cu Anita van der Sloot, mama di Joran, ta na Peru na e momentonan aki pa atende cu e situacion di su yiu homber mayor.

   Esaki no ta e caso.   DIARIO a constata cu Anita van der Sloot ta na Aruba y diahuebs anochi por a mire den Ballroom di Marriot Hotel durante e Bollywood Night, cual tabata un fiesta special organiza den cuadro di e Aruba International Film Festival.

    Anita van der Sloot tabata acompaña pa su otro dos yiu y tabata cana normal entre esnan presente.

   Loke tambe por a ripara ta cu practicamente prensa presente a acerca Anita pa puntre riba e situacion di su yiu Joran cual ta noticia tur dia na nivel local como internacional.

   Den medionan stranhero, corant, radio y television tur dia tin “breaking news” relaciona cu e caso di Joran van der Sloot.  Sinembargo, e hecho cu Anita van der Sloot ta na Aruba y no na Peru por ta un indicacion cu e famia mes a dicidi di cera nan curazon apesar di tur locual ta pasando rond di nan.

   Loke a pasa cu Natalee Holloway y loke a pasa na Peru ta mucho hopi.  Ta yega un momento cu un famia cu a pasa loke e famia aki a pasa den e ultimo cinco añanan, cu nan mester para fuerte riba nan zapato pa sigui cu nan bida.   Joran a scoge su destino y esey ta algo cu nan mes no por a dicidi riba dje.

   Tin indicacion si cu prensa stranhero, esnan cu ta cubriendo e caso aki y cu ta na Aruba, ta busca manera pa haya Anita van der Sloot su declaracion pero nan no kier papia nada.  E hecho cu Sra. Van der Sloot no a bay Peru tambe por ta tin di haber cu e no kier bay expone su mes na opinion publico internacional y na e presion cu esaki lo nifica pe.

   Riba potret por aprecia Anita van der Sloot kende tabata presente durante e Bollywood Night den compania di su yiunan.

http://www.diario.aw/2010/06/mama-di-joran-van-der-sloot-na-ta-aruba-no-na-peru/

I suspect that Anita is nearing a breakdown.  The above image tells me that she no longer has the strength to uphold her diabolical son.  The five year  facade is about to end and ... it was all for naught.

Anita was never in denial.  It was all about "protecting" Joran from the consequences of his actions.  To H--- with Natalee.  To H---- with Natalee's family.

Five years ago ... if the entire ugly truth had been forthcoming ... as a minor the consequences would have been dealt with by now ... lessons regarding accountability would have been learn ... justice would have prevailed for Natalee ... a family would have been afforded a measure of closure as their loved one rested on American soil and ... the Natalee Holloway story would now be a distance memory.

Anita ... you blew it big time.  I pity you.

Janet


Janet, you have so nailed it!  Maybe someone told her to 'act normally', after all Joran has denied his involvement in Stephany's murder, then cried out how he was 'forced' into confession, without legal support, etc., etc., then trying to negotiate giving up Natalee's burial place for consideration from NL and Aruba to get him back.   Maybe she believes it, maybe ?????????  Her 'love' is blind, regardless. 
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« Reply #313 on: June 12, 2010, 07:27:52 PM »

Hopefully someone that understands Spanish can tell us if anything new in it

OH!  The confession is in Spanish.  It is all Dutch to me.

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« Reply #314 on: June 12, 2010, 07:28:42 PM »

Janet, thank you for answering my post earlier.
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« Reply #315 on: June 12, 2010, 07:29:46 PM »




Perhaps Anita is just a little slut that has been asking for it?

What say you?

Touche.
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« Reply #316 on: June 12, 2010, 07:30:53 PM »

Someone needs a better fax machine or scanner. That`s pitiful.

They might have well send those docs by donkey.
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« Reply #317 on: June 12, 2010, 07:32:25 PM »

Janet, thank you for answering my post earlier.

You are welcome Maggie.

Janet

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« Reply #318 on: June 12, 2010, 07:35:34 PM »

Someone needs a better fax machine or scanner. That`s pitiful.

They might have well send those docs by donkey.

LOL, I was thinking the same...
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #319 on: June 12, 2010, 07:36:40 PM »




Perhaps Anita is just a little slut that has been asking for it?

What say you?

Touche.
The picture of anita crying made me sad. Is she crying because she lost money in the casino?
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